# Eve Energy Smart Plug, will consumption be supported in future? **URL:** \ **Category:** Apps\ **Tags:** matter, thread\ **Created:** [October 12, 2024, 4:12pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/eve-energy-smart-plug-will-consumption-be-supported-in-future/117966 "2024-10-12T16:12:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Jumpingtrees](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jumpingtrees/32/79538_2.png) [@Jumpingtrees](https://community.homey.app/u/Jumpingtrees)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 8:17am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/eve-energy-smart-plug-will-consumption-be-supported-in-future/117966/21 "2025-01-12T08:17:25Z")
On the Homey homepage it says that for the new [v12.3.0 firmware](https://homey.app/en-us/wiki/homey-pro-early-2023-firmware-changelog/) update power measurement for Matter devices will be added. Maybe this will close the gap, but I am just trying to connect the dots here… ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/9/f/9f421f83e949df38ecf1a032f8c6a39326e7366d.png) ---
**Author:** ![ChrisG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/chrisg/32/8825_2.png) [@ChrisG](https://community.homey.app/u/ChrisG)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 8:47am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/eve-energy-smart-plug-will-consumption-be-supported-in-future/117966/22 "2025-01-12T08:47:29Z")
> [@ChrisG](#): > > I have found a way how “theoretically” the OTA firmware update should work. > > I first registered the sensor in the Homey app via the Apple-Thread and then also in the Home/Eve app via the Device \> Settings \> Repair function. Now the device is visible in both worlds and can also be controlled. > > And now why “theoretically” ? Quite simply, Eve has not yet released any new firmware…🤷‍♂️… > > BDW: This should actually work for all Matter devices and not just for eve devices. Hi @Doekse Could you not verify my idea of how the OTA could work ? And if it works, announce it officially, because then the tiresome discussions about it would be over once and for all. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 8:50am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/eve-energy-smart-plug-will-consumption-be-supported-in-future/117966/23 "2025-01-12T08:50:06Z")
Doesn’t “via the Apple-Thread” suggest that you have to use an Apple-branded Thread border router (like an ATV or HomePod)? Or does it also work if you pair the device using Homey’s Thread? ---
**Author:** ![Jumpingtrees](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jumpingtrees/32/79538_2.png) [@Jumpingtrees](https://community.homey.app/u/Jumpingtrees)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 9:03am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/eve-energy-smart-plug-will-consumption-be-supported-in-future/117966/24 "2025-01-12T09:03:04Z")
And you need run another Thread border router aside of Homey, or? This user experience is nothing I would like to have “officially” announced as a user from Homey. I would consider your proposal as a good workaround if you have a second Thread border router at hand, but the gold standard for a Matter over Thread devices should be a standardized OTA update procedure that can be implemented by smarthub vendors like Athom. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/chrisg/32/8825_2.png) [@ChrisG](https://community.homey.app/u/ChrisG)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 9:05am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/eve-energy-smart-plug-will-consumption-be-supported-in-future/117966/25 "2025-01-12T09:05:52Z")
I don’t know, I connected everything with “Connect via IOS” (Apple-Thread) and it works. For this reason I asked @Doekse if Athom can validate this, because I am at home in the Apple universe ---
**Author:** ![ChrisG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/chrisg/32/8825_2.png) [@ChrisG](https://community.homey.app/u/ChrisG)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 9:25am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/eve-energy-smart-plug-will-consumption-be-supported-in-future/117966/26 "2025-01-12T09:25:59Z")
I only use the “Apple-Thread” (Connect via IOS) because I had problems connecting to the basement with the Homey-Thread. The standardized update is a nice dream. But if the hardware manufacturer only makes the updates available to Apple, then Athom can’t do anything (this also applies to Zigbee, Zwave etc.) and so at least you have the latest firmware. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 9:34am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/eve-energy-smart-plug-will-consumption-be-supported-in-future/117966/27 "2025-01-12T09:34:24Z")
> [@ChrisG](#): > > But if the hardware manufacturer only makes the updates available to Apple Where (in which app) exactly do you get the option to upload a new firmware to the Eve device? ---
**Author:** ![ChrisG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/chrisg/32/8825_2.png) [@ChrisG](https://community.homey.app/u/ChrisG)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 9:45am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/eve-energy-smart-plug-will-consumption-be-supported-in-future/117966/28 "2025-01-12T09:45:48Z")
> [@robertklep](#): > > Where (in which app) exactly do you get the option to upload a new firmware to the Eve device? I only use the (iOS) Eve app. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/2/1/21bd88b52712860111aa91b6a3f1984810608fdc.jpeg) > **[Eve für Matter & HomeKit‑App – App Store](https://apps.apple.com/de/app/eve-f%C3%BCr-matter-homekit/id917695792)** > > Lade „Eve für Matter & HomeKit“ von Eve Systems GmbH im App Store herunter. Sieh dir Bildschirmfotos, Bewertungen und Rezensionen, Benutzertipps und weitere… ---
**Author:** ![ChrisG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/chrisg/32/8825_2.png) [@ChrisG](https://community.homey.app/u/ChrisG)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 9:52am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/eve-energy-smart-plug-will-consumption-be-supported-in-future/117966/29 "2025-01-12T09:52:21Z")
The other advantage of the Eve app is that the thread network is not a black box like Homey (not brilliant but better than nothing) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/3/3/33c7fa506f69cbd8ee8a27beea4586c9de8e0c6b.png) ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 10:38am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/eve-energy-smart-plug-will-consumption-be-supported-in-future/117966/30 "2025-01-12T10:38:49Z")
In which case I don’t understand your remark about _“if the hardware manufacturer only makes the updates available to Apple”_? The updates are being done from the Eve app, aren’t they? ---
**Author:** ![JanKanty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jankanty/32/120342_2.png) [@JanKanty](https://community.homey.app/u/JanKanty)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 6:43pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/eve-energy-smart-plug-will-consumption-be-supported-in-future/117966/31 "2025-01-12T18:43:12Z")
From what I know about Matter and OTA updates - every matter device has some kind of info about update origin baked inside and the matter hub just pulls info about new updates if they are available. It has to be implemented within the matter hub. In working scenario like Apple Home - Eve app has nothing to do there (you can force the update sometimes cause Eve allows it). The update is done purely via Apple matter hub like AppleTV or Homepod. @ChrisG your solution possibly works but in the ideal world I don’t want to have another hub. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 6:09am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/eve-energy-smart-plug-will-consumption-be-supported-in-future/117966/32 "2025-01-13T06:09:47Z")
> [@JanKanty](#): > > It has to be implemented within the matter hub. So Apple has made the effort of supporting this in their hubs, but Athom hasn’t 🤷🏼‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![Mariomark1541](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mariomark1541/32/178160_2.png) [@Mariomark1541](https://community.homey.app/u/Mariomark1541)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 8:13pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/eve-energy-smart-plug-will-consumption-be-supported-in-future/117966/33 "2025-01-13T20:13:09Z")
O bought also an eve plug with natter but still no energy visable ---
**Author:** ![Pieter\_Pessers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/pieter_pessers/32/8848_2.png) [@Pieter\_Pessers](https://community.homey.app/u/Pieter_Pessers)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 10:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/eve-energy-smart-plug-will-consumption-be-supported-in-future/117966/34 "2025-01-14T22:27:30Z")
So i’m also waiting for power consumption in my 5 eve energy plug. I don’t see a tab in the homey app for power consumtion. So i did something strange. I also attatched the eve energy plug to my home assistant. My home assistant computer has no matter stick attatched, but shares it with homey and uses homey as the matter/thread hub. I let homey make a new matter code in his homey app. This way home assistant can controle the eve energy plug. But more strange is dat you can see the power consumption in the home assistant. So i think homey is receiving the power consumption and shares it with home assistant. For @Doekse:“Why is that not shared with homey itself? or seen in the homey app and flows? It is receiving this powerconsumption data.” P.S. FW V12.3.0 (stable) is installed. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 6:25am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/eve-energy-smart-plug-will-consumption-be-supported-in-future/117966/35 "2025-01-15T06:25:44Z")
This has been explained before: the Eve plugs use non-standard clusters for energy reporting (at least until a new firmware is released that will use the standard ones). Home Assistant supports these non-standard clusters (also for other brands that use them), Homey doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Pieter\_Pessers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/pieter_pessers/32/8848_2.png) [@Pieter\_Pessers](https://community.homey.app/u/Pieter_Pessers)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 8:49am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/eve-energy-smart-plug-will-consumption-be-supported-in-future/117966/36 "2025-01-15T08:49:12Z")
Aaaah. Okay. Thanks for the explanation. I am afraid they won’t do that, with the change to break there own reading. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 9:46am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/eve-energy-smart-plug-will-consumption-be-supported-in-future/117966/37 "2025-01-15T09:46:48Z")
They should be able to implement both standard and non-standard clusters in the same device. ---
**Author:** ![Pieter\_Pessers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/pieter_pessers/32/8848_2.png) [@Pieter\_Pessers](https://community.homey.app/u/Pieter_Pessers)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 2:28pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/eve-energy-smart-plug-will-consumption-be-supported-in-future/117966/38 "2025-01-15T14:28:17Z")
I hope. But they are not quick in releasing firmware updates. I hear many people that they have the FW v3.2.1 and that is what my eve energy has as firmware. Oooh well. Just wait and see. ---
**Author:** ![JoshR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/joshr/32/114234_2.png) [@JoshR](https://community.homey.app/u/JoshR)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 10:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/eve-energy-smart-plug-will-consumption-be-supported-in-future/117966/39 "2025-03-12T22:25:57Z")
Can you please specify even a single matter outlet where you support power consumption measurement? I have a number of matter radiators in my house and need to get a mains powered matter device to act as a router. An outlet would be a perfect way forward with this… ---
**Author:** ![Frank\_Kuhlman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/frank_kuhlman/32/83505_2.png) [@Frank\_Kuhlman](https://community.homey.app/u/Frank_Kuhlman)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 2:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/eve-energy-smart-plug-will-consumption-be-supported-in-future/117966/40 "2025-05-13T14:02:27Z")
Doekse, looking forward to the EVE energy monitoring support. I’ll plan to use in to control my PHEV loading with solar. Having said that, can you provide us with a timeline you’ll expect to (pre) release the monitoring? Thanks [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/eve-energy-smart-plug-will-consumption-be-supported-in-future/117966.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/eve-energy-smart-plug-will-consumption-be-supported-in-future/117966.md?page=3)