# Brel shutters no flow card for open or closed / top or down? **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Created:** [September 9, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-shutters-no-flow-card-for-open-or-closed-top-or-down/17921 "2019-09-09T14:02:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jo\_San](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jo_san/32/3732_2.png) [@Jo\_San](https://community.homey.app/u/Jo_San)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-shutters-no-flow-card-for-open-or-closed-top-or-down/17921/1 "2019-09-09T14:02:43Z")
I have used the Brel app to manually shut/close and open my blinds. That works fine with the 2 buttons “up” and “down”. I am now trying to create flows to close the blinds automatically, but that seems not doable, there is only a flow card for “preferred position”. Anyone have experience with this app and shutters? What am I doing wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Dennis\_H74](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dennis_h74/32/11177_2.png) [@Dennis\_H74](https://community.homey.app/u/Dennis_H74)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-shutters-no-flow-card-for-open-or-closed-top-or-down/17921/2 "2019-09-09T15:34:36Z")
Dont u have status ---
**Author:** ![Jo\_San](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jo_san/32/3732_2.png) [@Jo\_San](https://community.homey.app/u/Jo_San)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 3:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-shutters-no-flow-card-for-open-or-closed-top-or-down/17921/3 "2019-09-09T15:49:46Z")
Hi Dennis, what do you mean? I only see one card related to the blinds/shutters, see this picture: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/2/2f4f7db038baf0e1724f919dbfbd404006ba8de8.jpeg) It says “go to preferred position”. Nothing else to choose. ---
**Author:** ![Dennis\_H74](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dennis_h74/32/11177_2.png) [@Dennis\_H74](https://community.homey.app/u/Dennis_H74)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-shutters-no-flow-card-for-open-or-closed-top-or-down/17921/4 "2019-09-09T16:21:45Z")
Show me how it looks when you actually sellect the brel engine when adding a card I have ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/6/6590134e9d8d387c5d3a4f558b40e22618ef0f5b.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/b/b369b4c28b3f21cd26631eaeab9b771e1f0d82fd.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/5/569bcc78e2149d3a9f9680697664722be368e7f2.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Jo\_San](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jo_san/32/3732_2.png) [@Jo\_San](https://community.homey.app/u/Jo_San)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 4:52pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-shutters-no-flow-card-for-open-or-closed-top-or-down/17921/5 "2019-09-09T16:52:11Z")
I removed the device and added it again, now I do have the options you mention. Very strange but glad it works now! The controls also look different now. ---
**Author:** ![Dennis\_H74](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dennis_h74/32/11177_2.png) [@Dennis\_H74](https://community.homey.app/u/Dennis_H74)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-shutters-no-flow-card-for-open-or-closed-top-or-down/17921/6 "2019-09-09T17:44:19Z")
weird … but glad it worked out 👍 I have 5 brel motors in 5 curtains … and is working like a charm with Homey