# \[APP\] Qubino - Turn any home into a smart home with Qubino

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/app-qubino-turn-any-home-into-a-smart-home-with-qubino/55354>\
**Category:** Apps\
**Tags:** app, z-wave\
**Created:** [November 24, 2021, 3:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-qubino-turn-any-home-into-a-smart-home-with-qubino/55354 "2021-11-24T15:14:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Caseda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caseda/32/138695_2.png) [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 3:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-qubino-turn-any-home-into-a-smart-home-with-qubino/55354/41 "2022-04-24T15:14:13Z")

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It isn’t the app that forces the unsecure inclusion, it is Homey itself since firmware v7, as there were many people with communication issues of devices included on S0.

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**Author:** ![Osorkon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/osorkon/32/43026_2.png) [@Osorkon](https://community.homey.app/u/Osorkon)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 3:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-qubino-turn-any-home-into-a-smart-home-with-qubino/55354/42 "2022-04-24T15:15:52Z")

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So, @smeula icluded the remote before v7?

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**Author:** ![Osorkon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/osorkon/32/43026_2.png) [@Osorkon](https://community.homey.app/u/Osorkon)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 3:18pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-qubino-turn-any-home-into-a-smart-home-with-qubino/55354/43 "2022-04-24T15:18:56Z")

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@smeula what kind of remote do you use. Some devices has the capability to set up how the communication (associations) between devices works, secure or not secure.

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**Author:** ![smeula](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/smeula/32/9729_2.png) [@smeula](https://community.homey.app/u/smeula)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 3:19pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-qubino-turn-any-home-into-a-smart-home-with-qubino/55354/44 "2022-04-24T15:19:14Z")

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Yes I included the remote before v7, same for the other devices that the remote controls

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**Author:** ![smeula](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/smeula/32/9729_2.png) [@smeula](https://community.homey.app/u/smeula)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 3:21pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-qubino-turn-any-home-into-a-smart-home-with-qubino/55354/45 "2022-04-24T15:21:04Z")

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It’s a robb smarrt 4 channel remote

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**Author:** ![smeula](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/smeula/32/9729_2.png) [@smeula](https://community.homey.app/u/smeula)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 3:56pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-qubino-turn-any-home-into-a-smart-home-with-qubino/55354/46 "2022-04-24T15:56:16Z")

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Maybe easiest is to change the remote? What remotes support both secure and unsecure configurations simulateously?

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**Author:** ![Osorkon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/osorkon/32/43026_2.png) [@Osorkon](https://community.homey.app/u/Osorkon)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 5:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-qubino-turn-any-home-into-a-smart-home-with-qubino/55354/47 "2022-04-24T17:35:28Z")

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The easiest way would be to re pair your existing one or at minimum the cheapest one.

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**Author:** ![smeula](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/smeula/32/9729_2.png) [@smeula](https://community.homey.app/u/smeula)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 6:09pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-qubino-turn-any-home-into-a-smart-home-with-qubino/55354/48 "2022-04-24T18:09:13Z")

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Is it also the case then that following fm v7 any new device I add in future will also be added unsecure, ie homey has basically dropped support for S0 then? Pretty inconsiderate move, requires us all to re-pair devices that may be hard to access ….

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**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 8:47am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-qubino-turn-any-home-into-a-smart-home-with-qubino/55354/49 "2022-04-25T08:47:30Z")

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> [@smeula](#):
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> Is it also the case then that following fm v7 any new device I add in future will also be added unsecure, ie homey has basically dropped support for S0 then?

As @Caseda already wrote, S0 devices are forced for unsecure inclusion.  
But with FW v7 the security standard S2 (Unauthenticated / Authenticated (with PIN)) was released. Devices that support S2 are now also included as S2, which was not the case before.  
With the already mentioned app UnZ-Cure from the Community App Store, it is possible to ignore the S2 standard and include S2 devices unsecure.

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**Author:** ![Fix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fix/32/49185_2.png) [@Fix](https://community.homey.app/u/Fix)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 12:55pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-qubino-turn-any-home-into-a-smart-home-with-qubino/55354/50 "2022-05-12T12:55:05Z")

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Hi !

Do you have news about ZMNHJD integration ?

Ty !

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**Author:** ![alborz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/alborz/32/48173_2.png) [@alborz](https://community.homey.app/u/alborz)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-qubino-turn-any-home-into-a-smart-home-with-qubino/55354/51 "2022-06-17T19:24:35Z")

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Any updates??? Can you keep us somewhat in the loop of your time plans! We´re probably a bunch of people eager for the pending improvements for your products that don´t live up to advertised expectations…

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**Author:** ![Stefan\_1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/stefan_1/32/128096_2.png) [@Stefan\_1](https://community.homey.app/u/Stefan_1)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 8:00am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-qubino-turn-any-home-into-a-smart-home-with-qubino/55354/52 "2022-06-23T08:00:26Z")

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Does someone knows if the workaround for reliable zwave connection of the 3 phase meter ZMNHXD in this article is still nescessary?

Does the meter do the job well right now?

> **[No data received to Homey from 3 Phase Smart Meter](https://support.qubino.com/support/solutions/articles/44002302222)**
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> The reported issue  It looks that more customers experience report loss between the 3 Phase Smart Meter and the Homey gateway. We decide to test it with three pieces of the 3 Phase Smart Meter in a Homey gateway. The distance between the...

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**Author:** ![alborz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/alborz/32/48173_2.png) [@alborz](https://community.homey.app/u/alborz)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 8:17am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-qubino-turn-any-home-into-a-smart-home-with-qubino/55354/53 "2022-06-23T08:17:49Z")

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I have not experienced any issue, I believe I had some troubles in the beginning when there was a greater distance between the two units but since I moved the homey closer I haven´t had any problem

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**Author:** ![Stefan\_1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/stefan_1/32/128096_2.png) [@Stefan\_1](https://community.homey.app/u/Stefan_1)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 9:07am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-qubino-turn-any-home-into-a-smart-home-with-qubino/55354/54 "2022-06-23T09:07:57Z")

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Thanx, in the flow cards I can’t take the power as a trigger, is this right? Has somebody experiences with that in a flow?

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/1/8/18f7dbbb51ba520452714b0d19723e00fd572282.png)

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/e/7/e79a5696b946e5b62c16c5ee7ba3c095c770859c.png)

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**Author:** ![alborz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/alborz/32/48173_2.png) [@alborz](https://community.homey.app/u/alborz)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 9:56am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-qubino-turn-any-home-into-a-smart-home-with-qubino/55354/55 "2022-06-23T09:56:04Z")

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Hm not sure what you mean … I can create flows but they are pretty much useless to me

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**Author:** ![Stefan\_1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/stefan_1/32/128096_2.png) [@Stefan\_1](https://community.homey.app/u/Stefan_1)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 10:30am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-qubino-turn-any-home-into-a-smart-home-with-qubino/55354/56 "2022-06-23T10:30:32Z")

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Thank you,

using the power consumption to control things: in a flow to control photovoltaik current to the e car, washing machine and so on. but therefor at least status card is necessary.

someone knows **how to handle the current messurement** 3 phase smart meter **in a flow?**

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**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 7:32am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-qubino-turn-any-home-into-a-smart-home-with-qubino/55354/57 "2022-08-17T07:32:47Z")

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Hi @Stefan_1,  
I’m also interested in the 3-phase smart meter.  
Have you had your own experiences in the meantime?  
Is the workaround you mentioned still necessary?

Btw., the compatibility page says this:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/4/74949d7ac8f90da6f6f49941da95ec2704cb889f.png)

Accordingly, these capabilities should be able to be used in a flow.  
Have you checked if these capabilities are listed in the Athom Developer page ([Athom Developer Tools](https://tools.developer.homey.app/tools/devices) → devices → Smart Meter device (name of the device))?  
If so, maybe you could create a workaround with the [Device Capabilities](https://homey.app/en-us/app/nl.qluster-it.DeviceCapabilities/Device-Capabilities/) app.  
Something like this:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/0/c/0c97d9cd332a2a2b1482b8fccbe2c1d4b72baf1b.png)

@QubinoHelp, could you please add the same action cards as for the 1-phase smart meter?

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/b/2/b21f5644d5706d2bbfd80ed0f60827f5c11b209b.jpeg)

@QubinoHelp, are you still active in the forum?

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**Author:** ![Stefan\_1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/stefan_1/32/128096_2.png) [@Stefan\_1](https://community.homey.app/u/Stefan_1)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 9:44am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-qubino-turn-any-home-into-a-smart-home-with-qubino/55354/58 "2022-08-17T09:44:13Z")

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Hi @DirkG,

I’m fully happy with the 3 phase meter. The problem is, that the [Qubino-app-page](https://homey.app/de-de/app/com.qubino/Qubino/) doesn’t show all the cards in the app-overview page, crazy. But there are many in real life! Without workaround it’s possible to manage the device. To handle it with the app “[power by the hour](https://homey.app/de-de/app/com.gruijter.powerhour/Power-by-the-Hour/)” there has to be a workarround via grouping and virtual device). Example for 1 phase:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/0/8/0819dc5b172a0089cdf0b535bcbf0104fa9189a9.png)

And some more for all the three phases.

I would it buy again (with display for service reasons). There is no other solution within this price even if you have to set a repeater in the basement for zwave.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/f/1/f180bcc47852737ace3538deed99e724bfda76c2.png)

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/d/1/d191975feee4facc7428931e8a74b0e1621ee8d0.png)

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/3/a/3afea901b510ea2d94d46ed345b679146a0d647a.png)

I don’t think power factor is correct (a technical data to messure phase incorrections, should not be 0,5)

Greets

Stefan

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**Author:** ![Caseda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caseda/32/138695_2.png) [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 9:53am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-qubino-turn-any-home-into-a-smart-home-with-qubino/55354/59 "2022-08-17T09:53:01Z")

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Looking at your reactive power value, then the power factor is correct.

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**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 10:47am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-qubino-turn-any-home-into-a-smart-home-with-qubino/55354/60 "2022-08-17T10:47:11Z")

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Thank you very much for your detailed answer. Then I will also buy the 3-phase smart meter.

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