# Brel, bi-directioneel

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/brel-bi-directioneel/27145>\
**Category:** Apps\
**Tags:** app\
**Created:** [March 14, 2020, 9:03pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-bi-directioneel/27145 "2020-03-14T21:03:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![Harry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/harry/32/35556_2.png) [@Harry](https://community.homey.app/u/Harry)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 4:21pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-bi-directioneel/27145/83 "2021-11-23T16:21:15Z")

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Thanks Edwin, the Brel TDBU works great with the current version, I will try to install the test version

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**Author:** ![Edwin\_D](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/edwin_d/32/136417_2.png) [@Edwin\_D](https://community.homey.app/u/Edwin_D)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 1:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-bi-directioneel/27145/84 "2021-11-28T13:49:01Z")

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I’m getting a lot of crash reports from people trying to use Brel with the Motion app version 1.1.7. I do not know who they are, so I can not reach them.

Please use the above mentioned version 1.1.18 or higher of the Motion app that is currently in test, that one is fixed so it won’t crash if used with Brel hub and motors. I submitted that version for production last Thursday, but Athom is taking its time approving it.

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**Author:** ![Harry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/harry/32/35556_2.png) [@Harry](https://community.homey.app/u/Harry)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 2:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-bi-directioneel/27145/85 "2021-11-28T14:35:16Z")

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Hi Edwin, after installing the test version my app was automatically updated to 1.1.9 (4 days ago) and then to 1.2.0 on the same day.

No issues so far.

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**Author:** ![Edwin\_D](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/edwin_d/32/136417_2.png) [@Edwin\_D](https://community.homey.app/u/Edwin_D)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 2:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-bi-directioneel/27145/86 "2021-11-28T14:44:29Z")

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Yes, I had some other minor changes as well. Good to hear it all works as intended.

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**Author:** ![HPelgrum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/hpelgrum/32/49180_2.png) [@HPelgrum](https://community.homey.app/u/HPelgrum)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 12:13pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-bi-directioneel/27145/87 "2021-12-21T12:13:06Z")

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I am trying to get my Brel TDBU to work with the Motion Blinds app.  
Homey detects my TDBU but I cannot get them to move…  
I think I need the AccessToken, but I don’t know how to get it from the Brel Home App (Android).  
How do I get the AccessToken?  
Thanks for the help in advance!

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**Author:** ![Harry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/harry/32/35556_2.png) [@Harry](https://community.homey.app/u/Harry)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 1:53pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-bi-directioneel/27145/88 "2021-12-21T13:53:56Z")

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For the AccessToken you need to open the BREL HOME app. Go to the account setting (right bottom).  
Then click 5 times on the version (below Sign Out) and it will show the token. Copy it and past it in the Motion app settings in Homey.

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**Author:** ![HPelgrum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/hpelgrum/32/49180_2.png) [@HPelgrum](https://community.homey.app/u/HPelgrum)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 2:12pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-bi-directioneel/27145/89 "2021-12-21T14:12:34Z")

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Hi Harry,  
Thanks for the reply.  
I tried that already and just tried it again, even on an other phone, but that doesn’t work…

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**Author:** ![Harry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/harry/32/35556_2.png) [@Harry](https://community.homey.app/u/Harry)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 2:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-bi-directioneel/27145/90 "2021-12-21T14:36:39Z")

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![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/d/1/d1d7cc16383b70aafb14cc90f7034440f69b7f39.jpeg)

This is the version number in the Brel app. Does multiple times clicking not work?

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**Author:** ![HPelgrum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/hpelgrum/32/49180_2.png) [@HPelgrum](https://community.homey.app/u/HPelgrum)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 4:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-bi-directioneel/27145/91 "2021-12-21T16:08:56Z")

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![Screenshot_20211221-170647_Brel Home](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/e/d/ed170a386861581fc2796ca6eae6a669f4adf181.png)

This is the Android version… I clicked it many times, but no luck

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**Author:** ![Harry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/harry/32/35556_2.png) [@Harry](https://community.homey.app/u/Harry)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 4:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-bi-directioneel/27145/92 "2021-12-21T16:32:04Z")

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If found this in another form.

The key is retreived from the android app (Thanks to Brel support).  
Tap 5 times on the rightside of the photo place (4th tab).

This also works for iPhone. Same menu.

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**Author:** ![HPelgrum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/hpelgrum/32/49180_2.png) [@HPelgrum](https://community.homey.app/u/HPelgrum)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 5:22pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-bi-directioneel/27145/93 "2021-12-21T17:22:54Z")

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That’s it! Thanks!

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**Author:** ![L1HOMME](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/l1homme/32/3652_2.png) [@L1HOMME](https://community.homey.app/u/L1HOMME)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 12:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-bi-directioneel/27145/94 "2022-02-11T12:41:38Z")

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Met interesse deze info over aansturing Brel “bi directionele” motoren gelezen.  
Ik begrijp dat de wifi hub nodig is voor communicatie met homey.  
Mijn vraag moet deze van Brel zijn, zo ja maakt het type hub dan nog uit?  
Of kun je ook uit met de goedkopere motionblinds hub?

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**Author:** ![Harry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/harry/32/35556_2.png) [@Harry](https://community.homey.app/u/Harry)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 2:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-bi-directioneel/27145/95 "2022-02-11T14:02:46Z")

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I understood that both Brel hubs do work with the homey app. I will not be surprised that the motionblinds hub will work with the Brel motor. But I don’t know if someone tried it. If you have a Brel motor, I would advise to start with a BREL hub and the BREL app first. But it looks like the hardware is exactly the same. (Same type id). Maybe you can try it and return the hub if it doesn’t work.

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**Author:** ![R\_W](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/r_w/32/941_2.png) [@R\_W](https://community.homey.app/u/R_W)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 8:05am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-bi-directioneel/27145/97 "2022-03-02T08:05:26Z")

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The Brel Home App works now, (used the DD1554 hub) I added two screens and I can make them go up and down (manually) via the Devices. So far so good.  
But when I want to make a flow, there’s no Brel Home App visible in the THEN area, so I can’t make a flow?

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**Author:** ![Harry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/harry/32/35556_2.png) [@Harry](https://community.homey.app/u/Harry)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 8:32am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-bi-directioneel/27145/98 "2022-03-02T08:32:21Z")

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Are you using the Brel home app in Homey?  
You can try the motion blind app. This works for me.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Regterschot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_regterschot/32/16419_2.png) [@Peter\_Regterschot](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Regterschot)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 9:10pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-bi-directioneel/27145/99 "2022-09-20T21:10:20Z")

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Hello Edwin,  
Do you maybe now if the Brel BLE 35-10 tilt & lift bi- ditectional motor works also with the motionblinds app?

With kind regards,  
Peter

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**Author:** ![Edwin\_D](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/edwin_d/32/136417_2.png) [@Edwin\_D](https://community.homey.app/u/Edwin_D)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 6:31am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-bi-directioneel/27145/100 "2022-09-21T06:31:00Z")

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I am not affiliated with Brel nor am I in contact with them or have any of their products, so I’m not sure. But the manual suggests it uses another type of hub type DD7002B (not the small white USB hub DD1554 that Brel and Motion Blinds both use) so for this one I would guess no. Unless you know it can also be used with the DD1554 hub.

Edit: I found out the hubs are compatible, and both hubs are listed as working with the Home Assistant integration too. That uses the same API as the Homey app, so it should work indeed. Sorry for the confusion.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Regterschot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_regterschot/32/16419_2.png) [@Peter\_Regterschot](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Regterschot)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 2:00pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-bi-directioneel/27145/101 "2023-01-18T14:00:57Z")

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Bedankt

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**Author:** ![Bulletcather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bulletcather/32/13738_2.png) [@Bulletcather](https://community.homey.app/u/Bulletcather)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 9:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-bi-directioneel/27145/102 "2023-03-09T09:48:34Z")

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A new version has been made in which the hub is no longer needed for the 433 mhz roller blinds. Only the preferred position is not yet back in the software. I have already reported this to Brel.  
This makes Brel for 433mhz also suitable for Homey 2023.

> **[Brel](https://homey.app/nl-nl/app/com.brel-home.brel/Brel/)**
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> Besturing voor Brel-Home motoren.

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**Author:** ![mbnn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mbnn/32/36655_2.png) [@mbnn](https://community.homey.app/u/mbnn)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 7:10am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/brel-bi-directioneel/27145/103 "2023-05-01T07:10:35Z")

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It works however since a day I get ’ Sent too many 433 mhz commands’ even after reboot.

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