# Else only flows **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Created:** [February 7, 2019, 1:38am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/else-only-flows/8845 "2019-02-07T01:38:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![viix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/4af34b/32.png) [@viix](https://community.homey.app/u/viix)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 1:38am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/else-only-flows/8845/1 "2019-02-07T01:38:03Z")
So I’ve searched the forums but somehow the search term is too generic. How can I create a else only flow? In the old firmware, the else is an easy drag and drop. With the new mobile only version, I can only drag a else operation only if there is another operation already above. I see it’s possible since my older flows made from v1.5 firmware still have a else only flow there. ---
**Author:** ![Paul76](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/paul76/32/34391_2.png) [@Paul76](https://community.homey.app/u/Paul76)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 4:42am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/else-only-flows/8845/2 "2019-02-07T04:42:39Z")
This you can do in ‘and’ ![Screenshot_20190207-054057_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/9/9980a663f9abfcc05b7dbc2088480b69c1d61002.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![viix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/4af34b/32.png) [@viix](https://community.homey.app/u/viix)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 5:03am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/else-only-flows/8845/3 "2019-02-07T05:03:18Z")
Thanks for this but I really only want to use the ELSE because the AND section has a limit of only 3 conditions with the OR operator, but unlimited if I select the INVERSE of the conditions I want and put the action required to execute in the ELSE. This reduces the numbers of flows I have. This was a workaround to reduce my flow shared in the [older forum here](https://forum.athom.com/discussion/5088/compare-variables-to-an-array-instead-of-running-3-consecutive-flow) Maybe my workaround now is to create a NULL virtual device to trigger the the THEN so I can use my card in the ELSE section ---
**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 5:20am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/else-only-flows/8845/4 "2019-02-07T05:20:00Z")
> [@viix](#): > > NULL virtual device to trigger the the THEN Rather then using a null as a trigger, could you just ‘flow → start a flow’ as the action. ---
**Author:** ![viix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/4af34b/32.png) [@viix](https://community.homey.app/u/viix)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 6:13am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/else-only-flows/8845/5 "2019-02-07T06:13:33Z")
That null is there (in the THEN slot before the ELSE) so I can use the ELSE slot and not to trigger a flow. Basically a virtual device that does nothing… My desired actions happen in the ELSE slot. Unless I’m understanding it wrongly ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 6:18am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/else-only-flows/8845/6 "2019-02-07T06:18:20Z")
No what @viix means is to place a dummy action in the THEN as in v2 0 at least one action in the THEN is required before you can use the ELSE option. I had seen this change from 1.5.x but I understand ( assume ) it would be to confusing for many users when they put the first card by accident below the ELSE . Therefore I see your option to put a dummy action in the THEN as best workaround keeping the interface logical for the other users.