# \[featureRequest\] add sustained values to Logic and Presence When cards

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/featurerequest-add-sustained-values-to-logic-and-presence-when-cards/142824>\
**Category:** Ideas & Suggestions\
**Created:** [September 11, 2025, 12:50pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/featurerequest-add-sustained-values-to-logic-and-presence-when-cards/142824 "2025-09-11T12:50:35Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 12:50pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/featurerequest-add-sustained-values-to-logic-and-presence-when-cards/142824/1 "2025-09-11T12:50:35Z")

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The new sustained values feature for advanced flows is really nice. It already works for numerous apps I use. However, it hasn’t been implemented in the native Logic and Presence apps.

I would love to see a native logic when card like: “when [variable] is [one of ‘equal to’, ‘not equal to’, ‘greater than’, ‘lower than’] [value] for [seconds] S.”

Or a presence card like: “When person was awake for [seconds] S”

This will allow me to uninstall apps like Countdown and Loops and rely on native functionality for all time based automations.