# Big disappointment - will it change?

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/big-disappointment-will-it-change/82378>\
**Category:** Questions & Help\
**Tags:** homey-pro\
**Created:** [June 15, 2023, 1:09pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/big-disappointment-will-it-change/82378 "2023-06-15T13:09:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Marek\_Elias](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/marek_elias/32/49062_2.png) [@Marek\_Elias](https://community.homey.app/u/Marek_Elias)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 3:57am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/big-disappointment-will-it-change/82378/44 "2023-06-23T03:57:15Z")

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A word of caution - I’ve read some reports about problems with Z-wave in the newest Hubitat (Can’t remember, I’m not using Z-wave so I wasn’t paying attention).  
Hubitat is also strongly oriented to U.S. market. Make sure it supports all your devices before buying.  
Hubitat’s UI is… not great. And the dashboard is downright ugly.

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**Author:** ![Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arie_j_godschalk/32/63027_2.png) [@Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://community.homey.app/u/Arie_J_Godschalk)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 5:50am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/big-disappointment-will-it-change/82378/45 "2023-06-23T05:50:28Z")

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It looks nice/okay, but you realize, it just supports 1.000 devices from 100 brands?  
Personally, i would be afraid i probably have a lot ot devices that would not be supported (atm).

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**Author:** ![Undertaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/undertaker/32/53278_2.png) [@Undertaker](https://community.homey.app/u/Undertaker)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 6:02am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/big-disappointment-will-it-change/82378/46 "2023-06-23T06:02:09Z")

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I was able to test the C-8 extensively.  
However, if you are used to Homey, you will quickly reach your limits with the Hubitat. As Arie already described, the number of devices is also limited.  
If you really want to ditch Homey, only Home Assistant offers a comparable variety of devices and functionality.  
…Homey and Home Assistant in combination and connected via MQTT is probably the absolute reference on the market at the moment.

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**Author:** ![jardak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jardak/32/78869_2.png) [@jardak](https://community.homey.app/u/jardak)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 9:02am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/big-disappointment-will-it-change/82378/47 "2023-06-23T09:02:28Z")

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Thank you for the info! That is interesting! What are the main limits of Hubitat? I’ve seen this video and he recommends to use it with HA: [You WILL Dump Home Assistant When You See This | NEW Hubitat C8 Review - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FCJV_oaBes)

The things I like about Hubitat are:

- probably reliable and works with long distance (maybe the internal antenna is an unfortunate design decision?) In the garage, sometimes there are problems with connectivity even to Fibaro 2 that has external antenna. I’m afraid with Homey it will be only worse, based on the experience so far
- they use Groovy - my favourite programming language

Btw, as seen in the video, he has the same switch as I do (just the original one, but should be the same). No problem with Hubitat and the switch. I have four of them andHomey is not able to add them to the network (while Fibaro 2 has no problems with them). So I’m not afraid about device compatibility, cannot be worse than Homey for me now.

But … Athom … maybe you will fix it??? What is this strange error “unknown command class 254”? Why only your system has problems with it?

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**Author:** ![David\_Godeschalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/david_godeschalk/32/77482_2.png) [@David\_Godeschalk](https://community.homey.app/u/David_Godeschalk)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 9:45am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/big-disappointment-will-it-change/82378/48 "2023-06-23T09:45:32Z")

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Hello Jardak,

My reasons to switch from HC3 to Homey:

- See and compare more data (easily)
- Support for more than Zwave:  
- Zigbee is working only on very little devices  
- IP devices work

Finally I got all devices to connect to the Homey (solution: keep it next to the device with the bottomside)

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**Author:** ![Joenoo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/joenoo/32/18671_2.png) [@Joenoo](https://community.homey.app/u/Joenoo)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2023, 1:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/big-disappointment-will-it-change/82378/49 "2023-06-24T13:37:13Z")

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If that particular type of switch and the missing compatibility with Homey is the only real issue, I would start thinking about not fasing Fibaro hc2 out completely and keep it online only for those switches.

I believe it is not that hard to send commands from Homey to hc2 and from hc2 you can sent webhooks to Homey.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2023, 1:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/big-disappointment-will-it-change/82378/50 "2023-06-24T13:41:28Z")

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> [@David\_Godeschalk](#):
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> solution: keep it next to the device with the bottomside

That’s the same as RTFM?

> **[Creating a stable Z-Wave network](https://support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/360012182213-Creating-a-stable-Z-Wave-network)**
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> Z-Wave is a powerful and energy-efficient smart home technology. It can offer a lot to both smart home newbies and pros, most importantly, its excellent range, extended by mesh networking.
> Minimal ...

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**Author:** ![David\_Godeschalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/david_godeschalk/32/77482_2.png) [@David\_Godeschalk](https://community.homey.app/u/David_Godeschalk)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2023, 2:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/big-disappointment-will-it-change/82378/51 "2023-06-24T14:11:30Z")

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No I don’t think so. The manual states close, which I did I put the Honey next to a device at a maximum of 1 meter. The difference with before is: I changed the distance from 1 meter to max. 10 centimeters. And most important which gave a direct change in pairing result: facing the bottom of homey at the device.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2023, 2:18pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/big-disappointment-will-it-change/82378/52 "2023-06-24T14:18:12Z")

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Yeah, “close” is not very specific, true that. To me “close” means almost touching, not one meter apart.

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**Author:** ![Frank\_Stromquist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/frank_stromquist/32/74125_2.png) [@Frank\_Stromquist](https://community.homey.app/u/Frank_Stromquist)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2023, 8:33am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/big-disappointment-will-it-change/82378/53 "2023-06-25T08:33:15Z")

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Really strange I went from Fibaro to homey also. My zwave is super stable now. Before it really sucked if I didn’t use only fibaro products. The tkm buttons had do be reinclueded every week

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