# Compatible water meter? **URL:** \ **Category:** Devices\ **Created:** [August 7, 2023, 9:21am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/compatible-water-meter/86383 "2023-08-07T09:21:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gustav\_Groning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gustav_groning/32/71446_2.png) [@Gustav\_Groning](https://community.homey.app/u/Gustav_Groning)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 9:21am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/compatible-water-meter/86383/1 "2023-08-07T09:21:18Z")
Need your support to findout if there is any compatible water meter to my water installation: ![20230806_101411](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/e/c/ec110ef0484722b5a6c40778b72fa91a28b0f60b.jpeg) As you can see in picture it doesn’t have the a red water consumption arrow for total water usage, that most water meters are tracking. (I have red arrows for each figures and black cross that is rotating with the water flow) Found this option but are not sure if someone have integrated with HP23. > **[Home Assistant, ESP32-CAM och automatisk avläsning av en analog vattenmätare...](https://petrone.se/vattenforbrukning/home-assistant-esp32-cam-och-automatisk-avlasning-av-en-analog-vattenmatare/)** > > Tänk om man kunde nyttja informationen från sin gamla analoga vattenmätare (som är helt fantastisk och cool) i Home Assistant för att hålla koll på hur mycket vatten som en bostad nyttjar samt skapa automatiska alarm för vattenläckage… Du kommer... ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 10:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/compatible-water-meter/86383/2 "2023-08-07T10:48:08Z")
This one _might_ be compatible, while your meter seems to have a rotating flow indicator [https://smartgateways.nl/en/product/smart-water-meter-gateway/](https://smartgateways.nl/en/product/smart-water-meter-gateway/) To make sure, just contact these guys: [https://smartgateways.nl/en/contact/](https://smartgateways.nl/en/contact/) (I’m not affiliated in any possible way) ---
**Author:** ![JPe4619](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jpe4619/32/9017_2.png) [@JPe4619](https://community.homey.app/u/JPe4619)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 1:01pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/compatible-water-meter/86383/3 "2023-08-07T13:01:15Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/0/f/0f6e114f994301f6b9db98af217ba02e339670a9.png) It seems it can be connected via MQTT, maybe that is an option for you? [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/1/3/13842b08d2f5d8855cc4a358ad3140c1fa6b6d44.jpeg "ESP32-Cam on your water meter with "AI-on-the-edge" -- also for gas and power meters") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUgxwbfkIqU) ---
**Author:** ![Gustav\_Groning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gustav_groning/32/71446_2.png) [@Gustav\_Groning](https://community.homey.app/u/Gustav_Groning)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/compatible-water-meter/86383/4 "2023-08-07T17:59:35Z")
Thank you for your proposal @Peter_Kawa. I have already checked with [https://smartgateways.nl](https://smartgateways.nl) and unfortunately received this answer: “Thanks for your mail. Unfortunately your meter doesn’t give any pulses when water is used. I don’t have a solution for you.” ---
**Author:** ![Gustav\_Groning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gustav_groning/32/71446_2.png) [@Gustav\_Groning](https://community.homey.app/u/Gustav_Groning)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 6:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/compatible-water-meter/86383/5 "2023-08-07T18:15:16Z")
Thanks @JPe4619 , this could be a solution! I was hopping for an “of the shelf solution” but this might be the backup solution. ---
**Author:** ![Jeroen\_Tebbens](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jeroen_tebbens/32/62246_2.png) [@Jeroen\_Tebbens](https://community.homey.app/u/Jeroen_Tebbens)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 6:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/compatible-water-meter/86383/6 "2023-08-07T18:36:35Z")
Homewizard wont work either as it depends on same method (magnet impulse on rotating wheel). ---
**Author:** ![Gustav\_Groning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gustav_groning/32/71446_2.png) [@Gustav\_Groning](https://community.homey.app/u/Gustav_Groning)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2023, 11:44am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/compatible-water-meter/86383/7 "2023-09-10T11:44:33Z")
So I have now purchased an ESP32 CAM and installed AI on the Edge to read the water meter: ![Skärmavbild 2023-09-10 kl. 13.26.15](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/a/2/a2f6440c9ecc9284e1a8995f10f9c1bea8aa2c47.jpeg) I have installed MQTT Broker, Client and Hub. ![Skärmavbild 2023-09-10 kl. 13.22.25](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/d/c/dc627cec4f5d01cb830000fe4b9de6f9f19d82ea.png) ![Skärmavbild 2023-09-10 kl. 13.22.49](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/0/0/0031d224bc460e53f033107a766bf23346b4b15b.png) I have installed MQTT explorer to read messages. ![Skärmavbild 2023-09-10 kl. 13.14.51](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/a/4/a4957d03a56bb605bd5b1ffade1df3905e234dcd.png) I tried to crate a virtual device by using MQTT Hub: { “meter\_water”: { “capability”: “meter\_water”, “stateTopic”: “watermeter/main/value”, “setTopic”: “”, “valueTemplate”: “”, “outputTemplate”: “”, “displayName”: “Water Meter” } } ![Skärmavbild 2023-09-10 kl. 13.30.20](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/b/4/b4d7737734078e4e4af771db50ae06f9cf1d0665.png) **Goal:** I want to read the water meter. Use the values in Power By Hour summary. Detect if any leakage in house. Should have 0 water flow for certain hours/day. **Questions:** 1. First basic question: Why do I need to install all these apps. Why is not all functionality include all of it into one MQTT app? 2. Am I on right track? Is there any existing easy tutorials to explain how to achieve this? Is there a smarter way to achieve this? 3. How do I get the values into virtual device? 4. How do I get the values into Power by Hour? ---
**Author:** ![Gustav\_Groning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gustav_groning/32/71446_2.png) [@Gustav\_Groning](https://community.homey.app/u/Gustav_Groning)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2023, 7:55pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/compatible-water-meter/86383/8 "2023-09-10T19:55:48Z")
I fanally solved it. I was not correct logged in at MQTT Client 😵‍💫 ![Skärmavbild 2023-09-10 kl. 21.47.08](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/f/d/fd42d6df7624f81466ae84c08ac95ea8f1060b90.png) ![Skärmavbild 2023-09-10 kl. 21.47.37](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/b/0/b0b3a89d6999914392d4a993a5a20fcf02d197a1.jpeg) Can I calculate water flow (vattenflöde) directly in MQTT HUB virtual device?? ---
**Author:** ![Blooddrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/blooddrunk/32/82094_2.png) [@Blooddrunk](https://community.homey.app/u/Blooddrunk)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 9:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/compatible-water-meter/86383/9 "2024-12-14T21:47:45Z")
Hello, do you think that water meter from homewizard would work with this type of analogue water meter? Thanks for your reply in advance! ![IMG_9999](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/1/f/1f6dac71b02a712d071ad1bf707026878c22ae09.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Jeroen\_Tebbens](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jeroen_tebbens/32/62246_2.png) [@Jeroen\_Tebbens](https://community.homey.app/u/Jeroen_Tebbens)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 10:03pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/compatible-water-meter/86383/10 "2024-12-14T22:03:23Z")
Check here: [https://helpdesk.homewizard.com/nl/articles/6287701-werkt-de-watermeter-met-mijn-analoge-watermeter-en-hoe-installeer-ik-deze](https://helpdesk.homewizard.com/nl/articles/6287701-werkt-de-watermeter-met-mijn-analoge-watermeter-en-hoe-installeer-ik-deze) ---
**Author:** ![Blooddrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/blooddrunk/32/82094_2.png) [@Blooddrunk](https://community.homey.app/u/Blooddrunk)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 10:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/compatible-water-meter/86383/11 "2024-12-14T22:08:24Z")
I already did, but it is not really helpful tbh. My brand should by supported, but looks different than pictured analogue. On the other hand, unsupported analogue also looks a bit different. So hard to say 😅. I will probably try to contact directly homewizard. ---
**Author:** ![Jeroen\_Tebbens](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jeroen_tebbens/32/62246_2.png) [@Jeroen\_Tebbens](https://community.homey.app/u/Jeroen_Tebbens)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 10:12pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/compatible-water-meter/86383/12 "2024-12-14T22:12:43Z")
I am not from Homewizard. I am a hobbyist that spends his free time on the Homey/Homewizard app. I really cant tell/say if it works or not so sorry for that. What I can see it is a sensus but thats it. So yes maybe? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Nico\_Tissink](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/nico_tissink/32/83681_2.png) [@Nico\_Tissink](https://community.homey.app/u/Nico_Tissink)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 11:30am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/compatible-water-meter/86383/13 "2024-12-15T11:30:56Z")
I checked with Homewizard about a different type of water meter, and they told me that as long as there is a metal component rotating when water is used, it should function properly. Their water usage meter operates on inductive technology, so it requires the presence of metal to detect flow. ---
**Author:** ![Jeroen\_Tebbens](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jeroen_tebbens/32/62246_2.png) [@Jeroen\_Tebbens](https://community.homey.app/u/Jeroen_Tebbens)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 11:39am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/compatible-water-meter/86383/14 "2024-12-15T11:39:20Z")
Correct but still those frames (mount brackets) must align with the sensor on top of that induction rotation wheel. Else, there is always ducktape. 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Blooddrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/blooddrunk/32/82094_2.png) [@Blooddrunk](https://community.homey.app/u/Blooddrunk)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 11:56am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/compatible-water-meter/86383/15 "2024-12-15T11:56:12Z")
So it seems like mine could work as I have metal arrow in there. ---
**Author:** ![Jeroen\_Tebbens](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jeroen_tebbens/32/62246_2.png) [@Jeroen\_Tebbens](https://community.homey.app/u/Jeroen_Tebbens)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 12:10pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/compatible-water-meter/86383/16 "2024-12-15T12:10:55Z")
Nearby power as well? Else API of the watermeter womt work. ---
**Author:** ![Blooddrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/blooddrunk/32/82094_2.png) [@Blooddrunk](https://community.homey.app/u/Blooddrunk)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 12:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/compatible-water-meter/86383/17 "2024-12-15T12:35:34Z")
Why do I need power? Aren’t batteries enough? ---
**Author:** ![Jeroen\_Tebbens](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jeroen_tebbens/32/62246_2.png) [@Jeroen\_Tebbens](https://community.homey.app/u/Jeroen_Tebbens)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 12:46pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/compatible-water-meter/86383/18 "2024-12-15T12:46:47Z")
For Homey integration it must be usb powered. In battery mode you only get 4 times water measure a day to Homewizard Energy cloud. If its usb powered it will be realtime and you can enable the local api interface of the device which is mandatory for Homey/Home Assistant integration. ---
**Author:** ![Blooddrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/blooddrunk/32/82094_2.png) [@Blooddrunk](https://community.homey.app/u/Blooddrunk)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 2:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/compatible-water-meter/86383/19 "2024-12-15T14:25:06Z")
Oh god, then it is useless for me ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Jeroen\_Tebbens](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jeroen_tebbens/32/62246_2.png) [@Jeroen\_Tebbens](https://community.homey.app/u/Jeroen_Tebbens)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 2:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/compatible-water-meter/86383/20 "2024-12-15T14:41:43Z")
Sorry, battery cant keep wifi active polling based so it must be usb powered.