# Best indoor Motion Sensor?

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/best-indoor-motion-sensor/29704>\
**Category:** Devices\
**Created:** [May 11, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-indoor-motion-sensor/29704 "2020-05-11T20:35:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![matrover](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/matrover/32/12112_2.png) [@matrover](https://community.homey.app/u/matrover)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-indoor-motion-sensor/29704/42 "2020-05-18T18:01:58Z")

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Well, i had some troubles with one sensor, the motion alarm didnt turn off. Considering that i have 7 of them, i swapped that one with an usb powerd one, and never had any problems again

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**Author:** ![peltsi51](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peltsi51/32/12564_2.png) [@peltsi51](https://community.homey.app/u/peltsi51)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2020, 6:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-indoor-motion-sensor/29704/43 "2020-05-18T18:06:09Z")

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Good to know. Might try the loadable batteries.

How long between the charges the multisensor work?

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**Author:** ![matrover](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/matrover/32/12112_2.png) [@matrover](https://community.homey.app/u/matrover)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 6:51am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-indoor-motion-sensor/29704/44 "2020-05-20T06:51:12Z")

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i’ve got some from ali express, so maybe with more expensiver ones it will work with that one sensor that refuses the Ali quality.

The time between charges depends on all the intervals you’ve setup and motion of course. the one in my livingroom which reports all sensors each 5 mins and has the most motion is 4 to 6 weeks on rechargeable batteries. on normal ones about 8 weeks.

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**Author:** ![dthiemann](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dthiemann/32/22673_2.png) [@dthiemann](https://community.homey.app/u/dthiemann)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 8:53pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-indoor-motion-sensor/29704/45 "2020-08-10T20:53:19Z")

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> [@robertklep](#):
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> My hacked Aqara motion sensors (5s reset) run on CR2032’s, and have been for more than a year now.

I hacked my Aqara motion also via the soldering method. The first few days I had also 5 sec reset time. But after that period it is 120 seconds again. Sounds this familiar to you @robertklep?

Mine use CR2450 battery.

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**Author:** ![JPe4619](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jpe4619/32/9017_2.png) [@JPe4619](https://community.homey.app/u/JPe4619)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 10:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-indoor-motion-sensor/29704/46 "2020-08-10T22:16:19Z")

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Bad soldering?

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 5:49am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-indoor-motion-sensor/29704/47 "2020-08-11T05:49:32Z")

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Hmm yeah mine use CR2450’s too 🥴

Assuming that the Homey device is still set to the 5-second reset (in the device settings, I think), I would also suspect bad soldering. I think I soldered one sensor and used the “pencil trick” (where you take a softish pencil and draw a line between the two soldering points) on all my others (which works fine).

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**Author:** ![dthiemann](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dthiemann/32/22673_2.png) [@dthiemann](https://community.homey.app/u/dthiemann)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 8:13am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-indoor-motion-sensor/29704/48 "2020-08-11T08:13:33Z")

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Then I need to grab a magnifying glass To check the solderings. 🤭

I was looking for other motion sensors. But there is not much choice in zigbee world. My zigbee network is very good and stable due to deCONZ. So using zwave may be an option. Maybe thinking about buying one Philips hue motion sensor to test. Unless I can get the aqara working again.

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_hoogenbosch/32/10647_2.png) [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_Hoogenbosch)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 3:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-indoor-motion-sensor/29704/49 "2020-08-11T15:08:12Z")

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Hue is zigbee too

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**Author:** ![dthiemann](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dthiemann/32/22673_2.png) [@dthiemann](https://community.homey.app/u/dthiemann)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-indoor-motion-sensor/29704/50 "2020-08-11T16:24:53Z")

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I know Martijn. But if possible I would not like to switch to zwave. Maybe for the fire alarms.

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_hoogenbosch/32/10647_2.png) [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_Hoogenbosch)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 7:54pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-indoor-motion-sensor/29704/51 "2020-08-12T19:54:40Z")

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Then I completely misunderstood your previous message, sorry for that, thought you wanted a z-wave sensor and not a zigbee. If you want to use hue motion detectors; I can tell, they work great, have 5 of them. Have them connected to deCONZ too and it just works like a charm.

Have one motion detector from Aquara and I modified my motion sensor from Aquara too, firstly tried with soldering, but that came out horribly… apparently I cannot keep my hands steady… They keep shaking. Then @robertklep advised me to use a HB pencil to draw a line from contact to contact, and that works like a charm, for months on now.

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**Author:** ![dthiemann](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dthiemann/32/22673_2.png) [@dthiemann](https://community.homey.app/u/dthiemann)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 7:07am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-indoor-motion-sensor/29704/52 "2020-08-13T07:07:07Z")

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No worries Martijn!

In the past days I searched hours for information about zigbee motion sensors. Each time again the positive messages from Hue. Also Aqara’s are mostly positive, unless hacked. Next week I will investigate mine with a magnifying glass.

About the Hue motion senstor, how did you handle the sensor to go back into idle mode? How many seconds does this take? That’s still hard to find on the internet.

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_hoogenbosch/32/10647_2.png) [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_Hoogenbosch)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 8:41am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-indoor-motion-sensor/29704/53 "2020-08-13T08:41:13Z")

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Don’t have any problems with the idle mode. Haven’t noticed it yet. I do have some issues with the zone activity… doesn’t work for me. Having the lights turn off when no activity for 5 mins means the lights won’t turn on again if someone has manually turned off the lights, so i’m not using that anymore. Other than that, no issues with idle timeout.

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_hoogenbosch/32/10647_2.png) [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_Hoogenbosch)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2020, 8:46am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-indoor-motion-sensor/29704/55 "2020-08-14T08:46:44Z")

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Can’t say I have experienced anything similar, but please open an own topic, maybe someone can help figure out what is wrong.

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**Author:** ![Otter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/otter/32/11467_2.png) [@Otter](https://community.homey.app/u/Otter)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2021, 11:52am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-indoor-motion-sensor/29704/57 "2021-02-21T11:52:39Z")

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I’ve got some aqara’s and hue motion sensors, and I’m trying to find a way to make them work properly. I have some flows with timers/countdown but it’s not there yet.

The problem is that the sensors need new motion to turn the hourglass but when I’m sitting still it doesn’t register and you have to wave or get up to detect new motion.

Are there sensors that just register if there is someone in the room and accordingly act in flows?

Came acros this [Aqara human sensor](https://www.google.com/amp/s/en.xiaomitoday.it/aqara-lumi-human-sensor.html/amp). That should do the trick?

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**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2021, 12:29pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-indoor-motion-sensor/29704/58 "2021-02-21T12:29:05Z")

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Yes, the Aqara Lumi Human Sensor should be the solution. I guess it’s a kind of presence sensor, it’s not the same like a motion sensor.

Another presence sensor I know is the [HmIP-SPI](https://de.elv.com/homematic-ip-praesenzmelder-hmip-spi-innen-150587) from Homematic. But therefore you need an Homematic Gateway like CCU2, CCU3 or RaspberryMatic in addition. The [Homematic](https://homey.app/de-de/app/de.twendt.homey.matic/Homematic/) App supports the sensor already, but I don’t know if the sensor works proper, because I do not own one.

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**Author:** ![Otter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/otter/32/11467_2.png) [@Otter](https://community.homey.app/u/Otter)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2021, 3:12pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-indoor-motion-sensor/29704/59 "2021-02-21T15:12:31Z")

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Thanks, I’d like a sensor that works directly with Homey, not another bridge 😉 but the xiaomi sensor is B2B so I dont think it will be available for purchase anytime soon? The fact that its build in the ceiling also causes some problems. Hopefully there will be other sensors in the future that detects presence and not based on motion

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**Author:** ![Joka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Joka](https://community.homey.app/u/Joka)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2021, 4:38pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-indoor-motion-sensor/29704/60 "2021-02-21T16:38:04Z")

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A different system based on thermal. I like the idea but not the design, take a look:

> [@\[APP\]\[Pro\] Hiome - (almost) perfect occupancy sensors](https://community.homey.app/t/app-hiome-almost-perfect-occupancy-sensors/30401):
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> Hello, I’d like to introduce You to some very interesting occupancy sensors - Hiome and my app which provides Hiome support for Homey. Link to AppStore: [Hiome App for Homey | Homey](https://homey.app/en-us/app/com.hiome/Hiome/) What is Hiome? Hiome is advertised as first TRUE occupancy sensors. To be honest - it’s very true. Unlike motion sensors, mobile phone wifi detection or BLE beacons/gadgets used by many of us to try to emulate occupancy sensing, these sensors do it for real! How does it work? Hiome sensors count how many persons…

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**Author:** ![Piotr\_Grochowski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/piotr_grochowski/32/9530_2.png) [@Piotr\_Grochowski](https://community.homey.app/u/Piotr_Grochowski)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-indoor-motion-sensor/29704/61 "2021-02-21T17:08:03Z")

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> [@DirkG](#):
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> Yes, the Aqara Lumi Human Sensor should be the solution. I guess it’s a kind of presence sensor, it’s not the same like a motion sensor.

No, it’s still a motion sensor, but high-precision. I use such sensors, but “classic” ones (in my alarm-system, it’s not smart-home related), they are able to detect e.g. if you sit near a desk and write on your keyboard. So such sensor doesn’t need as big movement as standard motion sensors, but still - it requires some motion. E.g. if you are sleeping without moving (e.g. in deep-sleep) such sensor would not detect your presence.

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**Author:** ![Piotr\_Grochowski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/piotr_grochowski/32/9530_2.png) [@Piotr\_Grochowski](https://community.homey.app/u/Piotr_Grochowski)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-indoor-motion-sensor/29704/62 "2021-02-21T17:11:09Z")

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> [@Otter](#):
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> Thanks, I’d like a sensor that works directly with Homey, not another bridge 😉

Such presence systems (based on calculations of people moving between rooms or zones) always require a central unit, which makes all the calculations (as data from all the sensors are needed to compile the final values).

> [@Otter](#):
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> but the xiaomi sensor is B2B so I dont think it will be available for purchase anytime soon? The fact that its build in the ceiling also causes some problems. Hopefully there will be other sensors in the future that detects presence and not based on motion

You don’t have to build it into the ceiling. It’s one of the options (you get recessor in the package), but you can also place it differently.

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**Author:** ![Piotr\_Grochowski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/piotr_grochowski/32/9530_2.png) [@Piotr\_Grochowski](https://community.homey.app/u/Piotr_Grochowski)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2021, 5:12pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/best-indoor-motion-sensor/29704/63 "2021-02-21T17:12:23Z")

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> [@Joka](#):
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> A different system based on thermal. I like the idea but not the design, take a look:

You can always use a recessed sensor instead of standard one to build it into other objects (ceiling, door frame, etc), so the sensor becomes invisible.

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