# \[FAQ\]\[Advanced Flow\] Infinite canvas. Infinite creativity

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/faq-advanced-flow-infinite-canvas-infinite-creativity/65145>\
**Category:** Flows\
**Tags:** advancedflow\
**Created:** [June 27, 2022, 10:12pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/faq-advanced-flow-infinite-canvas-infinite-creativity/65145 "2022-06-27T22:12:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 10:12pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/faq-advanced-flow-infinite-canvas-infinite-creativity/65145/1 "2022-06-27T22:12:00Z")

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### Something advanced is coming to Homey Pro…

> For the AMA  
> **[Advanced Flow — Ask Me Anything](https://community.homey.app/t/advanced-flow-ask-me-anything/65167)** 💬

The FAQ from Athom is already on the information page on the bottom.  
The link should automagically switch to your language (en/nl / etc…)

> Read the introduction from Athom here: **[Advanced Flow | Homey](https://homey.app/advanced-flow/)**

The EXTRA Things you can do in Advanced Flow

- Have multiple Triggers
- Have 1 (one) Start (Starting the Flow)
- Have Delays (0 -999 Seconds, 0-999 min.)
- All (function to wait for all incoming triggers before proceed)
- Any (function to wait for first incoming trigger to proceed)
- Parallel Execution
- Sequential Execution
- Error handling
- Make Notes (4 colors)
- Visual Following _Test_ Execution
- Test from “Here” - Partial execution

**Advanced Flow**  
on Additional Purchase a 25€ / $ once for a Homey Pro (models Early 2016-2019) (Incl. Older Homey Early 2016 and 2018 )  
Included with Homey Pro (Early 2023)  
Included with **Homey Subscription** (á $/€ 2,99 / month)

View / Edit ONLY on Desktop from a browser (Pc / Mac)

Missing in Advanced Flows:

- share a Flow ! (Use Prnt-Scrn / Win-shift-S or Shift + Command + 4 )

Re-Create the First Run template?  
Create a New advanced flow, in the URL barr type “?id=template” behind it  
You get something like below: with your Homey ID in place, press Enter!

[https://]my.homey.app/homeys/56123456789abcdef0123416/flows/advanced/create?id=template

**TIPs:**

> Mistakes:  
> One of the first Mistakes I already created an example for was posted within the first evening as “Example” on Facebook 😉

**Two triggers to start an ALL**  
Also applies to all other different **triggers** b̶e̶h̶i̶n̶d̶ before an ALL like “Someone came Home” AND “the door is opened” =\> That is NOT going to trigger NEVER!

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/0/7/07b8f61c91489578e20195bfa91712a476494fa6.png)  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/5/c/5ce7fe8ecf7cbaa4b6e5f3c4a233fd2cb7aed23a.png)  
That only works with an ANY function!  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/4/2/420567c7468661153418eba849205bc8fcac2410.png)

**Multiple _triggers_ (\< ANY \>) for a Condition/Action in One Trigger**  
By design within one Trigger, all cards can start (Maximum) one time,

So \< ANY \> = \< Delay 0 Sec \> = connecting all incoming directly to a \< Condition or Action Card \>  
Below you see one trigger (blue line) reaching the Action “Create a Notification with” (from Delay 1 sec.) the other Blue lines “Bounce” and are only colored half way.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/d/8/d8d0219d858b29b156cba66ce20136c19aef9e44.png)  
So only ONE Timeline Notification, not Two or 4 Notifications as you see.

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**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 10:12pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/faq-advanced-flow-infinite-canvas-infinite-creativity/65145/2 "2022-06-27T22:12:14Z")

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Reserved for FAQ # 2.

The Promo video also part of the Announcement

[https://etc.athom.com/advanced-flow/advanced-flow-1920x1080.mp4](https://etc.athom.com/advanced-flow/advanced-flow-1920x1080.mp4)

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**Author:** ![Nigel\_Scott](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/nigel_scott/32/10602_2.png) [@Nigel\_Scott](https://community.homey.app/u/Nigel_Scott)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 5:28pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/faq-advanced-flow-infinite-canvas-infinite-creativity/65145/3 "2022-06-28T17:28:07Z")

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Looks superb, upgraded without a second thought. Can’t wait to get started.

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**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/faq-advanced-flow-infinite-canvas-infinite-creativity/65145/4 "2022-06-28T17:46:42Z")

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On a Mobile app you see the flows exists bu can only trigger, disable/enable or rename.

 ![Screenshot_20220628-171445_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/5/2/52c0c66bc826c68fbeb7bf6c5c03f52e4ad4187c.jpeg)

 ![Screenshot_20220628-171743_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/0/e/0e0c8558e87e650e801b115d07d7a1028ef5c027.jpeg)

 ![Screenshot_20220628-171804_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/3/f/3fef15dc8856fcf2453c0bc9ebcb533b0a97af26.jpeg).

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**Author:** ![Henk\_Renting](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_renting/32/87634_2.png) [@Henk\_Renting](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_Renting)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 6:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/faq-advanced-flow-infinite-canvas-infinite-creativity/65145/5 "2022-06-28T18:27:47Z")

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That works on my Android phone. When I press the gear button in the iOS (iPad) app; nothing happens. Anyone got that problem too?

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Draper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jonathan_draper/32/33978_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Draper](https://community.homey.app/u/Jonathan_Draper)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 7:26pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/faq-advanced-flow-infinite-canvas-infinite-creativity/65145/6 "2022-06-28T19:26:07Z")

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I paid for the feature (using PayPal) and got my PayPal receipt by email almost immediately. Now what’s meant to happen? Web app still doesn’t think I’ve bought it when I try to create an advanced flow there. Am I missing something? Firmware already updated to 8.0.0 before I started.

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**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 7:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/faq-advanced-flow-infinite-canvas-infinite-creativity/65145/7 "2022-06-28T19:32:15Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Draper](#):
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> Am I missing something? Firmware already updated to 8.0.0 before I started.

Try a Logoff, Logon and check again.

Else go to [Developer Api-Playground](https://tools.developer.homey.app/tools/api-playground) and execute to see if a License: true appears by your Homey

```auto
AthomCloudAPI.api.getAuthenticatedUser().then(result => {
  return result.homeys.map(homey => {
    return { homey: homey.id, name: homey.name, model: homey.model, softwareVersion: homey.softwareVersion, license: homey.licenses.includes('advanced-flow')};
  });
});

```

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/a/d/adb48203af785818f33ba9928287f0340f286d0a.png)

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Draper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jonathan_draper/32/33978_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Draper](https://community.homey.app/u/Jonathan_Draper)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 7:42pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/faq-advanced-flow-infinite-canvas-infinite-creativity/65145/8 "2022-06-28T19:42:12Z")

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Thanks. Log off and on does nothing. License shows false in the developer api playground. I think the problem is with the store. The order status still shows as waiting for payment even though I got the receipt from paypal for the payment over half an hour ago. Surely this isn’t a manual process behind the scenes?!

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**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 7:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/faq-advanced-flow-infinite-canvas-infinite-creativity/65145/9 "2022-06-28T19:49:10Z")

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> [@Henk\_Renting](#):
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> When I press the gear button in the iOS (iPad) app; nothing happens.

What App version?  
on my iPhone SE 15.4 with the Mobile App 6.11.5 (956) it just works as on Android (with the appropriate user permission)

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**Author:** ![Henk\_Renting](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_renting/32/87634_2.png) [@Henk\_Renting](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_Renting)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 8:03pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/faq-advanced-flow-infinite-canvas-infinite-creativity/65145/10 "2022-06-28T20:03:09Z")

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I use v6.11.5.956 too, but on an iPad. Perhaps that’s the problem…  
Same user on both devices.

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**Author:** ![Teddy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/teddy/32/13818_2.png) [@Teddy](https://community.homey.app/u/Teddy)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 8:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/faq-advanced-flow-infinite-canvas-infinite-creativity/65145/11 "2022-06-28T20:11:38Z")

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I seriusly love this 🙂 Just tried creating my first AF and i re-created a script that used to be a multi script. The nice thing is i could add more function support to the script that i wasnt able to have in the old and merge 2 scripts together to 1 AF. Alot better this block design for more advanced stuff. Nice work @Emile

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 8:19pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/faq-advanced-flow-infinite-canvas-infinite-creativity/65145/12 "2022-06-28T20:19:02Z")

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I miss the possibility to temporary ‘disable’ flow cards with the simple flow editor.  
With the advanced editor, we can remove the connection, or move it to a next card in the chain (assumption).  
Question:  
Is the device (with no input or output(s) connected) still present in the flow when you save it and reopen it any other time?

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**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 8:20pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/faq-advanced-flow-infinite-canvas-infinite-creativity/65145/13 "2022-06-28T20:20:47Z")

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> [@Peter\_Kawa](#):
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> Question:  
> Is the device (with no input or output(s) connected) still present in the flow when you save it and reopen it any other time?

Yes

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 8:26pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/faq-advanced-flow-infinite-canvas-infinite-creativity/65145/14 "2022-06-28T20:26:59Z")

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Forgot to thank you for your time and effort with this topic 🎉

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Draper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jonathan_draper/32/33978_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Draper](https://community.homey.app/u/Jonathan_Draper)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 8:58pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/faq-advanced-flow-infinite-canvas-infinite-creativity/65145/15 "2022-06-28T20:58:36Z")

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After paying twice (seems to be a problem with the web store) I got this working. This is going to be a LOT of fun. Replaced 4 separate flows all implementing a thermostat using a temperature sensor and an electric radiator with a single AF. Much easier to see what’s going on now.

 ![Screenshot 2022-06-28 at 21.57.03](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/6/767fef09592eb919399f3ef32fe2045469a9346f.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Krisch2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/krisch2/32/47804_2.png) [@Krisch2](https://community.homey.app/u/Krisch2)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 9:01pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/faq-advanced-flow-infinite-canvas-infinite-creativity/65145/16 "2022-06-28T21:01:21Z")

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Hi

I’ve tried this super fuction, but I can’t get my lights to go off with inactivity card as a trigger.  
It works when I test the flow, but I can’t get it to work in real world testing.

 ![Flow](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/d/8/d8855f4fdf8af4bf2bade1693eb537a8ca450659.jpeg)  
Anyone that can help me to get this flow working?

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 9:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/faq-advanced-flow-infinite-canvas-infinite-creativity/65145/17 "2022-06-28T21:02:30Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Draper](#):
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> paying twice

Not so nice 😬

> [@Jonathan\_Draper](#):
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> LOT of fun

Nice! 🥳

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 9:07pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/faq-advanced-flow-infinite-canvas-infinite-creativity/65145/18 "2022-06-28T21:07:52Z")

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> [@Krisch2](#):
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> inactivity card as a trigger.

I believe that card will trigger only once 1 minute after activity. You did trigger the zone 1 minute before?

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 9:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/faq-advanced-flow-infinite-canvas-infinite-creativity/65145/19 "2022-06-28T21:25:00Z")

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Yes, I triggered the sensor in this zone and waited for 1 min after it showed inactive, but the flow wasn’t triggered…

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**Author:** ![Jero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jero/32/17556_2.png) [@Jero](https://community.homey.app/u/Jero)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 6:58am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/faq-advanced-flow-infinite-canvas-infinite-creativity/65145/21 "2022-06-29T06:58:42Z")

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I think this is a bug related to the results of cards being interpreted differently. Will dive into it today will probably be fixed in 8.0.1.

[Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/faq-advanced-flow-infinite-canvas-infinite-creativity/65145.md?page=2)
