# Daikin ONECTA - no AND card for outside temperature?

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/daikin-onecta-no-and-card-for-outside-temperature/116078>\
**Category:** Questions & Help\
**Tags:** flow\
**Created:** [September 15, 2024, 11:33am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/daikin-onecta-no-and-card-for-outside-temperature/116078 "2024-09-15T11:33:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Musicus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/musicus/32/114255_2.png) [@Musicus](https://community.homey.app/u/Musicus)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 11:33am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/daikin-onecta-no-and-card-for-outside-temperature/116078/1 "2024-09-15T11:33:27Z")

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Hi, for intermediate temperatures (spring, fall) I do not need the full capacity of my Daikin heat pump and so I am trying to reduce costs by making the on/off control dependant on dynamic electricity price (Tibber), with the outside temperature from the external Daikin unit as a secondary condition.  
However, for Daikin ONECTA external temperature is only available as a WHEN-card.

Here my questions: Do connectors to other heat pump brands provide outside temperature as an AND-card?  
Is there somewhere an overview of currently supported cards with all connectors?

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 12:13pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/daikin-onecta-no-and-card-for-outside-temperature/116078/2 "2024-09-15T12:13:08Z")

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> [@Musicus](#):
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> However, for Daikin ONECTA external temperature is only available as a WHEN-card.

Almost no app provides specific AND cards for this because these values are typically available as a tag and you can use the Logic comparison cards, as explained [here](https://support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/4410240765586-Using-Homey-Logic-in-Flows).

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**Author:** ![Musicus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/musicus/32/114255_2.png) [@Musicus](https://community.homey.app/u/Musicus)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/daikin-onecta-no-and-card-for-outside-temperature/116078/3 "2024-09-15T20:54:29Z")

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Bedankt, Robert, I have got a flow running that does what I need.  
In hindsight, what may have raised wrong expectations is the fact that for some interfaces such AND-cards do exist - I had been training my expectation on Tibber. So I guess that is an ‘convenience case’.  
But I am most grateful that Homey exists and hope it will continue to prosper and expand. Groeten, Christian