# \[APP\]\[Pro\] Virtual Devices - Virtual Devices to simulate 1 or more real devices **URL:** \ **Category:** Apps\ **Tags:** app, virtual-device, homey-pro\ **Created:** [September 15, 2018, 3:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-virtual-devices-virtual-devices-to-simulate-1-or-more-real-devices/1723 "2018-09-15T15:49:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Kalle\_Kronbeck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kalle_kronbeck/32/13158_2.png) [@Kalle\_Kronbeck](https://community.homey.app/u/Kalle_Kronbeck)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 1:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-virtual-devices-virtual-devices-to-simulate-1-or-more-real-devices/1723/71 "2019-06-10T13:15:08Z")
Thanks for a perfect app ! I have some mqtt tags I want to publish as sensors. No problem with alot of values but I cant find any that can show text. In this case I would like to get a tag from my weatherstation with barometer trend last 3 hours. Lools like this: {“barotrend”:“Falling slowly”} I am parsing other values so thats no problem, only need a sensor that accept text. ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_Oeverhaus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/erik_oeverhaus/32/11178_2.png) [@Erik\_Oeverhaus](https://community.homey.app/u/Erik_Oeverhaus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 2:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-virtual-devices-virtual-devices-to-simulate-1-or-more-real-devices/1723/72 "2019-06-10T14:05:49Z")
Hi, I got a small question. I just installed Virtual Devices to use the geofencing from HomeKit. That looks all to work fine. But while I was trying some stuff out I made another virtual device. But I can not delete that virtual device in homekit. It is deleted in Homey, but it still shows up on my iPhone in the HomKit app. Has someone an idea on how to delete the Virtual Device from homekit? Thanks, ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_Oeverhaus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/erik_oeverhaus/32/11178_2.png) [@Erik\_Oeverhaus](https://community.homey.app/u/Erik_Oeverhaus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 2:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-virtual-devices-virtual-devices-to-simulate-1-or-more-real-devices/1723/74 "2019-06-10T14:37:34Z")
Hi Roy, I tried it in HomeKit, but I can’t find a way to delete the one accessory (Virtual Device). Unless I delete Homey and all other accessories… ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_Oeverhaus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/erik_oeverhaus/32/11178_2.png) [@Erik\_Oeverhaus](https://community.homey.app/u/Erik_Oeverhaus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 4:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-virtual-devices-virtual-devices-to-simulate-1-or-more-real-devices/1723/75 "2019-06-10T16:25:03Z")
I found the solution, I had to restart Homey… Simpel as that… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Otter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/otter/32/11467_2.png) [@Otter](https://community.homey.app/u/Otter)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 9:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-virtual-devices-virtual-devices-to-simulate-1-or-more-real-devices/1723/76 "2019-06-19T21:14:47Z")
is it possible to make a virtual device by selecting a group of lights, controlling it as a whole? i can add all the options as I would when adding a Hue light but how do I get it to correspond to the whole group? ---
**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 1:57am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-virtual-devices-virtual-devices-to-simulate-1-or-more-real-devices/1723/77 "2019-06-20T01:57:04Z")
That would be a Group rather then a Virtual Device 🙂 [https://apps.athom.com/app/com.swttt.devicegroups](https://apps.athom.com/app/com.swttt.devicegroups) * * * However if you want to use the Virtual Devices it is actually flexible enough to do it - you just need to create a virtual device - and then create a flow for every action which triggers the devices you want - set the value of them to the value of the virtual device. ---
**Author:** ![Otter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/otter/32/11467_2.png) [@Otter](https://community.homey.app/u/Otter)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 6:53am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-virtual-devices-virtual-devices-to-simulate-1-or-more-real-devices/1723/78 "2019-06-20T06:53:15Z")
so many apps and devices 😉 thanks for helping. Works like I described as for philips hue colour lights, the white ambiance can’t be added?! ---
**Author:** ![Otter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/otter/32/11467_2.png) [@Otter](https://community.homey.app/u/Otter)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 6:55am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-virtual-devices-virtual-devices-to-simulate-1-or-more-real-devices/1723/79 "2019-06-20T06:55:21Z")
as for using the virtual device app, that means creating tonnes of flows just to trigger a different state the bulb is in? with 15 lights in the living room thats a rather big task ahead… should be nice to just have such a function on the virtual devices app! ---
**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 7:13am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-virtual-devices-virtual-devices-to-simulate-1-or-more-real-devices/1723/80 "2019-06-20T07:13:44Z")
It should work with the white ambiance with out any issues (make sure you include light\_mode capability). Rather then ‘take over’ the Virtual Devices (VD) thread with Group questions you should ask in the group thread. > [@\[APP\]\[Pro\] \< group \> (3.2.4 - Stable)](https://community.homey.app/t/app-group-2-3-1-stable-2-4-2-beta/3168): > > \< group \> With this app you can group devices with the same capabilities as one device. This means you an control multiple devices from the one place. The general approach for this application is to keep things as simple as possible, especially for the default device classes. (light, sockets, etc). To do anything other then these simple operations please use the advance (other) groups. [Donate](https://PayPal.Me/peakej)[Help me buy a homey to create this and other apps on.](https://PayPal.Me/peakej) Please note that this app now only supports v… And yes in order to do this with the VD app it does mean creating lots and lots of flows full of lots of actions. (Its why we have the group app). I cant speak as to what new features will be added to VD but I can say the group app v2 took ridiculous amount of limited spare time to develop and test. And I can say generally speaking each Homey app will do one thing, and one thing only. VD handles virtual switches and devices, Group handles the grouping devices. I suspect that one day Athom will add simple grouping directly to homey as they did with virtual devices. ---
**Author:** ![KonradWalsh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/konradwalsh/32/147_2.png) [@KonradWalsh](https://community.homey.app/u/KonradWalsh)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 7:13am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-virtual-devices-virtual-devices-to-simulate-1-or-more-real-devices/1723/81 "2019-06-20T07:13:52Z")
> [@Otter](#): > > 15 lights in the living room thats a rather big task ahead thats a rather big living room! 🤣🤣🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Otter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/otter/32/11467_2.png) [@Otter](https://community.homey.app/u/Otter)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 7:17am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-virtual-devices-virtual-devices-to-simulate-1-or-more-real-devices/1723/82 "2019-06-20T07:17:57Z")
some spots in the kitchen, some lightstrips, a diningtable with 4 lights, some ceiling lights, a few hue go, and some standing lights here and there. not that big of a deal 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Otter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/otter/32/11467_2.png) [@Otter](https://community.homey.app/u/Otter)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 7:21am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-virtual-devices-virtual-devices-to-simulate-1-or-more-real-devices/1723/83 "2019-06-20T07:21:38Z")
thanks for elaborating! it should be nice for Athom to someday implement a lot of these functions/apps but thats for another time and place. Thanks for introducing me to \< group \> that solves a lot, i’ll have a look at light\_mode. I thought i checked all the boxes therefore it should recognize all the lights. Only the coloured lights are shown. I have 10 gu10 spots none of them are recognized. I’ll have a look later on, you’ll hear from me ---
**Author:** ![KonradWalsh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/konradwalsh/32/147_2.png) [@KonradWalsh](https://community.homey.app/u/KonradWalsh)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 7:29am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-virtual-devices-virtual-devices-to-simulate-1-or-more-real-devices/1723/84 "2019-06-20T07:29:53Z")
ah… you said 15 in the living room… Ok that makes sense… Was imagining a living room as a bright as the sun 🤣🤣 Anyway… sorry… ignore me ---
**Author:** ![Otter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/otter/32/11467_2.png) [@Otter](https://community.homey.app/u/Otter)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 7:37am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-virtual-devices-virtual-devices-to-simulate-1-or-more-real-devices/1723/85 "2019-06-20T07:37:09Z")
well, my kitchen is part of the living room and most of the lights are for indirect lighting 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Berrie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/berrie/32/12410_2.png) [@Berrie](https://community.homey.app/u/Berrie)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 12:18am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-virtual-devices-virtual-devices-to-simulate-1-or-more-real-devices/1723/86 "2019-07-06T00:18:20Z")
Is there a device available which uses the uiComponent “picker”? ---
**Author:** ![Viking42](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/viking42/32/12687_2.png) [@Viking42](https://community.homey.app/u/Viking42)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 8:38pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-virtual-devices-virtual-devices-to-simulate-1-or-more-real-devices/1723/87 "2019-07-27T20:38:16Z")
Hi, Really sorry to ask such a basic question I wanted to learn virtual devices and started with temperature. I have a few temperature meters -wanted to get the actual room temperature in a Thermostat.– I have been reading this over and over > **[Virtual Devices](https://arjankranenburg.github.io/virtual-devices/sensor.html)** > > Homey-app to add Virtual Devices that can trigger your flows. But im just overwhelmed, did not found more precisions in this post. I created a vd with temperature meter type I went in flows In “when” i put edit: my actual meter/ temperature changed In “then” i put “set a virtual value” First card measure\_temperature Second card my temp meter actual temp . Feels like a puzzle where i have to find all kind of missing parts 😢 ---
**Author:** ![Viking42](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/viking42/32/12687_2.png) [@Viking42](https://community.homey.app/u/Viking42)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 9:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-virtual-devices-virtual-devices-to-simulate-1-or-more-real-devices/1723/89 "2019-07-27T21:14:56Z")
Hi, Thanks but you just added a new info to the puzzle, @RoyWissenburg is this the “when” card to use or just an example showing what a label is? So the “when” is not the virtual device but a logic?? So i took the logic “when a variable changed” / select an item ,but them i got an empty list “no results” A step by step would be really helpfull, this guessing game is tiresome ---
**Author:** ![Viking42](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/viking42/32/12687_2.png) [@Viking42](https://community.homey.app/u/Viking42)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 9:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-virtual-devices-virtual-devices-to-simulate-1-or-more-real-devices/1723/92 "2019-07-27T21:27:51Z")
– the actual room temperature in a Thermostat.– Like in > **[Virtual Devices](https://arjankranenburg.github.io/virtual-devices/sensor.html)** > > Homey-app to add Virtual Devices that can trigger your flows. ---
**Author:** ![Viking42](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/viking42/32/12687_2.png) [@Viking42](https://community.homey.app/u/Viking42)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 9:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-virtual-devices-virtual-devices-to-simulate-1-or-more-real-devices/1723/94 "2019-07-27T21:49:59Z")
Thanks, but deeper in details, less conceptual Can you just tell me if this is correct? created a vd with temperature meter type I went in flows In “when” i put edit: my actual meter / temperature changed with tag temperature In “then” / virtual device / i put “set a virtual value” First tag: measure\_temperature Second tag: my temp meter “temperature” ---
**Author:** ![Viking42](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/viking42/32/12687_2.png) [@Viking42](https://community.homey.app/u/Viking42)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 11:10pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-virtual-devices-virtual-devices-to-simulate-1-or-more-real-devices/1723/97 "2019-07-27T23:10:20Z")
Thanks, got the logic Somehow it doesnt work, no update of my vd value ![chrome](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/4/43ac4df864de6bd1a58ece2c72997c9a5082bf4c.jpeg) [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-virtual-devices-virtual-devices-to-simulate-1-or-more-real-devices/1723.md?page=3) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-virtual-devices-virtual-devices-to-simulate-1-or-more-real-devices/1723.md?page=5)