# Can we have a real Homey Pro please **URL:** \ **Category:** Ideas & Suggestions\ **Created:** [April 12, 2020, 9:58am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/can-we-have-a-real-homey-pro-please/28249 "2020-04-12T09:58:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Eivind\_Bo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/eivind_bo/32/10238_2.png) [@Eivind\_Bo](https://community.homey.app/u/Eivind_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2020, 9:58am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/can-we-have-a-real-homey-pro-please/28249/1 "2020-04-12T09:58:16Z")
I want to use Homey for many earlier projects delivered with HDL Buspro and KNX. But i can not recommend hardware like this to professional installers. So please make a black box, with RJ45 Ethernet interface. The potential just for me is 100-1000 units. (As an upgrade to HDL Buspro and KNX systems) ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2020, 10:22am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/can-we-have-a-real-homey-pro-please/28249/2 "2020-04-12T10:22:55Z")
This is a community forum and your posts, questions and suggestions will not be read by Athom. You can read more about this here [Welcome to the forum.](https://community.homey.app/t/welcome-to-the-forum/31). ---
**Author:** ![Eivind\_Bo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/eivind_bo/32/10238_2.png) [@Eivind\_Bo](https://community.homey.app/u/Eivind_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/can-we-have-a-real-homey-pro-please/28249/3 "2020-04-12T16:24:11Z")
Anybody know any rumors if this is something thats in the making? Is it only me that want a “black box”? ---
**Author:** ![PetervdK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/petervdk/32/20669_2.png) [@PetervdK](https://community.homey.app/u/PetervdK)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2020, 4:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/can-we-have-a-real-homey-pro-please/28249/4 "2020-04-12T16:32:24Z")
No clue what a black box is or what i should do with it and how it would improve the existing hardware… ---
**Author:** ![Tolga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tolga/32/12563_2.png) [@Tolga](https://community.homey.app/u/Tolga)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/can-we-have-a-real-homey-pro-please/28249/5 "2020-04-12T19:10:13Z")
Black Box??? ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/can-we-have-a-real-homey-pro-please/28249/6 "2020-04-12T19:18:51Z")
I guess the white globe is a more consumer friendly. They even didn’t enable the linux driver for the USB-ethernet adapter using a USB-OTG adapter that I requested as discussed with a couple of early adapters. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 6:35am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/can-we-have-a-real-homey-pro-please/28249/7 "2020-04-13T06:35:10Z")
How would that work in terms of providing power to Homey, though? ---
**Author:** ![Eivind\_Bo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/eivind_bo/32/10238_2.png) [@Eivind\_Bo](https://community.homey.app/u/Eivind_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 7:03am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/can-we-have-a-real-homey-pro-please/28249/9 "2020-04-13T07:03:41Z")
A just mean a normal form and shape, and color. A black rectangular box like any Wifi ruter or small computer. A white globe with only Wifi is not any professional company will install, in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 8:02am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/can-we-have-a-real-homey-pro-please/28249/11 "2020-04-13T08:02:00Z")
You could solder one yourself from two USB cables Or buy one of these fe from #Aliexpress | Mini B USB Male to USB Female Host OTG + USB Power Cable Y Splitter cable for MP3/MP4 Phone High Quality > **[US $0.89 22% OFF|Mini B USB Male to USB Female Host OTG + USB Power Cable Y...](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32848494247.html?mb=Rl5JAoMl911G1Y0&srcSns=Copy%2Bto%2BClipboard&tid=white_backgroup_101&tt=sns_Copy&image=Hc76f6797c21f4f819535c140b6061676o.jpg&aff_request_id=0af9d584eb3942dba1a2bb6010b06325-1586761857352-04107-_Bf9ksc5K&spreadType=socialShare&aff_platform=default&sk=_Bf9ksc5K&aff_trace_key=0af9d584eb3942dba1a2bb6010b06325-1586761857352-04107-_Bf9ksc5K&businessType=ProductDetail&templateId=white_backgroup_101&title=%E2%82%AC%2B0%2C83%2B%2B22%25OFF%2B%7C%2BMini%2BB%2BUSB%2BMale%2Bto%2BUSB%2BFemale%2BHost%2BOTG%2B%2B%2BUSB%2BPower%2BCable%2BY%2BSplitter%2Bcable%2Bfor%2BMP3%2FMP4%2BPhone%2BHigh%2BQuality&platform=AE&terminal_id=a4a154a8beea480783161063e0c06a95)** > > Smarter Shopping, Better Living! Aliexpress.com I tried one with to different ethernet USB adapters and when one of the AATP firmware upgrades gave issues Athom could see it was due to the connected Ethernet adapter. Athom opted they maybe would enable the driver in a hacky friday, but I guess they had more challenging issues to fix. That was in the 0.x firmware time everything was possible they thought… Google also had a USB power supply with integrated Ethernet for the chromecast but can’t find it anymore. You only needed a USB micro to mini adapter extra. ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 8:16am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/can-we-have-a-real-homey-pro-please/28249/12 "2020-04-13T08:16:36Z")
Found! Still available but not from the Netherlands… ![20200413_101427](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/0/d/0d96b28416b0fe1e5c5e091448b75e5307c871ab.jpeg) Although the power rating is relatively low. With only 850mA Would not try with the SuperHomey ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 8:22am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/can-we-have-a-real-homey-pro-please/28249/13 "2020-04-13T08:22:38Z")
I guess Athom didn’t want to encourage hacky solutions like that 😬 AFAIK, Y-splitters aren’t allowed by the USB spec, but even if they were, USB-OTG defines specific roles for each side, including a “will provide power” role, which Homey would be. With a Y cable, you’re externally powering that side. It may work, but I’m not surprised to hear about “issues”. Besides that, providing power like this to two devices (the Ethernet adapter and Homey) simultaneously may introduce noise/ripple/distortion into the power supply from one device to the other. ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 8:34am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/can-we-have-a-real-homey-pro-please/28249/14 "2020-04-13T08:34:06Z")
Technically you could be correct but the issue they mentioned was just something in the used (cq missing) drivers that it dit not work. They could see the USB device. But maybe they realised the potential issues vs the high expectations of the people that would try it was not worth investing time in this. ---
**Author:** ![PetervdK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/petervdk/32/20669_2.png) [@PetervdK](https://community.homey.app/u/PetervdK)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 8:53am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/can-we-have-a-real-homey-pro-please/28249/15 "2020-04-13T08:53:20Z")
Well. Maybe it isn’t meant to be for the professional companies. Feels to me a bit like asking Ferrari to build a pickup truck because the professional contractors can’t use their cars at work… ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 10:24am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/can-we-have-a-real-homey-pro-please/28249/16 "2020-04-13T10:24:14Z")
It is just how you see Homey, Asking: hey Volkswagen, Ford, Mercedes, nice car, can you also provide a van? Maybe not that strange 😁 Issue is it is a complete other market and for producing 1000s of Homey each month having only a much smaller market for the professional will introduce other issues and make it probably more expensive. The same PCB with a quad core SOM and same software would be possible but an Ethernet connector, PoE, probably needing external antenna also as signals in a closet or 19inch rack perform less. The design and production will cost to much I think to make profitable for them now. I guess they have looked at it but I don’t expect anything soon. @Eivind_Bo, have you contacted Athom directly? Pls share their reaction! Maybe professional company’s should choose to implement design objects if they are just the best solution 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Joost\_Else](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/joost_else/32/17360_2.png) [@Joost\_Else](https://community.homey.app/u/Joost_Else)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 7:45pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/can-we-have-a-real-homey-pro-please/28249/17 "2020-04-13T19:45:06Z")
In a truely professional environment, homey just is no contender. In addition to said KNX and HDL, there is no DALI, no MP, 6LoWPan or even BLE Mesh. No, Homey is meant for non-professional home automation. If you want a professional solution, shop professional. You’ll probably end up with some DIN rail solution or, indeed, “black boxes”. Quite a different market with dito pricetag serving different requirements. Trying to use homey-like solutions to such an environment would be like bringing a knife to a gunfight. ---
**Author:** ![MasterAeon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/masteraeon/32/1320_2.png) [@MasterAeon](https://community.homey.app/u/MasterAeon)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 10:17am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/can-we-have-a-real-homey-pro-please/28249/18 "2020-04-14T10:17:32Z")
Homey Pro just isn’t powerful enough for my environment, so I asked Athom if the have any plans for powerful hardware with proper antennas in the future. Simply the answer was: “We do not have any plans that would involve a huge overhaul of the hardware.” By the way, what are the professional alternatives? ---
**Author:** ![PetervdK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/petervdk/32/20669_2.png) [@PetervdK](https://community.homey.app/u/PetervdK)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 12:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/can-we-have-a-real-homey-pro-please/28249/19 "2020-04-14T12:44:35Z")
Just read the topic. That should make it clear. ---
**Author:** ![MasterAeon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/masteraeon/32/1320_2.png) [@MasterAeon](https://community.homey.app/u/MasterAeon)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/can-we-have-a-real-homey-pro-please/28249/20 "2020-04-14T16:36:05Z")
Wouldn’t ask if it did. ---
**Author:** ![Joost\_van\_Kempen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/joost_van_kempen/32/10067_2.png) [@Joost\_van\_Kempen](https://community.homey.app/u/Joost_van_Kempen)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/can-we-have-a-real-homey-pro-please/28249/21 "2020-04-15T15:41:14Z")
Well, Lamborghin builds tractors ([https://www.lamborghini-tractors.com/](https://www.lamborghini-tractors.com/)), so why not?? 🤪 ---
**Author:** ![Tangodelta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tangodelta/32/9471_2.png) [@Tangodelta](https://community.homey.app/u/Tangodelta)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/can-we-have-a-real-homey-pro-please/28249/22 "2020-04-15T15:48:54Z")
You don`t need a black box after a Homey crash, just replace the “airplane” with a new model. [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/can-we-have-a-real-homey-pro-please/28249.md?page=2)