# Associations and how they work? **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Created:** [May 21, 2019, 9:51am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/associations-and-how-they-work/13442 "2019-05-21T09:51:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![David\_K](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/david_k/32/10319_2.png) [@David\_K](https://community.homey.app/u/David_K)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 7:12pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/associations-and-how-they-work/13442/21 "2019-05-22T19:12:50Z")
I somehow thought FGS-2x3 is sending action “switch pressed” or “alarm on” and then receiving side will decide what to do. I was obviously wrong. 😄 This way it’s inevitable for sending device to be somehow “blind” let’s say and to send off to already off device and similar. Pitty… ---
**Author:** ![vaderag](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/vaderag/32/150_2.png) [@vaderag](https://community.homey.app/u/vaderag)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 8:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/associations-and-how-they-work/13442/22 "2019-11-01T20:37:54Z")
Can I pick up this, I really need a n00bs guide. I want to use an S2 input on a Dimmer 2 to set an association to 4 other dimmer 2s I see how to set an association, but I just don’t know where to begin. How do I find out what I’m associating to? How to I know which group field to put it in? ---
**Author:** ![PascalB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dbc845/32.png) [@PascalB](https://community.homey.app/u/PascalB)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 10:19pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/associations-and-how-they-work/13442/23 "2019-11-01T22:19:02Z")
Start by reading the manual of the Fibaro Dimmer2, there you can find the association groups and how to use them ---
**Author:** ![vaderag](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/vaderag/32/150_2.png) [@vaderag](https://community.homey.app/u/vaderag)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2019, 11:31am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/associations-and-how-they-work/13442/24 "2019-11-02T11:31:00Z")
I already did that and it really sheds no light 4th Association group is apparently On/Off of S2 but it doesn’t tell me what to put in there, how I find out what I’d to associate it with etc etc?? ---
**Author:** ![vaderag](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/vaderag/32/150_2.png) [@vaderag](https://community.homey.app/u/vaderag)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2019, 11:41am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/associations-and-how-they-work/13442/25 "2019-11-02T11:41:37Z")
Okay, I think I’ve got somewhere there, I’ve addee the device IDs that I got from the advanced settings page separated by a comma, but only 3 of my 5 lights are responding (including the device itself)… Any ideas ---
**Author:** ![vaderag](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/vaderag/32/150_2.png) [@vaderag](https://community.homey.app/u/vaderag)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2019, 3:22pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/associations-and-how-they-work/13442/26 "2019-11-04T15:22:54Z")
Just double checked and “Dimmer 2 in 2nd to 5th group allows to control 8 regular or multichannel devices per an association group” So I shouldnt have any issue with adding the 5 devices… anyone?? Please? ---
**Author:** ![Osorkon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/osorkon/32/43026_2.png) [@Osorkon](https://community.homey.app/u/Osorkon)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2019, 4:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/associations-and-how-they-work/13442/27 "2019-11-04T16:08:49Z")
- Are all 5 Switches you want to associate to the Fibaro Dimmer 2, also all Fibaro Dimmer 2? - Are all devices include Secure? - Are the 2 not working Switches maybe out of range? ---
**Author:** ![vaderag](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/vaderag/32/150_2.png) [@vaderag](https://community.homey.app/u/vaderag)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2019, 5:52pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/associations-and-how-they-work/13442/28 "2019-11-04T17:52:21Z")
Thanks for replying! All are Dimmer 2 All are in range (they’re all in the same box) about 2m from Homey Presumably all include Secure (they were all added together in the same manner) If I change the order I can get the other ones to work, but only 3 every time 😔 ---
**Author:** ![Osorkon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/osorkon/32/43026_2.png) [@Osorkon](https://community.homey.app/u/Osorkon)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2019, 5:55pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/associations-and-how-they-work/13442/29 "2019-11-04T17:55:35Z")
if you turn off homey, then also only 3 devices are switched? ---
**Author:** ![vaderag](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/vaderag/32/150_2.png) [@vaderag](https://community.homey.app/u/vaderag)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2019, 9:17pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/associations-and-how-they-work/13442/30 "2019-11-04T21:17:09Z")
Good question. Just tried and same ---
**Author:** ![Osorkon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/osorkon/32/43026_2.png) [@Osorkon](https://community.homey.app/u/Osorkon)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 8:41am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/associations-and-how-they-work/13442/31 "2020-05-02T08:41:57Z")
It’s Loks like as long the Dimmer 2 is included Secure no Associations are working. After include the Dimmer 2 Unsecure, everything works fine. I tested it with a Philio Smart Color Button and with Fibaro Motion Sensor. 😀 [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/associations-and-how-they-work/13442.md?page=1)