# \[APP\]\[Pro\] Power by the Hour: Insights per hour, day, month and year **URL:** \ **Category:** Apps\ **Tags:** app, tools\ **Created:** [November 10, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535 "2019-11-10T22:06:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 149
**Author:** ![Bernd\_Gaykema](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bernd_gaykema/32/112153_2.png) [@Bernd\_Gaykema](https://community.homey.app/u/Bernd_Gaykema)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 8:18am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3022 "2025-04-07T08:18:08Z")
> [@Peter\_Kawa](#): > > I’m curious why it’s even higher for you? I got my rate from the zonneplan website. ![Zonneplan](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/1/3/13c1a4197fb72b1d2c4131283d5a40b366b58d24.png) ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 6:31am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3023 "2025-04-08T06:31:10Z")
@Matti_Hirvonen many thx for your kind donation. Much appreciated! ❤🍺 ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 3:19pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3024 "2025-04-14T15:19:43Z")
> [@Ria\_Banis](#): > > Hi Peter, There has been a reduction in energy tax in the Netherlands for years. This is because electricity is a basic need. This means that this year you will not pay any taxes at all over the first 4,000 kWh hours. Hi Ria, I know about the reduction but it’s such a weird construction. Thanks @SunBeech for the screenshot & link. So, we’ll have to be an energy “buyer” to be entitled to the reduction: we’d buy at least one kWh from the grid in one year. That means, if I sell more kWh’s than I buy, I’ll lose the €621,- (the reduction 2025) \> which is perfectly sensible of course. But, as an energy _ **producer** _, when I return more than I buy in a year, this means I’ll have to make sure to earn over €621 with my produced energy, which is impossible. I’ll understand I have to calculate my buy / sell figures very carefully, and maybe even stop/reduce energy production at some point during the ~~year~~ summer. (I deliberately have overdone my PV output, to have at least _some_ solar power left during winter for the heatpump) ---
**Author:** ![Ria\_Banis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ria_banis/32/7966_2.png) [@Ria\_Banis](https://community.homey.app/u/Ria_Banis)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 4:23pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3025 "2025-04-14T16:23:14Z")
energy tax reduction applies to invoice addresses that are designated as residential addresses. It does not matter how much you use or return. I have been returning more than I use for years, but I simply get this back. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 8:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3026 "2025-04-14T20:49:43Z")
OK, thank you, Ria. Highly appreciated! That sounds allright. So no (financial) limitations on returning more energy than used. It leads me to believe this line below, should be read as “each year, you’ll have to buy at least 1 kWh at some point” \> which most households do at night or during winter: > ![1000046444](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/9/6/96d535ead1653675e3195e3db8b0792327bbe9bc.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Ria\_Banis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ria_banis/32/7966_2.png) [@Ria\_Banis](https://community.homey.app/u/Ria_Banis)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 7:11am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3027 "2025-04-15T07:11:58Z")
The requirement is that the connection is a household and not a business connection. And indeed in the Netherlands you always use at least in the winter. I think this use of at least 1 kwh is to avoid owners get this tax reduce if the house is not inhabited. And I calculated that with this years tax on electricity (energy tax and BTW) and the tax reduction this year you don’t pay any tax over the first 5130 kWh. ---
**Author:** ![Hass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/51bf81/32.png) [@Hass](https://community.homey.app/u/Hass)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 9:05am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3028 "2025-04-15T09:05:51Z")
Hello, I have an advanced flow which charges my EV using excessive solar. This flow is not only calculating excessive solar available to charge, but it also charges only during the cheapest hours depending on battery levels and estimate solar production. To make this flow even smarter, I would like to be able to add a section that would compare the current prices with tomorrow’s prices (once they’re released). Tibber has a flow card with “Current price is cheapest x prices within XX:XX and XX:XX today” which I use in my flow. Is it possible, using this app, to do the same but with tomorrows prices, so I could compare them? Combined with the SolarForcast app, I would be able to determine if it’s worth charging today, or if it would make more sense to wait until tomorrow. Thank you in advance! ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 2:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3029 "2025-04-15T14:48:21Z")
This could be a start, Alfred: ![1000000719](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/1/7/17a6b86972026bfe651df4e37b52af32c48e73a8.jpeg) The “Lowest …” tags used in the comparison card, come from the _Day Ahead E-prices_ device: ![1000000723](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/5/6/566a508be2e9ccc1a69af16ce24d253380d1a225.jpeg) ![Screenshot_20250415_164421_Firefox](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/e/1/e1457dcbb1c4bf117dd4fff63b9db84d2afeadda.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Arnoud\_Fleer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f1d935/32.png) [@Arnoud\_Fleer](https://community.homey.app/u/Arnoud_Fleer)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 8:39pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3030 "2025-04-19T20:39:23Z")
Does anybody else have the same problem with gas prices? They are showing as €0.00… ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 9:03pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3031 "2025-04-19T21:03:18Z")
No issues here with TTF\_EGSI market. Which market do you use? ---
**Author:** ![Arnoud\_Fleer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f1d935/32.png) [@Arnoud\_Fleer](https://community.homey.app/u/Arnoud_Fleer)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 9:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3032 "2025-04-19T21:27:26Z")
I was using TTF\_EOD, but i will try the one u use. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 9:31pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3033 "2025-04-19T21:31:29Z")
And an app restart can help in re-fetching prices. ---
**Author:** ![Arnoud\_Fleer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f1d935/32.png) [@Arnoud\_Fleer](https://community.homey.app/u/Arnoud_Fleer)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 9:34pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3034 "2025-04-19T21:34:06Z")
Nothing works… ![IMG_6282](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/1/9/19a371b63c5bc40dd5ec3e97f94ff7b216f72093.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 11:52pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3035 "2025-04-19T23:52:00Z")
You probably have to wait until new gas prices are published. This is on top of my head at 6:00h in the morning. ---
**Author:** ![Theo\_de\_Koning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/theo_de_koning/32/136062_2.png) [@Theo\_de\_Koning](https://community.homey.app/u/Theo_de_Koning)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2025, 5:46am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3036 "2025-04-20T05:46:53Z")
The gas prices for Sunday are those for Saturday. The PbtH JSON file, with the gas prices for tomorrow, I started to try to pickup them between 18:15 and 20:00. ---
**Author:** ![HuisCHovens](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/huischovens/32/16973_2.png) [@HuisCHovens](https://community.homey.app/u/HuisCHovens)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2025, 8:31am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3037 "2025-04-20T08:31:58Z")
Gas price of ttf leba easy energie from anwb dont do it for 3 days. Where can you see if it is the app? or if online is also broken? I see it already in the ANWB app, it’s the same price. But then in the graph in Homey it’s empty for 3 days? Can’t you just update the same price? ---
**Author:** ![Steven\_Bareman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/steven_bareman/32/31404_2.png) [@Steven\_Bareman](https://community.homey.app/u/Steven_Bareman)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2025, 2:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3038 "2025-04-20T14:36:50Z")
Same problem over here (TTF LEBA), not working anymore for 3 days and a restart of the app (or Homey) won’t to the trick. ---
**Author:** ![Theo\_de\_Koning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/theo_de_koning/32/136062_2.png) [@Theo\_de\_Koning](https://community.homey.app/u/Theo_de_Koning)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2025, 6:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3039 "2025-04-20T18:24:25Z")
The gas price is by Zonneplan in the app was: 17 April € 1,1955 18 April € 1,1994 19 April € 1,1994 20 April € 1,1994 Voor tomorrow 21 April also € 1,1994 by the PbtH JSON file for tomorrow. Edit. “21 April also € 1,1994” confirmed in ZP app. ---
**Author:** ![Theo\_de\_Koning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/theo_de_koning/32/136062_2.png) [@Theo\_de\_Koning](https://community.homey.app/u/Theo_de_Koning)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 7:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3040 "2025-04-21T19:37:40Z")
The gas price PbtH JSON file for tomorrow 22 April is still not received on 21:30. After my call periode 18:00 - 20:00, I get a timeline notificatie of faling. Also just manuele no result. ---
**Author:** ![Theo\_de\_Koning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/theo_de_koning/32/136062_2.png) [@Theo\_de\_Koning](https://community.homey.app/u/Theo_de_Koning)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 6:45am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3041 "2025-04-22T06:45:23Z")
Also the gas price PbtH JSON file for today is not available. For ZP it’s € 1,1996 [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535.md?page=148) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535.md?page=150)