# \[APP\]\[Pro\] Power by the Hour: Insights per hour, day, month and year **URL:** \ **Category:** Apps\ **Tags:** app, tools\ **Created:** [November 10, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535 "2019-11-10T22:06:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 181
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2026, 4:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3673 "2026-03-12T16:32:10Z")
> [@Johan\_Bruyn](#): > > The graph is currently positive, though Super weird. Guess I have to fetch my own HP2019 to try and recreate what happens there ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2026, 6:42pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3674 "2026-03-12T18:42:31Z")
Looking good, Robin! @ Pro 2026: ![SolarForecast](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/c/8/c838f15a655d60d1d8ed8240308685c70ff1a510.png) FYI I did not get negative graph values @ Pro 2019 ---
**Author:** ![Qinoz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/qinoz/32/149833_2.png) [@Qinoz](https://community.homey.app/u/Qinoz)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2026, 7:39pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3675 "2026-03-12T19:39:11Z")
Looks great! Is the plan to get flowcards/logic cards with the forecast for tomorrow in kWh? I primarily need tomorrow’s forecast in my flows. ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2026, 7:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3676 "2026-03-12T19:51:10Z")
> [@Qinoz](#): > > Is the plan to get flowcards/logic cards with the forecast for tomorrow in kWh? Definitely! Focus mostly has been first to get usable forecasts. Next up is using forecasts in flows. My end-goal is to make PbtH more a HEMS. Day ahead pricing is already in. Batteries are already in, PV is now in. Next up is EV and home usage prediction (the most difficult one I think). But this is really still far on the horizon. PV should run stable first. ---
**Author:** ![Qinoz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/qinoz/32/149833_2.png) [@Qinoz](https://community.homey.app/u/Qinoz)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2026, 9:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3677 "2026-03-12T21:06:13Z")
> [@Gruijter](#): > > Definitely! Focus mostly has been first to get usable forecasts. Next up is using forecasts in flows. > > My end-goal is to make PbtH more a HEMS. Day ahead pricing is already in. Batteries are already in, PV is now in. Next up is EV and home usage prediction (the most difficult one I think). > > But this is really still far on the horizon. PV should run stable first. I like your ambitions — a donation has been made now. ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2026, 9:13pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3678 "2026-03-12T21:13:57Z")
Super! Many thanks for the donation ❤🙏 ---
**Author:** ![Johan\_Bruyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bruyn/32/132683_2.png) [@Johan\_Bruyn](https://community.homey.app/u/Johan_Bruyn)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2026, 10:58am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3679 "2026-03-13T10:58:26Z")
The graphs look better today. A reasonable forecast already on HP’23. On HP’19, a small bump between 17:00 and 19:00. The output power is being plotted correctly today. So I’ll just put it down to a hiccup for now. It probably has to do with the devices being switched on at the end of the day. In any case, it looks very promising. I am going to remove the summary for the PV. Having two things tracking exactly the same thing is, of course, a bit nonsensical. ![aaeff376-e73e-4fed-86c9-0d7cf21412e0-2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/5/1/519011ace72cd268245e2c371cf523082b9aed97.png) ![image-3](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/d/e/de813d330d46c19243f55165fb4897cc20f0dcf1.png) ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2026, 11:18am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3680 "2026-03-13T11:18:32Z")
@Johan_Bruyn Many Thx for your donation ! ❤ ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Koning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martin_koning/32/16839_2.png) [@Martin\_Koning](https://community.homey.app/u/Martin_Koning)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2026, 1:23pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3681 "2026-03-13T13:23:40Z")
I will make a new Virtual Device “SMA Datamanager M”. Now not only with power (W) but also energy (kWh). All this for a more correct solar-prediction. Predicted Learning-problem: I’m dimming with netto negative prices (0,018-0,018). ---
**Author:** ![Geert1992](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/geert1992/32/121041_2.png) [@Geert1992](https://community.homey.app/u/Geert1992)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2026, 2:19pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3682 "2026-03-13T14:19:45Z")
Mine grapg lookslike, while the solaredge modbus/homey energy graph looks smooth, what can it be. ![Opzegging](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/4/1/416440f51a4eb07afea94f5831efe63f88660093.png) ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2026, 3:39pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3683 "2026-03-13T15:39:16Z")
Inverter’s output seems to be capped to 600W max? You could compare that value in the insights graph of the inverter itself, to see if it’s the device or the PbtH graph. Here they’re pretty similar: ![Screenshot_20260313_163622_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/a/a/aa50201585eee902a33a5d46d368c54a8f6ce795.jpeg) ![Screenshot_20260313_163705_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/b/7/b782935c55597914848b0dfb963342d1a2ca5db7.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Johan\_Bruyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bruyn/32/132683_2.png) [@Johan\_Bruyn](https://community.homey.app/u/Johan_Bruyn)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2026, 6:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3684 "2026-03-13T18:27:44Z")
Question, when will the solar forecast be updated? Midnight? And idea, prevent the value from being lower than 0. With an external kWh meter you also measure the “stand-by” consumption of the inverter. You will then see the graph dive below 0. Perhaps has a negative impact on the prediction. Another thing, today the value of the PV stuck at 50W while there was no more production. ![IMG_4167](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/d/1/d125257e6710a4f4c3af7033f6e1a638e1c861a9.png) ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2026, 8:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3685 "2026-03-13T20:36:44Z")
> [@Peter\_Kawa](#): > > the device or the PbtH graph. > > Here they’re pretty similar: PbtH solar takes the realtime power data from the source device, just averaged a bit to smoothe out transient spikes. ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2026, 8:45pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3686 "2026-03-13T20:45:41Z")
> [@Johan\_Bruyn](#): > > when will the solar forecast be updated? The power forecast you see is the product of radiation forecast \* PV distribution model The radiation forecast is updated every 15 minutes 24/7, based on a number of weather models. The PV distribution model is trained continuously/real time, plus every night around 1am it will fetch 14 days of Homey insights to calibrate the model. > [@Johan\_Bruyn](#): > > today the value of the PV stuck at 50W while there was no more production PbtH takes whatever your source device reports. ---
**Author:** ![Johan\_Bruyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bruyn/32/132683_2.png) [@Johan\_Bruyn](https://community.homey.app/u/Johan_Bruyn)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2026, 9:26pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3687 "2026-03-13T21:26:18Z")
> [@Gruijter](#): > > The power forecast you see is the product of radiation forecast \* PV distribution model So the prediction should improve around 1:00? Because right now the graph only shows a peak of 9 Watts between 17-19h on the HP’19. For tomorrow’s forecast. ![image-4](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/a/7ae1d1232276005dfd448d734a5555814bb90679.png) > [@Gruijter](#): > > PbtH takes whatever your source device reports. Then I think we have a small bug after all. If I overlay the kWh meter and the Solar Forecaster, I get this image. ![Scherm­afbeelding 2026-03-13 om 22.14.34](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/9/d/9dc052a102f9f0497f7a7c6c4ffdd0832854e961.png) Reboot both systems? \*edit Hmm, I found something. On the HP’19, the power is registered twice: positive and negative. Possibly a result of the beta test. I’m going to ask Jeroen about it. ---
**Author:** ![Daderu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daderu/32/107948_2.png) [@Daderu](https://community.homey.app/u/Daderu)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2026, 7:45am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3688 "2026-03-14T07:45:15Z")
Nice! Love the this possibility and tried it. Would it also be possible to use a variable for the time after “and”? Now it is only possible for the and . ---
**Author:** ![Johan\_Bruyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bruyn/32/132683_2.png) [@Johan\_Bruyn](https://community.homey.app/u/Johan_Bruyn)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2026, 11:13am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3689 "2026-03-14T11:13:48Z")
After looking into what might be going wrong with my kWh meter with @Jeroen_Tebbens for a while, and finally removing and reinstalling the kWh meter and the Solar Forecaster, it seems that it is now working as desired. We will just wait and see what happens next. ![image-5](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/0/8/08e0dd2bdae3af2597a70b269c03052d3b83df23.png) Quick request. Can you add the “remaining today” status indicator? ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2026, 11:50am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3690 "2026-03-14T11:50:46Z")
I identified this as an artifact from left-over deprecated power capabilities from older Homey firmware versions. In the next release I ignore those capabilities. ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2026, 12:50pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3691 "2026-03-14T12:50:29Z")
> [@Killerbert](#): > > I enabled the lowest time myself on 13:44. The flow 19, didn’t trigger Found the issue. Is fixed in next release. ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2026, 1:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3692 "2026-03-14T13:15:24Z")
new version 8.7.2 ready for testing: [https://homey.app/a/com.gruijter.powerhour/test/](https://homey.app/a/com.gruijter.powerhour/test/) - Improve SolarForecaster source data fetching. - Fix several flow cards. - Homey-api 3.17.4 [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535.md?page=180) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535.md?page=182)