# Best way to set up matter devices

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/best-way-to-set-up-matter-devices/78917>\
**Category:** Questions & Help\
**Created:** [April 4, 2023, 3:20pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-way-to-set-up-matter-devices/78917 "2023-04-04T15:20:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Etienne\_Cointet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/etienne_cointet/32/21061_2.png) [@Etienne\_Cointet](https://community.homey.app/u/Etienne_Cointet)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 3:20pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-way-to-set-up-matter-devices/78917/1 "2023-04-04T15:20:26Z")

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**Big question around Matter! (and Homey Pro)**  
For a new project (big villa), do you recommend **to setup all the Aqara Devices** with the [official Aqara Hub](https://www.aqara.com/en/smart_hub_m2.html), then **to connect the hub with Matter to Homey**?

I am wondering, _because of Matter,_ if this is not a better idea than using the [Homey Aquara App](https://homey.app/en-us/app/com.xiaomi-mi/Aqara/).  
(pros: no compatibility issues, better support, same ecosystem, dedicated network, etc…).

I can"t make a choice with the new Homey Pro capabilities! Thanks for helping me.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/b/7b4af6262ddf5a0fcfe6b953bd55378f63d44999.jpeg)

Of course this question is opening the door “for all Matter devices, should I use the Homey Apps?”

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**Author:** ![RogerSt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rogerst/32/12432_2.png) [@RogerSt](https://community.homey.app/u/RogerSt)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 3:28pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-way-to-set-up-matter-devices/78917/2 "2023-04-04T15:28:51Z")

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The question is what you like to achieve. Two concerns.

1. Matter specification compliance of features.

- basic functionality (as per matter spec) you are free to choose either approach
- for non-standard functionality (e.g. energy meter) you have to wait until a matter-compatible homey app exists, or use the aqara hub, or do not use the functionality. Of course we could also wait until a next version of Matter starts supporting the missing device capabilities.

1. When will the matter support be implemented and when do you plan your villa to be delivered? If is not in the current firmware, nor in many/most/all? current aqara devices as far as I can assess at present.

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**Author:** ![Etienne\_Cointet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/etienne_cointet/32/21061_2.png) [@Etienne\_Cointet](https://community.homey.app/u/Etienne_Cointet)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 3:45pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-way-to-set-up-matter-devices/78917/3 "2023-04-04T15:45:07Z")

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Thanks for the quick answer @RogerSt !  
The villa will be delivered in 1.5 years, then Matter will be implemented in Homey for sure (I hope ^^). I am wondering if Homey will recommend to keep a dedicated Hub per brand (Aqara, Tuya, Philips, …) and link everything thanks to Matter. Maybe the app marketplace will die.

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 3:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-way-to-set-up-matter-devices/78917/4 "2023-04-04T15:49:01Z")

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> [@Etienne\_Cointet](#):
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> The villa will be delivered in 1.5 years, then Matter will be implemented in Homey for sure (I hope ^^).

You’re asking people to look into the future. Nobody, not even Athom, has any idea what the state of affairs will be in 1,5 years.

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> I am wondering if Homey will recommend to keep a dedicated Hub per brand (Aqara, Tuya, Philips, …) and link everything thanks to Matter. Maybe the app marketplace will die.

And maybe the Matter implementation that Homey will offer will be incomplete, just as its Zigbee and HomeKit implementations. We don’t know.

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**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 4:38am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-way-to-set-up-matter-devices/78917/5 "2023-04-05T04:38:51Z")

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This is a good question @Etienne_Cointet, so I have moved it to its own thread in the Q&A section.

Im in a similar boat, (maybe not too similar as its just a house and not a villa), and considering how to best approach everything with out locking myself out.

My plan is to make sure I have a good wired backbone of power and ethernet, (ie. power for roller binds, all in one sensors, presence sensors, outdoor cameras, door bells, light), backhaul wires for wifi mesh, locations for hubs etc.

But then worry about the actual implementation when it gets much closer, I am thinking 6 months out.

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**Author:** ![RogerSt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rogerst/32/12432_2.png) [@RogerSt](https://community.homey.app/u/RogerSt)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 5:14am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-way-to-set-up-matter-devices/78917/6 "2023-04-05T05:14:08Z")

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I don’t believe the marketplace will die. It is what makes Homey versatile, future-proof and easy to use.

As long as device capabilities exist which are not covered under the Matter standard, there is really no other way of getting full-featured device support on Homey - or any other generic smart home hub for that matter (pun intended 🤪), and we would be stuck with basic/standard control only.

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**Author:** ![Etienne\_Cointet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/etienne_cointet/32/21061_2.png) [@Etienne\_Cointet](https://community.homey.app/u/Etienne_Cointet)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 8:43am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-way-to-set-up-matter-devices/78917/7 "2023-04-05T08:43:56Z")

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To give some context, if you experienced the usage of TUYA devices, it’s the similar approach.

Any device « tuya ready » is categorized and all commands are similar (switch, status, …). If not, thanks to Tuya Cloud, you can rewrite the commands to make any non-standard device compatible.

**I am impressed by Tuya + Homebridge, and looking for the same approach Matter + Homey**.

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 8:50am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-way-to-set-up-matter-devices/78917/8 "2023-04-05T08:50:20Z")

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Have you tried Homey’s HomeKit experiment?

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**Author:** ![Etienne\_Cointet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/etienne_cointet/32/21061_2.png) [@Etienne\_Cointet](https://community.homey.app/u/Etienne_Cointet)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 10:39am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-way-to-set-up-matter-devices/78917/9 "2023-04-05T10:39:29Z")

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Yes sure! Here is my config:

Homey + Aqara App + Homekit Exp.  
Tuya (AC) + Tapo (Cameras) + Homebridge

**Then everything is centralized in Apple Home kit.**

Perfect user experience (iPhone for users, iPad for Dahsboard).

Demo video:

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/a/1/a17a73c3ef060df86d23c8a52554f458b0ec4573.gif)

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**Author:** ![Jeditrickery](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jeditrickery/32/78954_2.png) [@Jeditrickery](https://community.homey.app/u/Jeditrickery)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 3:20pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-way-to-set-up-matter-devices/78917/10 "2024-09-27T15:20:20Z")

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Absolutely! The reason being with a big home, you may quickly run out of zigbee capacity on your homey pro. I connected many of my aqara devices directly to homey, at a kit 159 devices everything slowed down and sometimes they would not fire.

My solve for this has been to convert as many devices o er to matter bridging using a secondary hub like an M2, M2 or even a Hue Bridge. I also ensure that these secondary hubs are Ethernet connected. This has resolved the problem I was having with latency. In a big villa you will run into the same problem. Also considering I have a homey bridge in my set up, this has not helped.

So yes, absolutely do this, as eventually you will run into the same problem I had with a large number of zigbee devices.
