# Automatic Home/Away detection

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/automatic-home-away-detection/9226>\
**Category:** Questions & Help\
**Created:** [February 15, 2019, 12:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/automatic-home-away-detection/9226 "2019-02-15T12:06:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Nick\_Cuypers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/nick_cuypers/32/6173_2.png) [@Nick\_Cuypers](https://community.homey.app/u/Nick_Cuypers)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 12:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/automatic-home-away-detection/9226/1 "2019-02-15T12:06:56Z")

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Hi guys,

Why is the automatic home/away detection so buggy?  
Some days it works properly and some days it just doesn’t work at all.  
Some things I’m experiencing right now like every day is that Homey only checks my location(and changes presence status) when I open the mobile app(Android). This is something I experience since v2.0.  
I really like to use it with automated locks etc but I just can’t count on it right now…  
Isn’t it possible to fix it once and for all and then just don’t change it anymore? 😛

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**Author:** ![Peter\_de\_Vos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_de_vos/32/151925_2.png) [@Peter\_de\_Vos](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_de_Vos)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 12:34pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/automatic-home-away-detection/9226/2 "2019-02-15T12:34:11Z")

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Just wait for the beacon app is working again

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**Author:** ![Adrian\_Rockall](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/adrian_rockall/32/13209_2.png) [@Adrian\_Rockall](https://community.homey.app/u/Adrian_Rockall)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 12:43pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/automatic-home-away-detection/9226/3 "2019-02-15T12:43:19Z")

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But I wonder which they will get working first 🤔

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**Author:** ![Blarp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/blarp/32/10278_2.png) [@Blarp](https://community.homey.app/u/Blarp)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 12:43pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/automatic-home-away-detection/9226/4 "2019-02-15T12:43:32Z")

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What phone do you use?

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**Author:** ![Nick\_Cuypers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/nick_cuypers/32/6173_2.png) [@Nick\_Cuypers](https://community.homey.app/u/Nick_Cuypers)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 2:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/automatic-home-away-detection/9226/5 "2019-02-15T14:11:41Z")

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@Blarp Samsung S7, shouldn’t be a problem I think

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**Author:** ![Nick\_Cuypers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/nick_cuypers/32/6173_2.png) [@Nick\_Cuypers](https://community.homey.app/u/Nick_Cuypers)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 2:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/automatic-home-away-detection/9226/6 "2019-02-15T14:14:34Z")

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@Peter_de_Vos I tried other apps but they are so confusing and aren’t working properly without there own app, this was the case with Owntracks for example

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**Author:** ![Blarp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/blarp/32/10278_2.png) [@Blarp](https://community.homey.app/u/Blarp)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 3:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/automatic-home-away-detection/9226/7 "2019-02-15T15:06:56Z")

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> [@Nick\_Cuypers](#):
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> Samsung S7, shouldn’t be a problem I think

Samsung phones have their own issues as well.  
On s7 I believe there is an App power monitor? And can you disable it?  
I do not have a samsung, but it should be here: Settings \> Device maintenance \> Battery, Tap the three point icon and go to “Advanced settings” there you should be able to disable it

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**Author:** ![Blarp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/blarp/32/10278_2.png) [@Blarp](https://community.homey.app/u/Blarp)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/automatic-home-away-detection/9226/8 "2019-02-15T15:11:55Z")

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> [@Nick\_Cuypers](#):
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> I tried other apps but they are so confusing and aren’t working properly without there own app, this was the case with Owntracks for example

I can recommend this relative easy to follow guide (by @seiko) :

> [@Athom's keuze v Mobile App en verwijderen vd Desktop Interface/WEB UI in Homey v2.0.0 \[NL\]](https://community.homey.app/t/athoms-keuze-v-mobile-app-en-verwijderen-vd-desktop-interface-web-ui-in-homey-v2-0-0-nl/5348/132):
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> momenteel zit ik op V2 en heb daarvoor een zo simpel mogelijk stappenplan gemaakt. Maak 2 flows aan in de Homey app V2. flow 1: ALS een webhook is ontvangen patthuis EN een specifiek persoon is niet thuis je naam DAN Markeer als thuis je naam flow 2: ALS een webhook is ontvangen patweg EN een specifiek persoon is thuis je naam DAN Markeer als weg je naam Voor patthuis en patweg kies daarvoor je eigen naam of wat dan ook, maar zorg ervoor dat het duidelijk is voor wie weg en thuis is. Op elk…

It makes use of the Tasker app on android.

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**Author:** ![Nick\_Cuypers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/nick_cuypers/32/6173_2.png) [@Nick\_Cuypers](https://community.homey.app/u/Nick_Cuypers)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/automatic-home-away-detection/9226/9 "2019-02-15T15:55:53Z")

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@Blarp Do you use this yourself and does it work reliably?  
I develop on my own phone so I’m pretty sure if there was an app power monitor, it’s disabled.  
Otherwise, none of my own apps would work 24/7 in the background.

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**Author:** ![Blarp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/blarp/32/10278_2.png) [@Blarp](https://community.homey.app/u/Blarp)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 4:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/automatic-home-away-detection/9226/10 "2019-02-15T16:16:12Z")

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> [@Nick\_Cuypers](#):
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> Do you use this yourself and does it work reliably?

Yes I do and yes it does. (and on my wife’s phone as well)

> [@Nick\_Cuypers](#):
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> I develop on my own phone so I’m pretty sure if there was an app power monitor, it’s disabled.  
> Otherwise, none of my own apps would work 24/7 in the background.

I don’t know the specifics of what those vendor specific apps do and when, what triggers they have that make them kill other apps. I can image that it focuses on battery heavy apps, like gps using apps and leave other apps alone.  
It is easy to check if there is that samsung ‘app power monitor’ lurking around in the background, making all sorts of decisions for you that is not necessarily favorably for your use of your phone.

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**Author:** ![scanno](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/scanno/32/8358_2.png) [@scanno](https://community.homey.app/u/scanno)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 9:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/automatic-home-away-detection/9226/11 "2019-02-15T21:35:42Z")

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Owntracks can do more then a simple home/away detection. But yes it requires an additional app (opensource) on the phone to work.
