# Fibaro dimmer and roller shutter - Association **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Created:** [September 18, 2022, 8:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/fibaro-dimmer-and-roller-shutter-association/69091 "2022-09-18T20:06:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tds](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tds/32/13157_2.png) [@Tds](https://community.homey.app/u/Tds)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 8:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/fibaro-dimmer-and-roller-shutter-association/69091/1 "2022-09-18T20:06:41Z")
Hi I can’t get the fibaro dimmer 2 to associate with the roller shutter 3. I believe I do it correct, Homey recognize the button presses but the roller shutter does not move. The roller shutter moves from mobile app. Roller shutter 3 ![Screenshot_20220918_220339_app.homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/c/4/c49e9a4ceaa3c9a027db7d5c1b5dd319021be7fd.jpeg) Dimmer 2: ![Screenshot_20220918_220711_app.homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/8/7/8761e516a8b3b2bb9206515587b7d3a2fc7c5090.jpeg) Any help is much appreciated ---
**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 6:35am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/fibaro-dimmer-and-roller-shutter-association/69091/2 "2022-09-19T06:35:41Z")
My knowledge of associations is not the best. But as far as I know, you have to use group 3 or 5 for the roller shutter. Group 2 and 4 can only be used for basic functions like “on/off”. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/8/4/845ff411f91ce3b9aacea963e63d13174c15757a.jpeg) Also, both devices must be included with the **same security standard** , which is not the case here. ---
**Author:** ![Tds](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tds/32/13157_2.png) [@Tds](https://community.homey.app/u/Tds)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 6:55am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/fibaro-dimmer-and-roller-shutter-association/69091/3 "2022-09-19T06:55:26Z")
Thanks a lot for your your feedback. Ill give it a new shot. Regards security, I was aware of that, but i read in the manual that the dimmer will send secure for group 2 to 5 (parameter 27). I ser that the roller shutter is S2 included. Are the not on the same security then? ---
**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 12:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/fibaro-dimmer-and-roller-shutter-association/69091/4 "2022-09-19T12:41:55Z")
The dimmer 2 is included unsecure: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/e/b/eb4ec27abe676732fa9585911c919d0395e8e08d.png) And the RS3 is included with S2 (Authenticated): ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/8/5/85305ea77762244abc716a4c5a8f58772a730ff9.png) So they are not with the same security standard included. For more information please read the following threads: > [@\[REQUEST\] User selectable Z-wave security levels in order for associations to work](https://community.homey.app/t/request-user-selectable-z-wave-security-levels-in-order-for-associations-to-work/49925): > > Z-wave associations are a very important feature for 2 main reasons: Buttons can send commands directly to light bulbs, so if Homey isn’t working the lights can still be controlled. Dimming works way better using buttons (e.g. by long press).Gradual dimming using flows is slow, uneven and unresponsive, and/or Homey disables the flow for firing too often. Also, currently zigbee has no good working alternative that Homey supports and works for all zigbee devices. As of version 7.0, Homey suppo… > [@\[APP\]\[Pro\] UnZ-Cure (add z-wave devices unsecure)](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-unz-cure-add-z-wave-devices-unsecure/55597): > > Add Z-wave devices unsecure Z-wave associations are a very important. The main reason is that if Homey isn’t working for some reason, the lights can still be controlled. As of version 7.0, Homey supports more z-wave security levels. That is great for locks and such, but not so much for z-wave associations, because associations need the same security level for both associated devices in order to work. As not all devices support the same security level, and Homey picks the security level based … ---
**Author:** ![Tds](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tds/32/13157_2.png) [@Tds](https://community.homey.app/u/Tds)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 8:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/fibaro-dimmer-and-roller-shutter-association/69091/5 "2022-09-20T20:08:03Z")
Thanks for reply and pointing me in the right direct ion. Yes, working now. The solution was to include the roller shutter as non secure. Standard inclusion for the dimmer, but send non secure for the groups used by roller shutter. ---
**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 12:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/fibaro-dimmer-and-roller-shutter-association/69091/6 "2024-04-24T12:32:40Z")
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**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 12:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/fibaro-dimmer-and-roller-shutter-association/69091/7 "2024-04-24T12:32:46Z")
> Please use the Fibaro main topic for problems with Fibaro devices or the Homey Fibaro app: > [[APP] Fibaro - Your home is your castle (by Athom)](https://community.homey.app/t/app-fibaro-your-home-is-your-castle-by-athom/362) > > For this reason this topic has been closed.