# Apple Users with Homey. A few questions? Also curious your thoughts **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Created:** [May 11, 2025, 10:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/apple-users-with-homey-a-few-questions-also-curious-your-thoughts/136373 "2025-05-11T22:15:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Player2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/fbc32d/32.png) [@Player2](https://community.homey.app/u/Player2)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 10:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/apple-users-with-homey-a-few-questions-also-curious-your-thoughts/136373/1 "2025-05-11T22:15:47Z")
So I am thinking of moving my smart home over to the following setup. Apple Homekit for individual device and voice control (via Siri) and Homey to handle all of the primary automatons. I am still a little confused with how Homey works with Apple. So really curious to hear how people with a similar setup are liking it. What issues have you run into. My main questions are around the two apps I see for Apple Homekit 1. The first app is either the Homey Experiment or Home Kitty. What this does is any device that you have in Homey can be pushed to Apple HomeKit for direct control. Are there any limitations here? Like are any devices not able to work in Apple that work in Homey. The two that I have that I am most curious about are Ring Doorbells and Nest Thermostats. 2. The second app I see is ‘HomeKit Controller’ the way I understand this is that you can use this app to pair any Homekit Compatible device to Homey. So let’s say I want to get an Aqara lock ( Smart Lock U100) that does not require an Aqara Hub as it can pair directly with an Apple Hub. Will this app allow me to integrate the Lock into Homey, even though this device is not showing as supported under the Aqara app? I hope that makes sense. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Ruurd\_van\_der\_Noord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ruurd_van_der_noord/32/71093_2.png) [@Ruurd\_van\_der\_Noord](https://community.homey.app/u/Ruurd_van_der_Noord)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 3:40pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/apple-users-with-homey-a-few-questions-also-curious-your-thoughts/136373/2 "2025-05-12T15:40:53Z")
With some help from [Perplexity](https://www.perplexity.ai/search/some-has-the-question-below-ha-uJYZ.2a8STmMQUBayjHNRg) AI I found that: You’re considering a setup where Apple HomeKit is used for direct device control and voice (Siri), while Homey handles your automations. You’re also looking at two main Homey integrations with HomeKit: the HomeKit Experiment (or HomeKitty) to push Homey devices into Apple Home, and HomeKit Controller to bring HomeKit devices into Homey. Here’s a clear breakdown of how these work, their limitations, and how your specific devices (Ring Doorbell, Nest Thermostat, Aqara Lock U100) fit in. ## Homey → Apple HomeKit: HomeKit Experiment / HomeKitty **How it works:** - The HomeKit Experiment (or HomeKitty app) exposes most Homey-connected devices to Apple HomeKit. This means you can see and control these devices from the Apple Home app and via Siri[3](https://support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/360024237434-Enabling-the-Apple-HomeKit-Experiment)[14](https://www.addtohomekit.com/blog/athom-homey-pro/). - Setup is straightforward: enable the experiment in Homey settings, pair Homey with Apple Home using a PIN, and your devices appear in HomeKit[3](https://support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/360024237434-Enabling-the-Apple-HomeKit-Experiment)[14](https://www.addtohomekit.com/blog/athom-homey-pro/). **Limitations and Issues:** - **Device Type Support:** Not every device or every function is perfectly mapped. Some device types or advanced features may not show up or may have limited functionality in HomeKit. For example: - **Ring Doorbell:** When pushed to HomeKit via HomeyKit/HomeKitty, it typically only appears as a motion sensor, not as a camera or a full-featured doorbell. This is because HomeKit expects a specific device class, and Homey may expose the Ring as a generic sensor. Full camera/doorbell features are not available unless the app developer specifically maps them[5](https://community.homey.app/t/homekit-ring-doorbell/72407). - **Nest Thermostat:** Nest is not natively HomeKit compatible. If you connect it to Homey and then to HomeKit, you’ll likely get only basic functionality (like temperature control), with advanced features (fan, eco mode, etc.) missing. This is a limitation of HomeKit’s device model and the way Nest exposes its features[6](https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeKit/comments/1btm0rf/nest_thermostat_and_homekit_integration/). - **Device Sync Issues:** Sometimes, new devices added to Homey do not automatically appear in HomeKit. A workaround is to disable and re-enable the HomeKit connection, but this may require reconfiguring devices in HomeKit[2](https://community.homey.app/t/new-devices-not-showing-up-in-homekit/120153)[11](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-homekitty-aka-homeykit-3-0/72824). - **General Reliability:** Most users find the integration stable for common device types (lights, switches, sensors), but quirks remain for more complex devices[1](https://community.homey.app/t/new-user-questions-about-homekit-integration/115461)[4](https://community.homey.app/t/experiences-homeykit-vs-homekit-experimental/6648)[14](https://www.addtohomekit.com/blog/athom-homey-pro/). ## Apple HomeKit → Homey: HomeKit Controller **How it works:** - The HomeKit Controller app for Homey allows you to pair HomeKit-compatible devices directly with Homey, making them available for automations and control in Homey[7](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-homekit-controller-for-a-better-homey/94520)[12](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-homekit-controller-for-a-better-homey/94520?page=3). - This is useful for devices that are HomeKit-only or do not have direct Homey support. **Aqara Lock U100 Example:** - The Aqara U100 can pair directly with Apple Home without an Aqara hub[8](https://www.aqara.com/en/product/smart-lock-u100/). - Using HomeKit Controller, you should be able to add the U100 to Homey, even if it’s not supported by the Aqara app for Homey[7](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-homekit-controller-for-a-better-homey/94520)[9](https://community.homey.app/t/apple-users-with-homey-a-few-questions-also-curious-your-thoughts/136373). - The process: Pair the lock with HomeKit, then use HomeKit Controller in Homey to discover and add the lock using its HomeKit PIN[7](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-homekit-controller-for-a-better-homey/94520). - **Caveat:** Not every function of the lock may be exposed-HomeKit Controller supports a wide range of services, but some vendor-specific features might not be available immediately[7](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-homekit-controller-for-a-better-homey/94520). Core features like lock/unlock and status should work. ## Device-Specific Notes - **Ring Doorbell:** Only shows as a motion sensor in HomeKit via Homey; no camera or doorbell features[5](https://community.homey.app/t/homekit-ring-doorbell/72407). - **Nest Thermostat:** Limited control in HomeKit (e.g., temperature only), advanced features not available[6](https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeKit/comments/1btm0rf/nest_thermostat_and_homekit_integration/). - **Aqara U100 Lock:** Can be added to Homey via HomeKit Controller even if not supported by Aqara app, but some advanced features may not be exposed[7](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-homekit-controller-for-a-better-homey/94520)[9](https://community.homey.app/t/apple-users-with-homey-a-few-questions-also-curious-your-thoughts/136373). ## General Advice - For the most seamless experience, use Homey for automations and Apple HomeKit for direct control and Siri, as you plan. - Expect some limitations with complex devices-check community forums for device-specific workarounds or updates. - HomeKit Controller is increasingly robust, but always confirm that your must-have features are supported for each device. If you have more specific devices in mind check [device](https://homey.app/en-us/apps/homey-pro/) compatibility lists for the latest support status. If your goal is advanced automation, broad device compatibility, and still having seamless Apple Home/Siri control, then installing apps and devices directly on Homey Pro, then exposing them to Apple HomeKit (using the HomeKit Experiment or HomeKitty), is generally the most flexible and robust solution for most users in your situation. ## Why This Approach Is Often Better - **Centralized Automation:** Homey Pro offers far more powerful and flexible automation (Flows, Advanced Flows) than Apple HomeKit alone[1](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-homekit-controller-for-a-better-homey/94520?page=3)7. By installing all your devices and relevant apps on Homey, you can leverage these advanced features for all your devices-regardless of their native HomeKit compatibility. - **Device Support:** Homey Pro supports a much wider range of devices and protocols (Zigbee, Z-Wave, IR, RF, etc.) than Apple HomeKit, which is limited to devices with official HomeKit (or Matter) support27. Devices that aren’t natively supported by Apple can still be controlled via Homey, then exposed to HomeKit for Siri and Home app control[5](https://www.addtohomekit.com/blog/athom-homey-pro/)7. - **Local Control:** Devices paired directly to Homey Pro are typically controlled locally, offering faster response times and greater reliability than cloud-based integrations2. - **Unified Interface:** Once devices are on Homey, you can choose which ones to expose to Apple HomeKit. This means your Apple Home app and Siri can still be your main control interface, but Homey handles the logic and device management[3](https://support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/360024237434-Enabling-the-Apple-HomeKit-Experiment)[5](https://www.addtohomekit.com/blog/athom-homey-pro/)7. ## How It Works 1. **Install devices and apps on Homey Pro.** Pair all your smart home devices with Homey, using the appropriate Homey apps for each brand or protocol7. 2. **Enable the HomeKit Experiment or HomeKitty.** This exposes your Homey devices to Apple HomeKit, letting you control them from the Apple Home app and via Siri[3](https://support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/360024237434-Enabling-the-Apple-HomeKit-Experiment)[5](https://www.addtohomekit.com/blog/athom-homey-pro/)7. 3. **Automate in Homey, control via Apple.** Use Homey’s advanced automation for routines, but keep Apple Home/Siri as your main user interface for everyday control[1](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-homekit-controller-for-a-better-homey/94520?page=3)[4](https://community.homey.app/t/newbie-question-regarding-new-homey-pro-existing-homeket-setup/134264)[8](https://community.homey.app/t/apple-users-with-homey-a-few-questions-also-curious-your-thoughts/136373). ## Limitations and Considerations - **Device Mapping:** Not all device types or features are perfectly represented in HomeKit when exposed via Homey (e.g., some sensors may show up as generic devices, cameras may lack video streaming)[6](https://www.reddit.com/r/homey/comments/1b2a6ri/if_i_buy_a_homey_pro_do_i_have_to_my_current/)7. - **HomeKit Experiment is Beta:** The HomeKit integration is still considered experimental, so while it works well for most, occasional quirks or missing features can occur[5](https://www.addtohomekit.com/blog/athom-homey-pro/)7. - **Thread/Matter Support:** Homey Pro is adding support for newer standards like Thread and Matter, but not all features/devices may be fully supported yet7. ## User Experiences Many users with similar setups have reported that moving automations to Homey while keeping Apple Home as the main interface provides the best of both worlds: advanced automation and broad device compatibility, with the convenience of Siri and the Apple Home app for daily use[1](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-homekit-controller-for-a-better-homey/94520?page=3)[4](https://community.homey.app/t/newbie-question-regarding-new-homey-pro-existing-homeket-setup/134264)[8](https://community.homey.app/t/apple-users-with-homey-a-few-questions-also-curious-your-thoughts/136373). ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Verbeek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martin_verbeek/32/10641_2.png) [@Martin\_Verbeek](https://community.homey.app/u/Martin_Verbeek)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 3:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/apple-users-with-homey-a-few-questions-also-curious-your-thoughts/136373/3 "2025-05-12T15:51:01Z")
Be aware that Homekit Controller only supports wifi based devices ---
**Author:** ![Player2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/fbc32d/32.png) [@Player2](https://community.homey.app/u/Player2)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 5:10pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/apple-users-with-homey-a-few-questions-also-curious-your-thoughts/136373/4 "2025-05-12T17:10:32Z")
Thanks. That is an important note. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Verbeek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martin_verbeek/32/10641_2.png) [@Martin\_Verbeek](https://community.homey.app/u/Martin_Verbeek)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 5:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/apple-users-with-homey-a-few-questions-also-curious-your-thoughts/136373/5 "2025-05-12T17:16:30Z")
Matter will connect to Homey directly Thread and BLE are the problematic ones ---
**Author:** ![Don\_Brown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/don_brown/32/120935_2.png) [@Don\_Brown](https://community.homey.app/u/Don_Brown)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2026, 5:39pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/apple-users-with-homey-a-few-questions-also-curious-your-thoughts/136373/6 "2026-03-11T17:39:38Z")
I’m trying to bring in a couple of Airversa air filters. The app used to manage them is by Sleekpoint. They are HomeKit air purifiers running over thread. I can’t seem to get the Homekit Controller app to recognize them. I out in the HomeKit 8 digit code, to no avail. This app doesn’t see anything on my thread network. Maybe it’s looking on the wrong thread network? Is there a better app for pulling in Homekit specific accessories into Homey? I’m not interested in replacing them for the sake of integration. They work fine. ---
**Author:** ![smarthomesven](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/smarthomesven/32/79712_2.png) [@smarthomesven](https://community.homey.app/u/smarthomesven)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2026, 6:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/apple-users-with-homey-a-few-questions-also-curious-your-thoughts/136373/7 "2026-03-11T18:47:49Z")
They appear to use Bluetooth (according to the mobile app’s description). ![Screenshot_20260311_194531_Google Play Store](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/f/4/f4e6a236ea319eb8f52e662f596f5e0100051319.jpeg) This means that an app for the device would be required. You can request an app here: > [@\[Requests\] Homey Pro Community App Requests](https://community.homey.app/t/requests-homey-pro-community-app-requests/2713): > > Homey Pro Community App Requests Welcome to the Homey Pro Community app request topic. This topic is to centralize all app requests for Homey Pro Apps, made by the community. (This does not account for app(s) for Homey (bridge), only for the Homey Pro, as Athom only wants apps made by brands or by themselves.) For Requests at Athom please use the Official link in the Appstore, see the description in this Topic: [[Requests] Official Homey App and Device Request](https://community.homey.app/t/requests-official-homey-app-and-device-request/103771) The more information that you… ---
**Author:** ![Don\_Brown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/don_brown/32/120935_2.png) [@Don\_Brown](https://community.homey.app/u/Don_Brown)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2026, 1:45pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/apple-users-with-homey-a-few-questions-also-curious-your-thoughts/136373/8 "2026-03-12T13:45:38Z")
Thanks for the quick response. I have a different model of the Airvesa, the AP2 model. It is an Apple Home certified model using Thread to communicate with the Apple Home hub. I’ve attached three screenshots which should show what you need. I’ll also request this as a Homey App. If you have other suggestions, kindly let me know. ![IMG_0643](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/b/a/ba251445a5f766e72fd71cde424c0f877d14d3da.png) ![IMG_0644.PNG](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/4/a/4a4a23df13fecbbef1770a15e4f6dbd45d52c4b5.jpeg) ![IMG_0642](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/f/4/f4d90298cad8c73c49a45c921d8b101bc967a822.png) ---
**Author:** ![JMDPC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jmdpc/32/121098_2.png) [@JMDPC](https://community.homey.app/u/JMDPC)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2026, 2:07pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/apple-users-with-homey-a-few-questions-also-curious-your-thoughts/136373/9 "2026-03-12T14:07:15Z")
I’m doing almost the same thing. I use Hue bulbs, Caseta switches, and most of my other devices are Matter over Thread, plus a few Shelly devices. I have a Homey self-hosted server. I pair my Hue, Caseta, and Matter devices with both Apple Home and Homey. Then, I use the Homey Matter app to share the Shelly devices back to Apple Home. I also use Homekitty to share my grouped and virtual devices back to Apple Home, making it easier to run Flows from them. I’ve just started testing FlowStarter, and it works well too.