# Athom announced Homey Cloud and Homey Bridge **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Tags:** homey-bridge\ **Created:** [September 7, 2021, 5:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/athom-announced-homey-cloud-and-homey-bridge/51242 "2021-09-07T17:05:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2021, 9:40pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/athom-announced-homey-cloud-and-homey-bridge/51242/110 "2021-09-08T21:40:04Z")
Thanks. The pairing is not the worst thing (for me, but I don’t own a ranch). Repairing the restored flows is also “doable” imho. It’s a pity they changed the underlying ID’s for some flowcards, with migration to Pro in mind. So, “easy upgrading” to a Pro is not really taken into account. And is probably not expected from “starters” who’d like to migrate at some point in time. ---
**Author:** ![Henk\_van\_Munster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Henk\_van\_Munster](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_van_Munster)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2021, 9:52pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/athom-announced-homey-cloud-and-homey-bridge/51242/111 "2021-09-08T21:52:46Z")
You’re correct, I stupidly missed the “invite” part. My bad… Nevertheless, I don’t need a useless bridge. (better question, why sell an incomplete product Athom?) ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2021, 11:07pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/athom-announced-homey-cloud-and-homey-bridge/51242/112 "2021-09-08T23:07:42Z")
> [@Henk\_van\_Munster](#): > > why sell an incomplete product Athom? Well, just read the info…? > [@Dijker](#): > > Both will be available soon™ for everyone but are now in closed beta on [invite](http://beta.homey.app/ref/Ip44929174/) Beta means “testing phase” if you didn’t know already. Athom starts with enabling a few users, so any possible “big” bugs can be resolved, before publishing it to everyone. If you bought it already, you are considered to be a beta tester for now, and wait for your turn. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 5:03am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/athom-announced-homey-cloud-and-homey-bridge/51242/113 "2021-09-09T05:03:49Z")
It should have been the other way around: getting a beta invitation allows you to purchase a Bridge. Now they’re selling a product you can’t use without an invitation and they don’t tell you how long you have to wait before you can actually get one. They should have at least put a checkbox on the website before purchasing to make people acknowledge that they know they need an invitation before the Bridge will work. There are some legal implications as well, at least in NL you have a 14 day period in which you may return an online purchase (“bedenktijd”). If you can’t actually test the device because of a lack of an invitation, all you can do is return it untested. ---
**Author:** ![RogerSt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rogerst/32/12432_2.png) [@RogerSt](https://community.homey.app/u/RogerSt)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 6:20am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/athom-announced-homey-cloud-and-homey-bridge/51242/114 "2021-09-09T06:20:11Z")
> [@Dijker](#): > > **Pro Tip:** More important than ever before, Automate in a way that you can lose your Homey or in this case your Internet connection. It provides the best acceptance factor for your family. Specifically _this_ is the reason why I have doubts. Besides the random non-responsiveness of some z-wave or zigbee devices, the most annoying thing I have is the fact that my internet / wifi is not stable enough (try living near 3 apartment buildings and measure wifi signals - it’s a nightmare). Also my ISP cannot seem to fix an issue of the internet connectivity dropping ones every 2-3 weeks. And since Homey cloud needs internet connectivity… Especially with the bridge / zwave/zigbee/… I think I’ll try and hear community feedback before considering a move… For now: Homey pro… ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 6:28am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/athom-announced-homey-cloud-and-homey-bridge/51242/115 "2021-09-09T06:28:22Z")
> [@RogerSt](#): > > For now: Homey pro… Good choice. For current Pro users that could afford it and anyone that wants local automation choose your devices carefully and a Pro it the way to Go 🤩 ---
**Author:** ![DidierVU](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/didiervu/32/12458_2.png) [@DidierVU](https://community.homey.app/u/DidierVU)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 6:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/athom-announced-homey-cloud-and-homey-bridge/51242/116 "2021-09-09T06:48:59Z")
> [@RogerSt](#): > > And since Homey cloud needs internet connectivity… Especially with the bridge / zwave/zigbee/… I think I’ll try and hear community feedback before considering a move… For now: Homey pro… When using modules like Fibaro Dimmer you can still control the light with a normal switch and without internet (= happy family), that’s what @Dijker is trying to say. With Homey (Bridge or Pro) you can make it smarter; for example dim the light when turning it on at night etc. ---
**Author:** ![Magnil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/magnil/32/34348_2.png) [@Magnil](https://community.homey.app/u/Magnil)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 9:21am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/athom-announced-homey-cloud-and-homey-bridge/51242/117 "2021-09-09T09:21:45Z")
If I start with cloud/bridge and later find out that I need a Homey Pro can I migrate easily to that then? Or do I have to pair all devices etc again? ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 9:23am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/athom-announced-homey-cloud-and-homey-bridge/51242/118 "2021-09-09T09:23:00Z")
> [@Magnil](#): > > do I have to pair all devices etc again? Correct there is no migration and you need to pair and re-create flows. ---
**Author:** ![Magnil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/magnil/32/34348_2.png) [@Magnil](https://community.homey.app/u/Magnil)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 9:26am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/athom-announced-homey-cloud-and-homey-bridge/51242/119 "2021-09-09T09:26:15Z")
Thanks, not good. With about 15 zwave, 10 Zigbee, 10 Shelly, 8 Sonos devices will cloud/bridge be a good solution or do I need Pro? Hard to understand the difference really. My internet is good and always running. ---
**Author:** ![KvM](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kvm/32/6707_2.png) [@KvM](https://community.homey.app/u/KvM)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 9:35am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/athom-announced-homey-cloud-and-homey-bridge/51242/120 "2021-09-09T09:35:18Z")
If you trust on your internet connection, then I think just do the math. 399-69=330. 330/3=110 months of subscription = +/-9 years Although at this moment some apps from Homey pro are not yet available at homey bridge, and some might never be. But (almost) all devices should work right? ---
**Author:** ![DidierVU](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/didiervu/32/12458_2.png) [@DidierVU](https://community.homey.app/u/DidierVU)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 9:39am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/athom-announced-homey-cloud-and-homey-bridge/51242/121 "2021-09-09T09:39:56Z")
> [@Magnil](#): > > 15 zwave, 10 Zigbee, 10 Shelly Check [http://apps.athom.com](http://apps.athom.com) to see if all your modules are available in the cloud (select Homey beta switch on the app page) ---
**Author:** ![JJ.Jan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jj.jan/32/44605_2.png) [@JJ.Jan](https://community.homey.app/u/JJ.Jan)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 9:41am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/athom-announced-homey-cloud-and-homey-bridge/51242/122 "2021-09-09T09:41:08Z")
I even doubt how long time they will keep Homey Pro on the list. (as most of Homey Pro functions can be replaced by Homey Cloud. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RogerSt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rogerst/32/12432_2.png) [@RogerSt](https://community.homey.app/u/RogerSt)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 9:41am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/athom-announced-homey-cloud-and-homey-bridge/51242/123 "2021-09-09T09:41:28Z")
Thanks @DidierVU I get that. But since my environment is quite mixed (Around 30 ZWave, 30 Zigbee, many IP devices, a few IR devices, a few RF devices) I feel that I need to - EITHER have a much more reliable internet + wifi connection - OR hear about other people’s experience first. I only have around 12 Fibaro devices, and that’s too limited from domotica point of view. Staying on Homey Pro for now. Good luck!! 🙂 Best, Roger ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 9:43am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/athom-announced-homey-cloud-and-homey-bridge/51242/124 "2021-09-09T09:43:45Z")
> [@JJ.Jan](#): > > I even doubt how long time they will keep Homey Pro on the list. (as most of Homey Pro functions can be replaced by Homey Cloud. Pls read here: > [@The new Homey & Homey Bridge FAQ](https://community.homey.app/t/the-new-homey-homey-bridge-faq/51291/1): > > **Will Homey Pro require a subscription or cloud connectivity?** > **Homey Pro will not change.** It’s our flagship product, that works completely offline, and you buy it once and don’t have to pay a recurring fee. ---
**Author:** ![Henrik\_Johnsson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henrik_johnsson/32/13707_2.png) [@Henrik\_Johnsson](https://community.homey.app/u/Henrik_Johnsson)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 10:08am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/athom-announced-homey-cloud-and-homey-bridge/51242/125 "2021-09-09T10:08:18Z")
> [@JJ.Jan](#): > > as most of Homey Pro functions can be replaced by Homey Cloud I think you’ll find that a lot of things do not run on Cloud, and I doubt Athom has ever intended for most of those things to run on Cloud. Cloud will almost certainly always be a subset of the functionality of the Pro. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 10:14am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/athom-announced-homey-cloud-and-homey-bridge/51242/126 "2021-09-09T10:14:58Z")
> [@KvM](#): > > If you trust on your internet connection, then I think just do the math. No. A Pro has way more possibilities. It’s a stripped down Pro. > [@KvM](#): > > 399-69=330. 330/3=110 months of subscription = +/-9 years IF monthly fee stays €3. In a few years (price index etc.) it could be €4 or €5 and on (_which is not strange, this happens everywhere_) Or the contract reads it is €3/month lifetime 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 10:20am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/athom-announced-homey-cloud-and-homey-bridge/51242/127 "2021-09-09T10:20:19Z")
Amen. ---
**Author:** ![Emile](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/emile/32/115314_2.png) [@Emile](https://community.homey.app/u/Emile)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 11:03am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/athom-announced-homey-cloud-and-homey-bridge/51242/128 "2021-09-09T11:03:46Z")
We’ve sold a LOT of bridges, but we want to scale gradually so everyone gets a great experience. So it might take some time before you get an invite. Luckily, even when it’s breathing blue, it’s quite nice to look at 😉 ---
**Author:** ![rampage](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rampage/32/2121_2.png) [@rampage](https://community.homey.app/u/rampage)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 11:24am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/athom-announced-homey-cloud-and-homey-bridge/51242/129 "2021-09-09T11:24:18Z")
Is there a significantdelay between a (sensor) trigger and the action? Like with IFTTT? [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/athom-announced-homey-cloud-and-homey-bridge/51242.md?page=5) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/athom-announced-homey-cloud-and-homey-bridge/51242.md?page=7)