# \[APP\]\[PRO\] Smart Presence - Presence detection based on smartphones connected to your Wi-Fi **URL:** \ **Category:** Apps\ **Tags:** app\ **Created:** [August 20, 2020, 6:09am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-smart-presence-presence-detection-based-on-smartphones-connected-to-your-wi-fi/33794 "2020-08-20T06:09:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 6:31pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-smart-presence-presence-detection-based-on-smartphones-connected-to-your-wi-fi/33794/473 "2026-01-27T18:31:26Z")
Just FYI, shall be fixed as per confirmation from Athom… ---
**Author:** ![naehle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/naehle/32/79073_2.png) [@naehle](https://community.homey.app/u/naehle)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2026, 9:58am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-smart-presence-presence-detection-based-on-smartphones-connected-to-your-wi-fi/33794/474 "2026-02-11T09:58:52Z")
I have an issue with the triggers “first\_household\_member\_arrived“ and “last\_household\_member\_left“probably not firing correctly. This ist the timelime: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/4/7/47be82f88df2fc3154344da6f5a4d286c60fc19d.png) and this my latest status: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/f/3/f327dfa1ca617cd6e00e702516944ee76063f089.png) However, the above mentioned triggers appear not to have fired, because the Heimdal alarm system is still activated and deactivated, respectively, which should of course not be the case in the cases “first\_household\_member\_arrived“ and “last\_household\_member\_left“. Could this be a bug in the app, or am I doing something wrong? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![itised83](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/itised83/32/146391_2.png) [@itised83](https://community.homey.app/u/itised83)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2026, 6:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-smart-presence-presence-detection-based-on-smartphones-connected-to-your-wi-fi/33794/475 "2026-02-17T18:11:12Z")
Hi, a simple question. Where do I add devices in the app? ---
**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2026, 6:20pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-smart-presence-presence-detection-based-on-smartphones-connected-to-your-wi-fi/33794/476 "2026-02-17T18:20:35Z")
> [@naehle](#): > > Could this be a bug in the app, or am I doing something wrong? Hard to say but nobody else complains on that so could be your flows - best is to have simple trigger to test desided behavior, eg. First household member arrived → Send notification ---
**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2026, 6:21pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-smart-presence-presence-detection-based-on-smartphones-connected-to-your-wi-fi/33794/477 "2026-02-17T18:21:47Z")
> [@itised83](#): > > Where do I add devices in the app? Simply as you would be adding any other device ---
**Author:** ![itised83](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/itised83/32/146391_2.png) [@itised83](https://community.homey.app/u/itised83)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2026, 6:33pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-smart-presence-presence-detection-based-on-smartphones-connected-to-your-wi-fi/33794/478 "2026-02-17T18:33:15Z")
Found, thanks. I thought it was in the app options or something. ---
**Author:** ![naehle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/naehle/32/79073_2.png) [@naehle](https://community.homey.app/u/naehle)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 8:46pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-smart-presence-presence-detection-based-on-smartphones-connected-to-your-wi-fi/33794/479 "2026-02-26T20:46:57Z")
sorry to bother you again. I created the following test flow, which basically loops after “last household member left” until “somebody is at home” is false. However, even 2 minutes apparently are not long enough for this to happen. Only using “last household member left” for activating Heimdal wasn’t accurate enough, that´s why I added this double check…. Any suggestion on where my mistake is? ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/2/1/21e6d7540e4a5274ce1e4e328ba55fcbedfabc68.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2026, 6:02am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-smart-presence-presence-detection-based-on-smartphones-connected-to-your-wi-fi/33794/480 "2026-02-27T06:02:08Z")
If you would like to analyze how it behaves, only use SIMPLE trigger “last household member left” → send me notification (eg. to app). Then you can play with the timings for every device if needed (eg. Away period, Stress period etc). The reason for complexity of your Test flow - sorry, I don’t follow, maybe some other community member can advise. Also keep in mind that Heimdall has its own “Aways/Delays” settings. Also one more tip - I’m using Wifi/SmartPresence detection but in combination with the Geo-fencing detection of Homey directly, it works quite well in this combo. ---
**Author:** ![naehle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/naehle/32/79073_2.png) [@naehle](https://community.homey.app/u/naehle)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2026, 8:43pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-smart-presence-presence-detection-based-on-smartphones-connected-to-your-wi-fi/33794/481 "2026-03-02T20:43:26Z")
Thanks for your tips! And I should add that I found the error in my flow “Somebody” in “Somebody is at home” is not referring to the same population as ““Last family member” left, which is anybody vs. family…. so everything it running fine ever since. ---
**Author:** ![DDC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ddc/32/121102_2.png) [@DDC](https://community.homey.app/u/DDC)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2026, 7:09am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-smart-presence-presence-detection-based-on-smartphones-connected-to-your-wi-fi/33794/482 "2026-04-07T07:09:00Z")
Hello, I use this app. Since a few weeks I do get an apple email, always around 4am at night stating: your Apple Account is used to log in at iCloud via a webbrowser. Could this be this app? ---
**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2026, 7:30am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-smart-presence-presence-detection-based-on-smartphones-connected-to-your-wi-fi/33794/483 "2026-04-07T07:30:30Z")
> [@DDC](#): > > Could this be this app? Definitevely not. ---
**Author:** ![DDC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ddc/32/121102_2.png) [@DDC](https://community.homey.app/u/DDC)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2026, 8:03am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-smart-presence-presence-detection-based-on-smartphones-connected-to-your-wi-fi/33794/484 "2026-04-07T08:03:48Z")
Weird, i have a strong LastPass password and 2FA. I just changed my password again. Thanks for the quick reply. ---
**Author:** ![christian\_hoog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/christian_hoog/32/72742_2.png) [@christian\_hoog](https://community.homey.app/u/christian_hoog)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 7:31pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-smart-presence-presence-detection-based-on-smartphones-connected-to-your-wi-fi/33794/485 "2026-04-08T19:31:27Z")
I’m having an issue with my girlfriends new iPhone. I’ve been using smart presence for a month now. Prior to this new phone smart presence was perfectly working (i was testing with simple notifications ‘if person leaves’ and ‘if person arrives’). Now however it doesn’t. I checked all settings (private mac is off, same IP-adress as her old phone, this old phone is set to factory reset and already sold, so no conflicts possible). I already tried adding a new device and restarting smart presence. It just doesn’t show up as online or offline. Does anyone have some tips? ---
**Author:** ![Daniel\_Fille](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daniel_fille/32/15219_2.png) [@Daniel\_Fille](https://community.homey.app/u/Daniel_Fille)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 11:59pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-smart-presence-presence-detection-based-on-smartphones-connected-to-your-wi-fi/33794/486 "2026-06-04T23:59:41Z")
It is probably the ”Find my app” you have that installed? ---
**Author:** ![Caesar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caesar/32/88727_2.png) [@Caesar](https://community.homey.app/u/Caesar)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 8:24am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-smart-presence-presence-detection-based-on-smartphones-connected-to-your-wi-fi/33794/487 "2026-06-20T08:24:39Z")
I use this also to have a status of my printers if they are online or if they dropped offline. I currently use the guest type for this use case. Can we have an additional category for devices? it doesn’t/shouldn’t influence the status of the aggregated “people” presence logics. ---
**Author:** ![4x4\_Pete](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/4x4_pete/32/113286_2.png) [@4x4\_Pete](https://community.homey.app/u/4x4_Pete)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 4:54am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-smart-presence-presence-detection-based-on-smartphones-connected-to-your-wi-fi/33794/488 "2026-06-21T04:54:15Z")
Hi @Sharkys I recently came across some strange behaviour when a person leaves and returns back again some minutes before the end of the absence detecion period: - The returning person is immediately registered as present, what is ok and expected. - But a view minutes later the absence event is triggered by former absence, what is annoying. - Strange thing is, that despite the absence trigger (When) the And card says that the person is present (not absent). I built a test environment (When cards + Log, nothing else) but could not reproduce it although in “production” it happens fairly often. My guess is that this only happens within a certain time window… I started to notice this with some very old version. Went to the test version and it got worse: The rogue absence trigger came with a delay of approx 60 - 90 minutes. Went to 0.9.5 and the rogue absence trigger comes approx right after the absence detection period. Could you pls have a look at this? Btw: I love that you changed the device type to “sensor” in the test version! ---
**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 5:27am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-smart-presence-presence-detection-based-on-smartphones-connected-to-your-wi-fi/33794/489 "2026-06-21T05:27:24Z")
Well, not sure about that, as there are apps like [NetScan](https://homey.app/en-us/app/com.netscan/Net-Scan/) exactly for this purpose, can you elaborate a little about that additional cathegory ? It wouldn’t be “Presense” sensing anymore, right… ---
**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 5:28am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-smart-presence-presence-detection-based-on-smartphones-connected-to-your-wi-fi/33794/490 "2026-06-21T05:28:47Z")
Can you support this finding also by logs please ? Ideally after App restart (so it includes your config) and then later, when you observe this behaviour, including the device/phone name in the debug message… ---
**Author:** ![Caesar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caesar/32/88727_2.png) [@Caesar](https://community.homey.app/u/Caesar)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 5:46am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-smart-presence-presence-detection-based-on-smartphones-connected-to-your-wi-fi/33794/491 "2026-06-21T05:46:58Z")
NetScan is exactly what I was trying to achieve. Thank you for pointing me to it. ---
**Author:** ![4x4\_Pete](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/4x4_pete/32/113286_2.png) [@4x4\_Pete](https://community.homey.app/u/4x4_Pete)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 6:38am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-smart-presence-presence-detection-based-on-smartphones-connected-to-your-wi-fi/33794/492 "2026-06-21T06:38:10Z")
Shure. But I am currently travelling and it might take some weeks until I can do intensive testing again. [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-smart-presence-presence-detection-based-on-smartphones-connected-to-your-wi-fi/33794.md?page=23) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-smart-presence-presence-detection-based-on-smartphones-connected-to-your-wi-fi/33794.md?page=25)