# \[APP\]\[Pro\] Power by the Hour: Insights per hour, day, month and year

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535>\
**Category:** Apps\
**Tags:** app, tools\
**Created:** [November 10, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535 "2019-11-10T22:06:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 8:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3002 "2025-04-04T20:04:22Z")

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> [@Amersfoort](#):
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> What are the consequences for Power by the Hour?

PBTH needs a huge rewrite 😖

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**Author:** ![Bernd\_Gaykema](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bernd_gaykema/32/112153_2.png) [@Bernd\_Gaykema](https://community.homey.app/u/Bernd_Gaykema)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 2:18pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3003 "2025-04-05T14:18:19Z")

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Time for a cold 🍻  
I sent you some ingredients for it…

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 2:50pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3004 "2025-04-05T14:50:54Z")

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@OH2TH thanx for your kind donation! ❤

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 2:52pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3005 "2025-04-05T14:52:26Z")

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@Bernd_Gaykema many thx for your kind donation too! ❤

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**Author:** ![Theo\_de\_Koning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/theo_de_koning/32/136062_2.png) [@Theo\_de\_Koning](https://community.homey.app/u/Theo_de_Koning)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 3:43pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3006 "2025-04-05T15:43:52Z")

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Sadly I have to stop using the “Price +x h” possibility’s  
For the 3rd time those values where incorrect.  
The values from 17:00 till 00:00 tomorrow I could corrected by the PbtH JSON files.

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**Author:** ![TKroon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tkroon/32/9504_2.png) [@TKroon](https://community.homey.app/u/TKroon)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 4:34pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3007 "2025-04-05T16:34:00Z")

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And again the remaining prices of today are ruined by importing the prices of tomorrow.

 ![IMG_5204](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/d/e/de9a815abb17251c9c6dccb1b573be1228388d31.png)  
 ![IMG_5205](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/4/74bbf9231424c68aeec01302d1ca014fa62fb6ec.png)  
 ![IMG_5206](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/f/5/f5a8ac3914dd7142acda9a9ee8c3002bdd2671fc.png)  
 ![IMG_5207](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/2/f/2f2233cf95d3bd680327e214a3f5b3b632d33720.png)  
Now the upcoming prices are not identical, but not correct. The graph cannot be shown and the highest/lowest prices are no longer available for today.

Could you please have a look at this issue? It is the third or fourth time this happened this year.  
Please let me know if I can help test something.

Edit: app v6.6.6, homey 10.4.1. Sent a diagnostics report.

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**Author:** ![Xander\_Hoose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/xander_hoose/32/131829_2.png) [@Xander\_Hoose](https://community.homey.app/u/Xander_Hoose)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 6:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3008 "2025-04-05T18:24:13Z")

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Same-- my flows stopped working because there are no new price hours. Gentle nudge to @Gruijter 🙂

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**Author:** ![Bernd\_Gaykema](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bernd_gaykema/32/112153_2.png) [@Bernd\_Gaykema](https://community.homey.app/u/Bernd_Gaykema)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3009 "2025-04-05T19:23:11Z")

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A simple question from a new-be for PbtH…  
I will go for Zonneplan.  
How should I fill-in the add-on costs?

- Inkoopvergoeding = 0,0200
- Vaste leveringskosten = 6,25
- VAT = 21%

Under settings I did the following:

- Variabele opslag = 21
- Variabele opslag @abs prijs = 0
- Vaste opslag per kWh = 0,02
- Extra time of day opslag = empty  
The rest is default.

Where do I have to enter the 6,25 euro per day rate?

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**Author:** ![Theo\_de\_Koning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/theo_de_koning/32/136062_2.png) [@Theo\_de\_Koning](https://community.homey.app/u/Theo_de_Koning)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 7:28pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3010 "2025-04-05T19:28:17Z")

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You can better get those prices by yourself.  
Get the PbtH JSON file and put it in a variable.  
Pick the date from there for the rest of the day.

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**Author:** ![Bernd\_Gaykema](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bernd_gaykema/32/112153_2.png) [@Bernd\_Gaykema](https://community.homey.app/u/Bernd_Gaykema)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 7:31pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3011 "2025-04-05T19:31:56Z")

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I have no clue what a JSON file is.  
I just want to use PbtH as such, no manual handling.

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 7:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3012 "2025-04-05T19:48:44Z")

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> [@Bernd\_Gaykema](#):
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> Where do I have to enter the 6,25 euro per day rate?

That is not in the day-ahead price device. You can add that in the settings of the summarizer device of your main meter.

And you need to add the energy-tax per kWh also to the fixed cost. Now you only added the 0.02 markup that your provider is charging. Way more costly is what the NL government is charging.

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**Author:** ![Bernd\_Gaykema](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bernd_gaykema/32/112153_2.png) [@Bernd\_Gaykema](https://community.homey.app/u/Bernd_Gaykema)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3013 "2025-04-05T19:59:31Z")

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I see…  
Tax = 0,1228  
Zonneplan = 0,0200  
Total per kWh = 0,1428 euro

Now the prices in PbtH and on the website of Zonneplan are identical.

Thank you!

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**Author:** ![Theo\_de\_Koning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/theo_de_koning/32/136062_2.png) [@Theo\_de\_Koning](https://community.homey.app/u/Theo_de_Koning)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 8:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3014 "2025-04-05T20:14:04Z")

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This was a reactie for something before your post. 😉

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 8:38pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3015 "2025-04-05T20:38:29Z")

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I use these settings for Zonneplan:

> [@Financieel voordeel vast vs. dynamisch energiecontract](https://community.homey.app/t/financieel-voordeel-vast-vs-dynamisch-energiecontract/133866/2):
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> These are purely kWh prices incl. VAT, without the grid management and supply costs.  
> This refers to the “Day-ahead E prices” “device”:
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> ![1000045788](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/9/e/9e22519641e1eb9e0e2b1c6e638a22f59f97879b.jpeg)
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> _The hourly rates are automatically retrieved and calculated_
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> Fixed daily costs I add to the “Power summarizer”:
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> ![1000045791](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/5/c/5c947eed6cd1b8e7290738fe5eebd78618d4d5ce.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Theo\_de\_Koning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/theo_de_koning/32/136062_2.png) [@Theo\_de\_Koning](https://community.homey.app/u/Theo_de_Koning)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 10:00am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3016 "2025-04-06T10:00:12Z")

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Post delete by me

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**Author:** ![Bernd\_Gaykema](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bernd_gaykema/32/112153_2.png) [@Bernd\_Gaykema](https://community.homey.app/u/Bernd_Gaykema)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 1:18pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3017 "2025-04-06T13:18:45Z")

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Aha. Thanks for clarification.

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**Author:** ![Bernd\_Gaykema](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bernd_gaykema/32/112153_2.png) [@Bernd\_Gaykema](https://community.homey.app/u/Bernd_Gaykema)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 1:31pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3018 "2025-04-06T13:31:19Z")

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Thank you Peter,

The picture is complete now.  
I only wonder why your daily rate is 1,23 while mine is 6,25 euro.  
C’est la vie 😇

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 1:53pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3019 "2025-04-06T13:53:20Z")

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I’m curious why it’s even higher for you?  
Liander tariff 2025 (for max 1 \* 40A or 3 \* 25A) (without Gas):

```auto
384.08€
 75.05€
_______ +
459.13€ / year
  Divided by 12 = 28.36084€ / month
  Divided by 365 = 1.25789041095€ / day

```

 ![1000046053](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/6/7686b4d24baba50627d589068db2ba93d11f6388.jpeg)

Only I don’t understand anything about the Energy Tax and Energy tax Reduction “witchcraft”, being 233.10€ -/- 621.05€ = -387.95€  
Am I right this means I have  
365/387.95= 0.94084€/day less fixed costs?  
I still don’t calculate with this number.

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**Author:** ![SunBeech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sunbeech/32/111391_2.png) [@SunBeech](https://community.homey.app/u/SunBeech)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 2:13pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3020 "2025-04-06T14:13:05Z")

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Less taxes, as part of your energy usage is considered a basic need and hence exempt from taxes in NL:

 ![IMG_1778](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/1/4/14a7ef4e4c390519555dbea34a384640c3e11734.jpeg)

Source: [Energiebelasting in Nederland in 2025: hoe zit het?](https://www.gaslicht.com/energie-informatie/energiebelasting#Vermindering%20energiebelasting%20in%202022%20en%202023%20(heffingskorting))

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**Author:** ![Ria\_Banis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ria_banis/32/7966_2.png) [@Ria\_Banis](https://community.homey.app/u/Ria_Banis)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 7:12am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/3021 "2025-04-07T07:12:38Z")

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Hi Peter, There has been a reduction in energy tax in the Netherlands for years. This is because electricity is a basic need. This means that this year you will not pay any taxes at all over the first 4,000 kWh hours.

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