# Fibaro App, going from Alpha to Beta lost all devices

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/fibaro-app-going-from-alpha-to-beta-lost-all-devices/16819>\
**Category:** Apps\
**Created:** [August 13, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/fibaro-app-going-from-alpha-to-beta-lost-all-devices/16819 "2019-08-13T15:35:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Borgen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/borgen/32/12762_2.png) [@Borgen](https://community.homey.app/u/Borgen)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/fibaro-app-going-from-alpha-to-beta-lost-all-devices/16819/1 "2019-08-13T15:35:19Z")

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Participating in the Alpha test and had version .39 installed, then they released a new beta .41 and installed that.

But then lost all Fibaro devices, they are still visible in the Developer view but as “unknown” but in the App they are all gone.

Is there any way to recover or do I have to re-add all the devices again?

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**Author:** ![Caseda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caseda/32/138695_2.png) [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/fibaro-app-going-from-alpha-to-beta-lost-all-devices/16819/2 "2019-08-13T16:02:17Z")

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there is no other way then to re-pair (remove and re-add) all your fibaro devices to Homey, i guess you didn’t read the message that said “if you go back to beta/stable you will lose all your data, including devices and settings”

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**Author:** ![Borgen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/borgen/32/12762_2.png) [@Borgen](https://community.homey.app/u/Borgen)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 4:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/fibaro-app-going-from-alpha-to-beta-lost-all-devices/16819/3 "2019-08-13T16:16:28Z")

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😣😣😣

Didnt see that.

To avoid similar in the future, is it possible to jump between stable and beta without having the same problem?

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**Author:** ![Caseda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caseda/32/138695_2.png) [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 9:33pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/fibaro-app-going-from-alpha-to-beta-lost-all-devices/16819/4 "2019-08-13T21:33:17Z")

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As soon as you go “up” (so alpha to beta or stable, or from beta to stable) you will _lose all devices_.  
If you go “down” (from stable to beta or alpha) you will keep all your devices.  
So no, there is no jumping without issues if you do it via the appstore.

Unless you learn how to install over CLI, as with that you can go from alpha/beta to a CLI version to stable “without issues”, if everything works as planned that is, as there is a reason for why Athom implemented this.

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**Author:** ![Borgen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/borgen/32/12762_2.png) [@Borgen](https://community.homey.app/u/Borgen)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 4:35am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/fibaro-app-going-from-alpha-to-beta-lost-all-devices/16819/5 "2019-08-14T04:35:07Z")

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Ok, thanks for the information.