# Enhance the localisation option

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/enhance-the-localisation-option/45865>\
**Category:** Ideas & Suggestions\
**Created:** [April 7, 2021, 10:07am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/enhance-the-localisation-option/45865 "2021-04-07T10:07:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![jeremypsl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jeremypsl/32/31124_2.png) [@jeremypsl](https://community.homey.app/u/jeremypsl)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 10:07am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/enhance-the-localisation-option/45865/1 "2021-04-07T10:07:58Z")

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Hi

Possibility to change the radius of presence detection.

Possibility to add more locations to detect presence in it.

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_hoogenbosch/32/10647_2.png) [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_Hoogenbosch)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/enhance-the-localisation-option/45865/2 "2021-04-07T19:00:15Z")

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Now possible with iOS shortcuts

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 1:58am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/enhance-the-localisation-option/45865/3 "2021-04-08T01:58:56Z")

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If you mean Homey’s own geofencing: The native Homey location radius is not adjustable as far as I know.

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_hoogenbosch/32/10647_2.png) [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_Hoogenbosch)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 6:50am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/enhance-the-localisation-option/45865/4 "2021-04-08T06:50:08Z")

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No, they have introduced a new feature with the latest iOS app version. They now can interact with shortcuts or in Dutch “opdrachten”. With this you can set it to a minimum to 100mtr.

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**Author:** ![jeremypsl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jeremypsl/32/31124_2.png) [@jeremypsl](https://community.homey.app/u/jeremypsl)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 9:29am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/enhance-the-localisation-option/45865/5 "2021-04-08T09:29:03Z")

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Yes i mean the native Homey location.  
When i walk my dogs arround my house, i don’t want to disable all my heating systems because Homey think i’m out.  
And it would be interesting to detect me on my way back from work to start heating system earlier than when i’m at home.  
I saw an app that can do that but not integrate as well as the native Homey location.  
Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 12:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/enhance-the-localisation-option/45865/6 "2021-04-08T12:41:27Z")

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Didn’t know that’s possible now on ios 😉  
Thanks Martijn!

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 12:50pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/enhance-the-localisation-option/45865/7 "2021-04-08T12:50:07Z")

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Ah i see, Jeremy. For that “I’m away, but still near the house” range, I use the push notification “Send a push acknowledgement” card.  
If I don’t respond, or select ‘No’, I’m not marked as Away.  
It’s not what one wants, but it’s a workaround.

 ![Screenshot_20210408-144253_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/8/e/8e4bbd6d54b6a4da5070f572ec453b64e4f36241.jpeg)

[My ‘Away’ flow:](https://homey.app/f/aHtwNy)

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 1:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/enhance-the-localisation-option/45865/8 "2021-04-08T13:08:54Z")

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> [@jeremypsl](#):
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> And it would be interesting to detect me on my way back from work to start heating system earlier than when i’m at home.

For me it works with Macrodroid Geofence, or Owntracks combined with the Location & presence app.  
With Macrodroid, you can set a range you like, but max 5km.  
With one macro, you can turn up the heating when you’re within the 5 km range, and mark yourself AtHome when you’re f.i. within the 500m range.  
I use a closer range, it marks me home if one of my wifi SSID’s is in range.  
It sends a webhook to Homey, works fine!

 ![Screenshot_20210408-150419_MacroDroid](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/d/6/d68ca6075aa096ccda7e5420dec3ca5bf8e55e1f.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_hoogenbosch/32/10647_2.png) [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_Hoogenbosch)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 3:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/enhance-the-localisation-option/45865/9 "2021-04-08T15:14:29Z")

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There is one thing. There is always a confirmation required to set your status to away or home, this is IOS behavior. That obviously sucks chocolate balls…

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**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 3:19pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/enhance-the-localisation-option/45865/10 "2021-04-08T15:19:01Z")

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> [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](#):
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> this is IOS behavior

For IOS: Locative! Adjustable from 10 meters to 50km!

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_hoogenbosch/32/10647_2.png) [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_Hoogenbosch)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 3:19pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/enhance-the-localisation-option/45865/11 "2021-04-08T15:19:49Z")

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seems almost like an advertisement… 😅

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**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 3:20pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/enhance-the-localisation-option/45865/12 "2021-04-08T15:20:39Z")

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[It is](https://community.homey.app/t/ios-presence-app-locative/14451)!

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**Author:** ![Edwin\_D](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/edwin_d/32/136417_2.png) [@Edwin\_D](https://community.homey.app/u/Edwin_D)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 3:28pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/enhance-the-localisation-option/45865/13 "2021-04-08T15:28:59Z")

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Setting the radius has it’s uses, but isn’t a grace period more what you need? Because if you’re at the neighbours for 4 hours, you might want the heating turned off even though you’re close. And if you drive of 5km to buy beer and drive straight back, you might not?

It does depend on how well isolated your house is though. Mine is pretty well isolated. If I go for a walk the robot vacuum goes to clean the bedroom floor and the heating turns off. But the effect isn’t noticeable after 20 mins. So I’m fine with a small radius. It makes sure the bedroom floor is clean without me hearing the noise, while still keeping warm 🙂 .

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 7:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/enhance-the-localisation-option/45865/14 "2021-04-08T19:36:53Z")

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> [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](#):
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> always a confirmation required

True that. Very big chocolate balls!  
That’s why I wrote:

> [@Peter\_Kawa](#):
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> It’s not what one wants, but it’s a workaround.

And the fixed range is the big limitation of Homey geo.  
With Macrodroid you can set a geo range of 5kms max, but you can also use gsm location, or “a spot” on the work-home route which triggers the heating system f.i.  
Or, with Owntracks you can save locations and set their range. F.i. a 100kms is possible.

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**Author:** ![jeremypsl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jeremypsl/32/31124_2.png) [@jeremypsl](https://community.homey.app/u/jeremypsl)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 10:11am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/enhance-the-localisation-option/45865/15 "2021-04-09T10:11:15Z")

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Hummm that’s super cool !  
Didn’t know this feature.  
So if i don’t respond, is it a Yes or a No to the question ?  
And if it is a No, it don’t run the Then ?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 11:55am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/enhance-the-localisation-option/45865/16 "2021-04-09T11:55:11Z")

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Thx, Jeremy. It can also come in handy with automatic “go to sleep” flows. F.i. when your “sleep” flow has been triggered, it only proceeds after you pushed Yes. And this can be an hour later f.i.

- Ignore Q = pause flow until Yes or No —\> if flow is triggered again, a new push acknowledgement is being sent (tested!)
- Answer No = ~~cancel~~ continue flow, but fire ELSE action cards
- Answer Yes = continue flow

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 10:27am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/enhance-the-localisation-option/45865/17 "2021-04-10T10:27:38Z")

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@jeremypsl Tested! I ran a flow every 4hrs, and ignored the push ack:

> [@Peter\_Kawa](#):
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> Ignore Q = pause flow until Yes or No \> if flow is triggered again, a new push acknowledgement is being sent (tested!)

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**Author:** ![jeremypsl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jeremypsl/32/31124_2.png) [@jeremypsl](https://community.homey.app/u/jeremypsl)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 4:18pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/enhance-the-localisation-option/45865/18 "2021-04-26T16:18:51Z")

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Well, i tested location & presence app, not really working for me, my wife is often not detected…

Possibility to change the radius of presence detection in Homey can be a very interesting option for me ! 😍
