# \[APP\]\[Pro\] Power by the Hour: Insights per hour, day, month and year

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535>\
**Category:** Apps\
**Tags:** app, tools\
**Created:** [November 10, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535 "2019-11-10T22:06:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 2:30pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/1922 "2023-11-30T14:30:57Z")

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PBTH will use Energy (meter\_power) as source of it calculations. So in this screenshot that has a value of 2132.33 kWh. As long as all 3 phases are represented (totalized) in this figure ,all should be good.

As alternative you can switch on ‘use Watt as source’ in advanced device settings. This will use Power (measure\_power) as source. In the screenshot it has a value of 443.85W.

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**Author:** ![Matti\_Hirvonen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/matti_hirvonen/32/79184_2.png) [@Matti\_Hirvonen](https://community.homey.app/u/Matti_Hirvonen)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 3:03pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/1923 "2023-11-30T15:03:55Z")

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Numbers still won’t make sense. “This hour 1501,74kwh”.  
This is closer to whole month consumption

 ![image.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/d/b/db1109cd1b30fbf236ac04f393c95b1c716fd100.png)

to 30. marrask. 2023 klo 16.41 Robin Gruijter via Homey Community Forum ([notifications@athom.discoursemail.com](mailto:notifications@athom.discoursemail.com)) kirjoitti:

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 3:19pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/1924 "2023-11-30T15:19:42Z")

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Did the kWh meter of the Shelly source dip previous hour? You can e.g. see that in the energy Insights of past 24 hours.

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**Author:** ![Matti\_Hirvonen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/matti_hirvonen/32/79184_2.png) [@Matti\_Hirvonen](https://community.homey.app/u/Matti_Hirvonen)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 3:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/1925 "2023-11-30T15:41:43Z")

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I created device today. Heres insights of Shelly and PBTH

 ![image.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/b/9/b99d349955660c033a4b3bc13869071140f171cf.png)

to 30. marrask. 2023 klo 17.29 Robin Gruijter via Homey Community Forum ([notifications@athom.discoursemail.com](mailto:notifications@athom.discoursemail.com)) kirjoitti:

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 3:56pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/1926 "2023-11-30T15:56:44Z")

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> [@Matti\_Hirvonen](#):
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> I created device today.

Ah. You have no patience then…  
Just wait for tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Matti\_Hirvonen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/matti_hirvonen/32/79184_2.png) [@Matti\_Hirvonen](https://community.homey.app/u/Matti_Hirvonen)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 4:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/1927 "2023-11-30T16:24:24Z")

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Ok. Thx! 😅

to 30. marrask. 2023 klo 18.06 Robin Gruijter via Homey Community Forum ([notifications@athom.discoursemail.com](mailto:notifications@athom.discoursemail.com)) kirjoitti:

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**Author:** ![Yestond](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/yestond/32/9807_2.png) [@Yestond](https://community.homey.app/u/Yestond)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 2:12pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/1928 "2023-12-01T14:12:27Z")

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> [@Yestond](#):
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> @Gruijter Thanks for helping out an imbecile like me 😃  
> Can you make the same example with price markups as well I just cant seem to get the logic right 😂  
> So say for example:  
> 24-6 = raw price  
> 6-17 = +0.2  
> 17-21 = +0.4  
> 24-6 = +0.2

Got time for an example here @Gruijter 😇

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 2:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/1929 "2023-12-01T14:37:34Z")

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Not really. You already have all the ingredients to experiment yourself.

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**Author:** ![Yestond](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/yestond/32/9807_2.png) [@Yestond](https://community.homey.app/u/Yestond)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 7:22am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/1930 "2023-12-02T07:22:27Z")

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Ok?  
Probably would have taken you less time to write the example than the answer you gave 🤷🏻‍♂️  
Anyway… Can someone else help me?  
Just an example of prices changes 3 times a day for variable markup. I can’t get the logic right 🫣

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 7:49am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/1931 "2023-12-02T07:49:29Z")

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My son wanted me to tie his shoes this morning. I said: look son, you are 20 years old. I expect you to put in some effort and do it yourself!  
After throwing a tantrum he tried, and succeeded. He is now very proud of himself.  
(True story 🤞😇)

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**Author:** ![Yestond](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/yestond/32/9807_2.png) [@Yestond](https://community.homey.app/u/Yestond)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 8:13am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/1932 "2023-12-02T08:13:48Z")

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Fun story. Heartwarming. Not helpful 😂

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**Author:** ![Ronald\_van\_Keulen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronald_van_keulen/32/2828_2.png) [@Ronald\_van\_Keulen](https://community.homey.app/u/Ronald_van_Keulen)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 1:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/1933 "2023-12-02T13:04:51Z")

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Hi all, Who knows to solve this problem\_  
I have a problem with the calculation of the powerconsumption of my heatpump. The heatpump should take care of that itself but the values are totally useless.

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/0/7/07d22d5397872297230025e4df96090e9123821d.jpeg)

As you can see the heatpump says it used 62,7kWh but the smartmeter says it has used only 22,1kWh.  
So I tried next to use the info of the smartmeter over the 3 fase. Fase 1 is where the heatpump is connected. I created a virtual meter in PBTH called WP-totaal2

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/8/c/8caff2175d543f54eeeb6f4081d5e33e4a1d7071.png)

and uses a flow to push the values  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/0/0/0092fb078953007b8a44c8eeef507f6e005b4148.png)

In the underlaying picture you can see that the Total Power2 of the PHTB follows the line of Fase1. The thing that I do not understand is that the TotalPower2 is getting negative.  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/3/d/3d64fe1169fa75a8da2606f197bddcca3575c11d.png)

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**Author:** ![Hans-Christian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/hans-christian/32/68056_2.png) [@Hans-Christian](https://community.homey.app/u/Hans-Christian)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 2:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/1934 "2023-12-04T14:11:27Z")

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@Gruijter , Have you had any time to look into issue with average pricing?

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 3:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/1935 "2023-12-04T15:14:20Z")

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nope.

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**Author:** ![Yestond](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/yestond/32/9807_2.png) [@Yestond](https://community.homey.app/u/Yestond)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 7:19pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/1936 "2023-12-04T19:19:36Z")

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When trying to change anything in the settings I get the following error:  
device is not ready. Ignoring new settings!  
I’ve tried to restart the app and even adding a new Day Ahead E Prices but the issue persists.  
Any idea on what I’m doing wrong?  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/1/718ade13277beef3e71b7bc3e31ad62bf6d96d4b.png)

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**Author:** ![Ronald\_van\_Keulen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronald_van_keulen/32/2828_2.png) [@Ronald\_van\_Keulen](https://community.homey.app/u/Ronald_van_Keulen)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 11:11am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/1937 "2023-12-06T11:11:31Z")

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@Gruijter any idea why the values of the TotalPower2 becomes negative??

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 11:22am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/1938 "2023-12-06T11:22:54Z")

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> [@Ronald\_van\_Keulen](#):
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> and uses a flow to push the values

You are pushing power (Watt) to the PBTH device. But that flow card expects energy (kWh)

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 11:37am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/1939 "2023-12-06T11:37:59Z")

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> [@Ronald\_van\_Keulen](#):
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> the heatpump says it used 62,7kWh but the smartmeter says it has used only 22,1kWh

Arent you mixing up heat energy and electric energy? A heatpump can create 62,7kWh of heat from 22,1kWh electric energy. The COP is then almost 3, which seems plausible to me.

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**Author:** ![Ronald\_van\_Keulen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronald_van_keulen/32/2828_2.png) [@Ronald\_van\_Keulen](https://community.homey.app/u/Ronald_van_Keulen)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 1:13pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/1940 "2023-12-06T13:13:42Z")

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I’ve had called the installer of the heatpump and they tolled roughly the same thing. So I devide the values by 3 to get a better estimate

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**Author:** ![Ronald\_van\_Keulen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronald_van_keulen/32/2828_2.png) [@Ronald\_van\_Keulen](https://community.homey.app/u/Ronald_van_Keulen)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 1:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/1941 "2023-12-06T13:16:11Z")

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Of pushing Watt to the PBTH device, I did notice that , but I had and have no clue how to convert that to kWh, if that is possible anyhow

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