# \[APP\]\[Pro\] Power by the Hour: Insights per hour, day, month and year **URL:** \ **Category:** Apps\ **Tags:** app, tools\ **Created:** [November 10, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535 "2019-11-10T22:06:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 151
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 4:38pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3062 "2025-05-04T16:38:04Z")
> [@Bernd\_Gaykema](#): > > waar haal jij die grafiek vandaan? it’s right below the pic 🤪 > [@Ria\_Banis](#): > > I have this in Hdashboard ---
**Author:** ![Bernd\_Gaykema](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bernd_gaykema/32/112153_2.png) [@Bernd\_Gaykema](https://community.homey.app/u/Bernd_Gaykema)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 8:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3063 "2025-05-04T20:14:31Z")
Sorry for the Dutch language… Mij zegt Hdashboard niets en komt het woord over als met een typefout geschreven. Zo had ik dat dus geïnterpreteerd. Maar jij wijst mij er fijntjes op dat Hdashboard geen typefout bevat en wel deglijk iets is. Weet ik ook weer. Back to English… ---
**Author:** ![Ria\_Banis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ria_banis/32/7966_2.png) [@Ria\_Banis](https://community.homey.app/u/Ria_Banis)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 5:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3065 "2025-05-05T05:48:45Z")
Sorry I better placed a link: [[PRO][Dashboard] HDashboards a dashboard system fully focussed on Homey](https://community.homey.app/t/pro-dashboard-hdashboards-a-dashboard-system-fully-focussed-on-homey/88227) ---
**Author:** ![Theo\_de\_Koning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/theo_de_koning/32/136062_2.png) [@Theo\_de\_Koning](https://community.homey.app/u/Theo_de_Koning)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 7:59am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3066 "2025-05-05T07:59:25Z")
My reaction on the PbtH graphics on my tablet is probably coming from my tablet. On my mobile I see the link to choose the 3 graphics. On my tablet is on the top cut of in the graphic itself. From the high price indicator is seeing only the bottom half. **Solution** 1. To make it possible to turn your tablet. 2. To click on the graphic half way top. ---
**Author:** ![Theo\_de\_Koning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/theo_de_koning/32/136062_2.png) [@Theo\_de\_Koning](https://community.homey.app/u/Theo_de_Koning)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 6:13pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3067 "2025-05-05T18:13:48Z")
FYI The JSON gas price for tomorrow is in my time block from 18:15 - 20:00 not update. For myself I let the timer go running further till 22:00 looking for the update. **Edit** Also no update before 22:00. Waiting now tomorrow in the ZP app. ---
**Author:** ![Theo\_de\_Koning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/theo_de_koning/32/136062_2.png) [@Theo\_de\_Koning](https://community.homey.app/u/Theo_de_Koning)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 6:33am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3068 "2025-05-06T06:33:44Z")
**No gas prices for today.** For ZP the price in the app is €1.1730. ---
**Author:** ![TKroon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tkroon/32/9504_2.png) [@TKroon](https://community.homey.app/u/TKroon)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 11:14am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3069 "2025-05-06T11:14:56Z")
From June 12th 2025 the European electricity market changes from hourly prices to 15-min prices. Source: [Solar Magazine - Europa stapt over op kwartierprijzen: ‘Kansen voor batterijen en zonnepanelen, risico’s niet onderschatten’](https://solarmagazine.nl/nieuws-zonne-energie/i40451/europa-stapt-over-op-kwartierprijzen-kansen-voor-batterijen-en-zonnepanelen-risico-s-niet-onderschatten) Is PbtH ready for this? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 11:25am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3070 "2025-05-06T11:25:46Z")
> [@TKroon](#): > > Is PbtH ready for this? As asked many times before: [https://community.homey.app/search?q=15%20min%20topic%3A20535%20order%3Alatest](https://community.homey.app/search?q=15%20min%20topic%3A20535%20order%3Alatest) And the answer is: not yet. Adjusting the app will be a lot of work for dev Robin. And this might help: > [@Gruijter](#): > > If you like the app, don’t hesitate to [DONATE](https://www.paypal.me/gruijter) ---
**Author:** ![TKroon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tkroon/32/9504_2.png) [@TKroon](https://community.homey.app/u/TKroon)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 1:18pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3071 "2025-05-06T13:18:16Z")
Thanks. I searched for “quarter” and found one post dating four months ago. I will donate 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 1:31pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3072 "2025-05-06T13:31:23Z")
Many thx for your kind donation @TKroon ! 🍺🌻 ---
**Author:** ![Bulletcather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bulletcather/32/13738_2.png) [@Bulletcather](https://community.homey.app/u/Bulletcather)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 9:38pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3073 "2025-05-08T21:38:29Z")
Is it possible to also make a darkmode variant. Looks nice at the dashboard ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/6/f/6f3f050a94b4080f9e6f14a470e4eb4bc51a1254.png) ---
**Author:** ![Geert1992](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/geert1992/32/121041_2.png) [@Geert1992](https://community.homey.app/u/Geert1992)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 1:40pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3074 "2025-05-10T13:40:40Z")
Hi @Gruijter , Could you please explain how the battery monitor in your app works? I’ve noticed that it doesn’t always seem to follow the flow chart as expected. For example, I’ve set the virtual device to allow charging when the price difference is at least 8 cents. I’ve also entered the same value in the flow chart under “the price is the best to charge the home battery.” However, I’ve seen the battery start charging even when the chart is grey (not green), which seems to suggest that charging shouldn’t be allowed at that time. Does the value set in the virtual device settings actually influence the behavior, or is the system only following the flow chart logic? I’d really appreciate a bit more information on how this works behind the scenes. Thanks in advance! ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 2:42pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3075 "2025-05-10T14:42:11Z")
> [@Geert1992](#): > > I’ve seen the battery start charging even when the chart is grey (not green That could only be explained if the SoC at the start of that hour is significantly different from the predicted/intended SoC, or if new price info became available for the day after. ---
**Author:** ![Geert1992](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/geert1992/32/121041_2.png) [@Geert1992](https://community.homey.app/u/Geert1992)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 3:33pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3076 "2025-05-10T15:33:46Z")
Thank you for your reply and for explaining how it works. Could you please clarify what the number on the virtual device represents, and what the value on the flow card indicates? Which one takes precedence, or do they work together? I’m not entirely sure how to interpret their relationship. As for what you mentioned—I’ve seen that behavior before, but the specific hour when it happens sometimes changes color on the chart and sometimes it doesn’t. For example, the battery might start charging even while the chart shows that hour as grey. ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 5:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3077 "2025-05-10T17:37:09Z")
> [@Geert1992](#): > > the battery might start charging even while the chart shows that hour as grey I dont see how that could happen when Homey is in full control. Maybe the graph image just needed a refresh. Are you sure no other flows or external parties have control over the battery? The profit you fill in the flow takes presedence. If you fill in the exact same profit in the device settings, the graph shows what the flow will do. ---
**Author:** ![Geert1992](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/geert1992/32/121041_2.png) [@Geert1992](https://community.homey.app/u/Geert1992)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 6:18pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3078 "2025-05-10T18:18:01Z")
Thank you for taking the time to reply. Only Homey is in full control of the home battery’s. I think I now understand the issue: if I’m interpreting you correctly, the price difference shown in the device settings and the price difference filled in on the flow chart are two separate values. The chart does not take into account the losses entered in the device settings, whereas the price difference in the device settings _does_ include those losses. Is there a way to link these values? Or alternatively, could you provide a fixed number that can be entered into the flow chart so that the values align exactly and follow the chart 100%? Or could you maybe remove the losses, soo its a fixed number? Also, could you consider adding two separate options in the device settings—one for the price difference when charging and another for discharging—similar to how it’s represented in the flow? ---
**Author:** ![Crapton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/crapton/32/15039_2.png) [@Crapton](https://community.homey.app/u/Crapton)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3079 "2025-05-10T18:32:25Z")
Dear all, esp PbtH experienced users, I am trying to make a simple flow to reduce PV output power (SMA in my case) depending on the spot market price. If this price is \< 0 € then I want to reduce output power to X W, where X is approx my home use. I tried “Price now is below 0 €” as a trigger to set SMA power limit to X, and if this condition is NOT valid (so then… else… ) the power limit is set to 9000 W (max power). When I test this simple flow then BOTH conditions show green as active? I was expecting the first card to be either TRUE or FALSE but clearly it is not. My thought was to check every hour if the price is \< 0 € and then set the SMA inverter to X W power limit. But if I try “If every 1 hour and” the “Price now is lower than 0 €” is gone? I have used the hourly check on other flows and it is simple and effective and it works. So why not here? What am I misunderstanding and how to do this? ![Schermafbeelding 2025-05-10 202155](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/2/2/22258bb61cf6bdcfe77c9660417e7b6c5c7f0e5b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 11:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3080 "2025-05-10T23:04:40Z")
Without any conditions, the ELSE card gets fired as well. (IMHO It _shouldn’t_ fire in any case, while there’s no conditional card triggering it) > [@Crapton](#): > > the “Price now is lower than 0 €” is gone? In general you’re supposed to use logic cards and the devices’ tags as conditions (called AND cards). What I did: You’d create a second flow to increase the output power when the price becomes a positive figure again. ![Screenshot_20250511_005719_Firefox](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/d/1/d10e1c346009365f73040735024e6a9f0419c4d8.jpeg) ![Screenshot_20250511_005943_Firefox](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/8/f/8f83f201be56e915071e79b597d856393556d14f.jpeg) (`3600`, because I’ve a 3.6 inverter) Oh, and this Sunday afternoon @ noon: flow check time! In NL that is: ![1000048549](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/3/b/3bbd579b893a102e50ad28f41849a5b835c7ca61.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Crapton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/crapton/32/15039_2.png) [@Crapton](https://community.homey.app/u/Crapton)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 7:24am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3081 "2025-05-11T07:24:03Z")
@Peter_Kawa Many thanks for your suggestion! I have copied your idea and will be tested today. Appearently one has to use some “indirect” card/flow logic to get this working, and the “else” card firing got me confused. Perhaps the app developers can optimize the app logic so only one simple flow is required checking eg once every hour for negative prices and adjusting the inverter power output to whatever X Watt or if you have a P1 meter P1 + X Watt. Given these absolutely ridiculous negative prices as today (-0.35 €/kWh!!!) I would expect PV owners on a dynamic contract would give high priority to voluntary PV curtailment. Homey is an excellent tool for this once you get the logic right. \ ***Update:** flow power reduction works for me. Later today will see if 2nd flow will restore max power. And indeed second flow restores power limit again. \* _I made comment above on adjusting power limit to current home use, but with negative prices it is makes more sense to adjust to 0 W. Since the power is free and sometimes you even get money when you use it. Still not used to this weird way of thinking._ ---
**Author:** ![Ria\_Banis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ria_banis/32/7966_2.png) [@Ria\_Banis](https://community.homey.app/u/Ria_Banis)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 9:08am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3082 "2025-05-11T09:08:27Z")
I copied thus fow and it did not work (solaredge) [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535.md?page=150) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535.md?page=152)