# Devices without apps **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Created:** [August 12, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/devices-without-apps/33549 "2020-08-12T23:01:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jos\_Echelpoels](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jos_echelpoels/32/17360_2.png) [@Jos\_Echelpoels](https://community.homey.app/u/Jos_Echelpoels)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/devices-without-apps/33549/1 "2020-08-12T23:01:30Z")
Hi, I am new to this forum and I am still trying to decide on whether I should go for Homey, or not. One of the main issues that I think I see, is that many of my devices are not natively supported by Homey apps. Just a few examples: - Winsol awning - Mitsubishi airco - Jablotron alarm system with door/window sensors, movement sensors, key fobs, sirens etc… And that would be just a small part of devices without an app…I have quite a few devices with remote controls, but I usually have very little information about the communication methods and protocols they use. They typically came together with the installation. So, does it make sense to go with Homey if so many devices are not supported, and if yes, then how to address this problem with non-supported devices, which is probably more the rule than the exception? thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Undertaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/undertaker/32/53278_2.png) [@Undertaker](https://community.homey.app/u/Undertaker)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 3:33am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/devices-without-apps/33549/2 "2020-08-13T03:33:46Z")
Hi Jos, I took a look at your devices. It really depends on which radio protocol you are using. I integrate many non Homey compatible devices into Homey with Home Assistant. I’ve also checked this option, but not a single one of your devices is compatible here either. The last option is IFTTT. Please check whether the devices work with it. ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 5:15am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/devices-without-apps/33549/3 "2020-08-13T05:15:27Z")
It isn’t that dumb devices with a remote will become smart with Homey. What do you want to archieve with Homey? Or can you make them smart in another way? Adding a socket to measure and switch power? Or for example by adding a bridge if the device isn’t able to connect direct. And last: will you be able to make apps yourself for fe devices with an rf remote? if Homey doesn’t support them do you have an alternative automation platform that will support them? ---
**Author:** ![Jos\_Echelpoels](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jos_echelpoels/32/17360_2.png) [@Jos\_Echelpoels](https://community.homey.app/u/Jos_Echelpoels)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 9:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/devices-without-apps/33549/4 "2020-08-13T21:36:27Z")
Thanks Undertaker! When you use Home Assistant, does it mean you have been implementing a Raspberry Pi to connect to those devices and then you connect your Raspberry Pi to your Homey? I am not familiar with Home Assistant, nor with IFTTT, but are you suggesting that these platforms support more brands and devices than Homey? But then, these solutions may require a level of technical insight I may not be able or willing to invest in it. What about Broadlink? Could that be a solution you think? PS: The automation on the Winsol awning is probably by Somfy (for sure the remote control is Somfy), so that could solve that problem perhaps? ---
**Author:** ![Jos\_Echelpoels](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jos_echelpoels/32/17360_2.png) [@Jos\_Echelpoels](https://community.homey.app/u/Jos_Echelpoels)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/devices-without-apps/33549/5 "2020-08-13T21:47:16Z")
Thanks Dijker, I am not thinking about complex rules to be honest. It could be simple things like being able to open the gate, or activate the airco remotely before getting home. Or to close the gate in case of an alarm and switch on the lights, also of the awning. Or using my phone as the remote control for all my controllable devices in the house and the garden. Or - perhaps a bit more complex - having the awning opening in the morning automatically depending on the season, the weather forecast and the time the sun rises. Does that make sense or am I expecting too much of what Homey can do for me? I have no clue what it would take to make an app myself. Apart from an alarm system, I have no automation platform today in place. Replacing some sensors with compatible sensors is not too much of a problem, but we will not be replacing the awning or the garage door etc. simply because they don’t integrate with Homey. Thanks again. ---
**Author:** ![Undertaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/undertaker/32/53278_2.png) [@Undertaker](https://community.homey.app/u/Undertaker)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2020, 4:05am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/devices-without-apps/33549/6 "2020-08-14T04:05:36Z")
> [@Jos\_Echelpoels](#): > > Wenn Sie Home Assistant verwenden, bedeutet dies, dass Sie einen Raspberry Pi implementiert haben, um eine Verbindung zu diesen Geräten herzustellen, und dann Ihren Raspberry Pi mit Ihrem Homey verbinden? It is exactly like that > [@Jos\_Echelpoels](#): > > Was ist mit Broadlink? Könnte das eine Lösung sein, die Sie denken? If the remote controls send via infrared, it works. Radio protocols with 433 or 868 MHz are also often used. You should check carefully which system the remote controls are using. > [@Jos\_Echelpoels](#): > > Die Automatisierung der Winsol-Markise stammt wahrscheinlich von Somf Unfortunately, I don’t know anything about Somfy. ---
**Author:** ![Joka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Joka](https://community.homey.app/u/Joka)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2020, 9:38am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/devices-without-apps/33549/7 "2020-08-14T09:38:39Z")
> [@Jos\_Echelpoels](#): > > PS: The automation on the Winsol awning is probably by Somfy (for sure the remote control is Somfy), so that could solve that problem perhaps? Then it will be easy, just use the somfy app, I think it is the RTS Protokoll. ---
**Author:** ![Jos\_Echelpoels](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jos_echelpoels/32/17360_2.png) [@Jos\_Echelpoels](https://community.homey.app/u/Jos_Echelpoels)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2020, 9:52am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/devices-without-apps/33549/8 "2020-08-14T09:52:31Z")
Thanks! This helps!