# \[APP\]\[Pro\] Power by the Hour: Insights per hour, day, month and year

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535>\
**Category:** Apps\
**Tags:** app, tools\
**Created:** [November 10, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535 "2019-11-10T22:06:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 134

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 4:19pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2718 "2024-11-27T16:19:31Z")

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> [@Marcel\_Harberink](#):
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> But when I select at Insight the option 8 hours ahead I only see data from the last hours/days.  
> So what am I missing ?

It shows the last known / current avg. price for the next 8 hours:

> ![1000038191](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/5/7511f6170de2a3bd231938a9d90c55077ecf69a7.jpeg)  
> Insights only shows current & historical data.  
> Looking back further in time shows what it _was_

Actual today/tomorrow hourly prices can be viewed when you hit the cam icon:

> ![1000038193](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/d/9/d9dfe25411eaa64b7d4b5cd4c66bdae3a7042a01.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Tukun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tukun/32/14477_2.png) [@Tukun](https://community.homey.app/u/Tukun)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 12:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2719 "2024-11-28T12:47:12Z")

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I am using kWh this day:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/f/8/f8d0be8ad85c40f510ca1be19048bc0345fa3782.jpeg)

6,43 kWh this day. The total production of the solar panels today is 0,2 kWh.

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**Author:** ![peltsi51](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peltsi51/32/12564_2.png) [@peltsi51](https://community.homey.app/u/peltsi51)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 1:52pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2720 "2024-12-01T13:52:34Z")

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Hi @Gruijter

I have a following testflow.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/2/7/27dba8b574a83fa264f8663a4a082a4e4e8da24b.png)

Today the variable iILPlämmitystunnit have been 24. So the flow should set the SN\_ILP\_lämmitystunnit variable to 1 in every hour. But it isn’t

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/b/7/b78289ae835839c2f0155b928687e96aa05da54a.png)

In the image it is seen that between 7-15 the SN\_ILP\_lämmitystunnit variable is 0.

Am I missing something or am I using the flowcard someway it cannot be used?

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**Author:** ![norenz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/norenz/32/16887_2.png) [@norenz](https://community.homey.app/u/norenz)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 8:04am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2721 "2024-12-03T08:04:22Z")

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Hi,

I need help on how to set current Watt on a PBTH device to measure a device that does not support kWh.

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**Author:** ![OH2TH](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/oh2th/32/111414_2.png) [@OH2TH](https://community.homey.app/u/OH2TH)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 6:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2722 "2024-12-04T18:32:05Z")

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The day-ahead electricity market is moving toward 15 minute pricing during 2025.

> **[Developments in the intraday and day-ahead markets](https://www.fingrid.fi/en/electricity-market/market-integration/electricity-market-development-projects/developments-in-the-intraday-and-day-ahead-markets/)**

> **[Transition to 15-minute Market Time Unit (MTU)](https://www.nordpoolgroup.com/en/trading/transition-to-15-minute-market-time-unit-mtu/)**
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> Nord Pool runs the leading power market in Europe, offering day-ahead and intraday markets to our customers.
> 
> Trade power with us in 16 countries and benefit from related services such as compliance, data and knowledge-sharing.

What are the plans for PbtH?

- Continue to support hourly system, keeping existing flow cards as they are.
- Add support for 15min Day-ahead prices?
- Doubles the flow cards, maybe option on each new card to use 15min or the new 1h average pricing.
- New pricing device for the new model?

Looks like many countries are moving to the new model sooner than later during 2025.

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2723 "2024-12-04T18:56:11Z")

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I’m aware. Big changes! Will require a redesign of some of the basic concepts in PBTH. Not a job I’m looking forward to do right now. Will start doing that when I have energy/time 😴

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**Author:** ![Theo\_de\_Koning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/theo_de_koning/32/136062_2.png) [@Theo\_de\_Koning](https://community.homey.app/u/Theo_de_Koning)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 10:01am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2724 "2024-12-05T10:01:30Z")

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This is a next case to get really the **“table variable”** in Homey.  
For now I have needed 107 difference Homey variables for making my dashboard list.  
But needed also BLL ones for calculations.

For now also no idea how to fill-in 4 more prices/hour.

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**Author:** ![Bug](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bug/32/16493_2.png) [@Bug](https://community.homey.app/u/Bug)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 2:42pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2725 "2024-12-05T14:42:18Z")

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Dear all,  
Is there a good way to go about updating the meter values if the gas and power meters have been replaced by Stedin (or any other supplier 😉 )?  
The meters start at 0 of course and that can cause calculation issues for the power and gas summarizers that are linked to the P1 HomeWizard device that is now at all 000 again.

I have tried to find this in the tread but did not find it…

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**Author:** ![Theo\_de\_Koning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/theo_de_koning/32/136062_2.png) [@Theo\_de\_Koning](https://community.homey.app/u/Theo_de_Koning)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 4:31pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2726 "2024-12-05T16:31:32Z")

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The workaround can be the working with variables like “E-meter old”.  
Then in the flows added this value to the output of the new meter value.  
You can copy that card and past it in every place that need it.

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2727 "2024-12-05T17:17:02Z")

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> [@Bug](#):
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> The meters start at 0 of course and that can cause calculation issues for the power and gas summarizers

That is why you can set this day/month/year start in the summarizer settings. Fill in the values of the old meter as negative number. You need to fiddle a bit with the exact numbers to get it right.

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**Author:** ![Bug](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bug/32/16493_2.png) [@Bug](https://community.homey.app/u/Bug)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 8:07pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2728 "2024-12-05T20:07:24Z")

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I added the negative values (that are the current used this year , this month and this day) but the current value sticks to the last known that is from the old meter. I did not change anything to the Homeward devices that are reading the P1 device. those began reading the new values (starting at 0 for all). is there anything else besides restarting the PBTH app on homey, as that did not seem to help to get the values updating again…

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**Author:** ![Mike1233](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mike1233/32/20991_2.png) [@Mike1233](https://community.homey.app/u/Mike1233)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 8:28pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2729 "2024-12-05T20:28:41Z")

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@Bug I have changed values before and i noticed that the values are not changing instantly. It can take a couple of minutes. At least, that was my experience.

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**Author:** ![Bug](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bug/32/16493_2.png) [@Bug](https://community.homey.app/u/Bug)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 9:45am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2730 "2024-12-06T09:45:00Z")

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sadly the source number (current value) seems stuck. I have tried to restart the PBTH app as well as the homewizard app. i also tried the maintenance-repair to try and get it to read the meter\_power and get it to the meter\_latest. it does not seem to like it. is there another way to fix this? (as i cant alter the meter\_latest of course as that should come from the source device)  
I am considering to change it to use the daily reset for one day but am concerned that this will not help either…

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**Author:** ![Marco\_Rombout](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/marco_rombout/32/47933_2.png) [@Marco\_Rombout](https://community.homey.app/u/Marco_Rombout)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 12:50pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2731 "2024-12-06T12:50:54Z")

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I found a strange dynamic price dip in PBTH ( 6.6.5) @Gruijter for tomorrow. According to my zonneplan app this is definitely incorrect.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/e/1/e177f39a53bf5d5531bbf8cc981d64e6157b443f.jpeg)  
Can you please have a look when you have time?

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**Author:** ![Killerbert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/killerbert/32/109031_2.png) [@Killerbert](https://community.homey.app/u/Killerbert)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 7:26pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2732 "2024-12-06T19:26:18Z")

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Same here:  
Note that this is only with the none default settings; I’m using settings suggested to change for Zonneplan. Without the settings changed it works normal. (this will probably help with finding the issue) See screenshots.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/5/2/52abec2f36cd8600d79c8ca514d4248284edcdd0.png)  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/5/6/562941e052d0d9e3f8952b1c68f61dadf5149b43.png)

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 7:58pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2733 "2024-12-06T19:58:36Z")

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> [@Killerbert](#):
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> none default settings;

Can you share a screenshot of those settings?

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**Author:** ![Killerbert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/killerbert/32/109031_2.png) [@Killerbert](https://community.homey.app/u/Killerbert)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 8:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2734 "2024-12-06T20:16:15Z")

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Broken:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/b/7/b773b3cbbfedeecde3ca0cc9d647ab7d53643e87.png)  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/4/3/43cf619035d4e2f336b34dcd7f31fd3fbdefc5d0.png)  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/9/0/90d474b37e7133b373d9a04c7bfd4b854bf2cf3f.png)  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/a/0/a049f20ae4200a35907b2cdd658b403eca4bef1a.png)

Working:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/4/8/48c8d78b0e23297bfb1cfcc7255bd999dde72fa0.png)  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/c/6/c605e915ff852c301cd376f94324040a5d695fb3.png)

Let me know what screenshot you need exactly

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2735 "2024-12-06T20:19:01Z")

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This is the screenshot I needed. Can you try restarting the PBTH app?

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**Author:** ![Killerbert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/killerbert/32/109031_2.png) [@Killerbert](https://community.homey.app/u/Killerbert)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 8:22pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2736 "2024-12-06T20:22:23Z")

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restarted. Still the same.  
Note that the error only happens in the “Next hours” layout

The “tomorrow” option shows it correctly

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2737 "2024-12-06T20:26:00Z")

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Very weird… 🤔

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