# \[APP\]\[Pro\] sysInternals - Shows Homey’s System Internals **URL:** \ **Category:** Apps\ **Tags:** app, homey-pro, homey-pro-2023\ **Created:** [March 30, 2023, 5:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-sysinternals-shows-homey-s-system-internals/78650 "2023-03-30T17:37:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Wout-1976](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/wout-1976/32/175413_2.png) [@Wout-1976](https://community.homey.app/u/Wout-1976)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2023, 7:50am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-sysinternals-shows-homey-s-system-internals/78650/102 "2023-06-04T07:50:11Z")
It is mainly intended for the temperature. I noticed that the values ​​​​of the temperature alternately give an update. Sometimes this takes several days. Because I am experimenting with a separate PC fan on the Homey, I would like to be able to read the values ​​properly. The card from System gives me only a option to restart Homey, not an invidual app. ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2023, 7:59am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-sysinternals-shows-homey-s-system-internals/78650/103 "2023-06-04T07:59:56Z")
> [@Wout-1976](#): > > The card from System gives me only a option to restart Homey, not an invidual app. Moved in 23 to apps ![Screenshot_20230604_095700_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/b/7/b76d5fd8126da9c2dedec24e6636e938a16b8fcc.jpeg) Is the temperature updating here? And the load? > **[Homey Developer Tools](https://tools.developer.homey.app/tools/system)** I see some issues in sysInternals after restarting Homey it doesn’t update. Pls make as workaround a flow homey is restarted delayed restart sysInternals . Guess restarting sysInternals after 60 seconds or so will work ---
**Author:** ![Wout-1976](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/wout-1976/32/175413_2.png) [@Wout-1976](https://community.homey.app/u/Wout-1976)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2023, 8:07am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-sysinternals-shows-homey-s-system-internals/78650/104 "2023-06-04T08:07:42Z")
Found the card in apps. Thanks! Temperature is updating in developer tools. But how is the load called in developer tools? ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2023, 8:14am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-sysinternals-shows-homey-s-system-internals/78650/105 "2023-06-04T08:14:56Z")
> [@Wout-1976](#): > > load called in developer tools? loadavg ---
**Author:** ![Wout-1976](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/wout-1976/32/175413_2.png) [@Wout-1976](https://community.homey.app/u/Wout-1976)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2023, 8:23am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-sysinternals-shows-homey-s-system-internals/78650/106 "2023-06-04T08:23:58Z")
Haha ofcourse. Yes it does update. ---
**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2023, 6:34am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-sysinternals-shows-homey-s-system-internals/78650/108 "2023-06-06T06:34:23Z")
Hi @Dijker , would you have any idea please why on HP23 loadaverage5m and loadaverage15m are missing from insights ? When I enabled influxdb integration, data are obviously there just not being drawn ? ![obrazek](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/3/e/3ebff6fc7b10ac648991886d8c7b0f6e969b5199.png) Also I can’t get sysinternal to update storage data and total memory - it was updated 14 days ago (storage) and 2 months ago total mem. I tried reinstalling but makes no difference. I sent you some diagnostics in the past, not sure you noticed or you saw there anything. Can I help with troubleshooting this anyhow ? ---
**Author:** ![Undertaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/undertaker/32/53278_2.png) [@Undertaker](https://community.homey.app/u/Undertaker)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2023, 6:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-sysinternals-shows-homey-s-system-internals/78650/109 "2023-06-06T06:48:12Z")
The total memory cannot change unless you do the CM 4 mod. After a restart of Homey, the app must also be restarted, then it provides the data. I have built a tile with Device Capabilities that shows all the data relevant to me. ![Screenshot_20230606-084740_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/9/8/98396fb565c61570ccf350efc1b2e295172b1149.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2023, 7:04am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-sysinternals-shows-homey-s-system-internals/78650/110 "2023-06-06T07:04:31Z")
> [@Undertaker](#): > > The total memory cannot change unless you do the CM 4 mod. Exactly. Yet it did not change obviously 😉 > [@Undertaker](#): > > After a restart of Homey, the app must also be restarted, then it provides the data. Yep, have a flow for that… ![obrazek](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/5/a/5a7bd3257b856ff157657d283c4eb04252c2d630.png) ---
**Author:** ![RonnyW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronnyw/32/10879_2.png) [@RonnyW](https://community.homey.app/u/RonnyW)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2023, 11:57am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-sysinternals-shows-homey-s-system-internals/78650/111 "2023-06-06T11:57:14Z")
I asked again on Slack to add a bew trigger “Homey and all aps were started”. Let’s hope it gets added to not depend on flow delays 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 8:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-sysinternals-shows-homey-s-system-internals/78650/112 "2023-06-07T20:24:18Z")
> [@Undertaker](#): > > After a restart of Homey, the app must also be restarted, then it provides the data. > [@RonnyW](#): > > trigger “Homey and all aps were started”. Seems that thanks to this app restart needed, trigger ![obrazek](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/a/9/a95ef650e43d28b4dfae8ccb95937c8ac3c7657f.png) actually do not work ;-( Someone is using it, can you confirm ? ---
**Author:** ![OH2TH](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/oh2th/32/111414_2.png) [@OH2TH](https://community.homey.app/u/OH2TH)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 4:28am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-sysinternals-shows-homey-s-system-internals/78650/113 "2023-06-15T04:28:22Z")
Agreed, doesn’t trigger. ---
**Author:** ![Wout-1976](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/wout-1976/32/175413_2.png) [@Wout-1976](https://community.homey.app/u/Wout-1976)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 8:02am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-sysinternals-shows-homey-s-system-internals/78650/114 "2023-06-21T08:02:05Z")
More people having this problem? Every night at almost te same time Homey Pro 2023 is low on free memory \<20%. Already reported it at Athom. ![Schermafbeelding 2023-06-21 om 09.53.09](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/9/a/9adc8f316f840e4d223a2741cc2ed2314fec537c.png) ---
**Author:** ![Undertaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/undertaker/32/53278_2.png) [@Undertaker](https://community.homey.app/u/Undertaker)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 9:52am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-sysinternals-shows-homey-s-system-internals/78650/115 "2023-06-21T09:52:24Z")
This is normal ! I assume that you have subscribed to backups. If a backup is running at night, Homey needs between 10-15% of the working memory. If your memory is only 25-30% in normal operation, you will get the error message when the backup starts. ---
**Author:** ![Wout-1976](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/wout-1976/32/175413_2.png) [@Wout-1976](https://community.homey.app/u/Wout-1976)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 10:09am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-sysinternals-shows-homey-s-system-internals/78650/116 "2023-06-21T10:09:04Z")
Ok thanks. I dont have to worry 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Wout-1976](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/wout-1976/32/175413_2.png) [@Wout-1976](https://community.homey.app/u/Wout-1976)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2023, 7:30pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-sysinternals-shows-homey-s-system-internals/78650/117 "2023-06-25T19:30:16Z")
Euhm … but here is no backup involved: ![IMG_3400.PNG](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/6/8/68c3a053dea04f2fc0c8502b8e456324b687787d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Undertaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/undertaker/32/53278_2.png) [@Undertaker](https://community.homey.app/u/Undertaker)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2023, 7:52pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-sysinternals-shows-homey-s-system-internals/78650/118 "2023-06-25T19:52:24Z")
This happens regularly every 2 hours in your case. I can’t say at a distance what is causing this. If your apps are already using close to 80% of the memory, triggering a flow can reduce the memory to the point where your RAM drops below 20%. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 1:07am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-sysinternals-shows-homey-s-system-internals/78650/119 "2023-06-26T01:07:47Z")
> [@Dijker](#): > > sysInternals gives a warning when Homey’s Free memory drops below 20% Just know that Homey can’t have much more before fe Extra Apps will refuse to start. I’m curious, what’s the number of apps you have installed? I run 40 apps on a Pro 2019 with 1GB RAM ---
**Author:** ![Wout-1976](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/wout-1976/32/175413_2.png) [@Wout-1976](https://community.homey.app/u/Wout-1976)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 5:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-sysinternals-shows-homey-s-system-internals/78650/120 "2023-06-26T17:49:27Z")
44 apps on a Pro 2023 with 1.5 GB memory used of total 2.0 GB. Could it be a problem that i use twice Home Assistant? I use the Athom version and the Comunnity store version. Did not have time to reduce it to one connection with Home Assistant. ---
**Author:** ![Ranney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/848f3c/32.png) [@Ranney](https://community.homey.app/u/Ranney)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 8:30pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-sysinternals-shows-homey-s-system-internals/78650/121 "2023-06-26T20:30:48Z")
Maybe just reduce the limit for low memory message from 20% to 5%? It has SWAP if there is not enough RAM. If it works en give no problems, then it is just ‘a number’? ---
**Author:** ![Wout-1976](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/wout-1976/32/175413_2.png) [@Wout-1976](https://community.homey.app/u/Wout-1976)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 7:01pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-sysinternals-shows-homey-s-system-internals/78650/123 "2023-06-27T19:01:49Z")
Think i found the problem. I restarted sysInternals every 2 hours because i thought it would be better for updating the data. Don’t judge but it is what it is. And after deleting the flow for this the problem with low on free memory is gone and never showed so far. @Dijker could many restarts of your app be a problem for the free memory? [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-sysinternals-shows-homey-s-system-internals/78650.md?page=5) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-sysinternals-shows-homey-s-system-internals/78650.md?page=7)