# \[APP\]\[Pro\] Power by the Hour: Insights per hour, day, month and year **URL:** \ **Category:** Apps\ **Tags:** app, tools\ **Created:** [November 10, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535 "2019-11-10T22:06:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 119
**Author:** ![Killerbert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/killerbert/32/109031_2.png) [@Killerbert](https://community.homey.app/u/Killerbert)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 6:31pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2413 "2024-06-27T18:31:47Z")
For the “power by the Hour” app I think its good to have some specific solutions for specific cases. Here I’m looking to enable it on the cheapest hours. One of the cases is: - Enable washing machine I think this should be possible to do so, but I’m looking for some suggestions The following issues are there: - Here (NL) the price is known around 13:00. - In the morning, the price is dropping, but its unknown if the next hour price is much higher or lower - Lets say that its 15:00 and the notification is already given. Then at 16:00 its given again, because it doesn’t look at the previous hours. Then every hour this notification is given again Currently I tried to use the item below for the washing machine. There I’m looking for the cheapest option to enable the washing machine. ![Screenshot 2024-06-27 at 20.17.17](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/a/7/a7bfddd1187389ad290a5edc7166d1d76554996b.jpeg) The solution above ^ is not correct. ---
**Author:** ![Theo\_de\_Koning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/theo_de_koning/32/136062_2.png) [@Theo\_de\_Koning](https://community.homey.app/u/Theo_de_Koning)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 6:52pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2414 "2024-06-27T18:52:06Z")
After all the questions yesterday over JSON and other values to fill-in is it very clear that PBTH a **first class app** is. By only giving the values of your electricity-provider get every one the right graphic. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/3/b/3bbeb3f5baa81c2f4a1a951362d64965a886aaad.jpeg) Frank Energie today. ---
**Author:** ![Killerbert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/killerbert/32/109031_2.png) [@Killerbert](https://community.homey.app/u/Killerbert)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 7:00pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2415 "2024-06-27T19:00:16Z")
I think it would be a good idea to have a overview of the correct settings for the different energy providers That will help a lot of people 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Theo\_de\_Koning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/theo_de_koning/32/136062_2.png) [@Theo\_de\_Koning](https://community.homey.app/u/Theo_de_Koning)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 7:13pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2416 "2024-06-27T19:13:10Z")
Those for Frank Energie I have NOT found on there sited but here: > **[EerlijkVerbruik | Dynamische energievergelijker](https://eerlijkverbruik.nl)** > > EerlijkVerbruik biedt een eerlijke vergelijking van alle dynamische energieaanbieders. Doe de energiecheck & bespaar geld. This is for the Dutch energy providers a start. ---
**Author:** ![staeff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/staeff/32/79712_2.png) [@staeff](https://community.homey.app/u/staeff)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 9:57pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2417 "2024-06-27T21:57:38Z")
I think you just need to play around with some of the other WHEN cards, for example this would run for the cheapest price between 13:00-24:00 ![IMG_7181](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/1/71b97304ebacd6086494738a6fd9e779276af0be.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Theo\_de\_Koning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/theo_de_koning/32/136062_2.png) [@Theo\_de\_Koning](https://community.homey.app/u/Theo_de_Koning)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 10:09am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2418 "2024-06-28T10:09:47Z")
When you se all those prices here on the graphic you starting to look if you can cheaper. “Zonneplan” was the first because of the values of the “EerlijkVerbruik” side. € 0,15165 / kWh When I checked the Zonneplan side then I saw higher prices. For here in the app I have put €0,15705 by “Vaste opslag” for Frank Energie. Zonneplan gives “_Kortom: (0,05+0,1088+0,01653) x 1,21 = €0,21 per kWh_” → €0,2121493 in app. So I have look further then. ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2024, 10:07am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2420 "2024-07-02T10:07:55Z")
new version 6.5.1 is ready for testing: [Power by the Hour App for Homey | Homey](https://homey.app/a/com.gruijter.powerhour/test/) - homey-api@3.5.0 ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2024, 11:55pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2421 "2024-07-02T23:55:21Z")
FWIW These are _real_ ZP customer tariffs, Theo: I have €0,15165 fixed markup, wich is lower than FE. > ![Screenshot_20240703-014232_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/e/a/ea888c8c7efc67e28c9965c0f142480a73de3dc0.jpeg) > > ![Screenshot_20240703-014105_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/2/9/292cd12329e872b04d8a45d26f4d7caa92d2d511.jpeg) ![Screenshot_20240703-015025_Zonneplan](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/1/1/116638469e6dbe2b4c84da3e9b8ba2b07cb0df4d.jpeg) They also show the same, albeit rounded, tariffs online: [https://www.zonneplan.nl/energie/dynamische-energieprijzen](https://www.zonneplan.nl/energie/dynamische-energieprijzen) ---
**Author:** ![Theo\_de\_Koning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/theo_de_koning/32/136062_2.png) [@Theo\_de\_Koning](https://community.homey.app/u/Theo_de_Koning)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 6:54am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2422 "2024-07-03T06:54:49Z")
The ZP site is drastic changed. The formula the I put here came form the “old” site but that is gone. Finding the exact number for the “Fixed markup per kWh” price is now even so bad as for FE. For ZP you have now also to go to the “EerlijkVerbruik” site. On one place I found now this. service.zonneplan.nl/zonneplan-energie/uitleg-over-zonneplan-energie “Op elektriciteit zit een handling fee van €0,01653 per kWh.” Also notice that the kWh price game down for €0,05 to €0,02. ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 1:28pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2423 "2024-07-03T13:28:02Z")
@johan_W many thx for your kind donation! Much appreciated 🥰🍻 ---
**Author:** ![fmb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fmb/32/27097_2.png) [@fmb](https://community.homey.app/u/fmb)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 7:26pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2424 "2024-07-03T19:26:31Z")
These values work perfect for me for Frank Energie! (although I needed to adjust the fixed value to the current “inkoopvergoeding” + “energiebelasting” = 0,1498 (purchasing fee + energy tax) The “í” explains quite well what to enter 😉 Todays and tomorrows hourly rates of Frank Energie are shown on this page (scroll down a bit): [https://www.frankenergie.nl/nl/slimme-energie](https://www.frankenergie.nl/nl/slimme-energie) ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2425 "2024-07-03T20:32:29Z")
In case you didn’t know already, maybe interesting: [Enever.nl](https://enever.nl/) shows hourly prices of a bunch (or all) Dutch dynamic energy providers at once: > ![Screenshot_20240703-221843_Firefox](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/4/9/492f603e743545202bcd1c70e1bcbb5d149a9061.jpeg) This is also available as daily feed, and it returns all 24 hourly prices: [https://enever.nl/api/stroomprijs\_vandaag.php?token=Your\_Token](https://enever.nl/api/stroomprijs_vandaag.php?token=Your_Token) A personal token can be obtained at [enever.nl/prijzenfeeds/](https://enever.nl/prijzenfeeds/) ---
**Author:** ![Ria\_Banis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ria_banis/32/7966_2.png) [@Ria\_Banis](https://community.homey.app/u/Ria_Banis)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2024, 6:34am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2426 "2024-07-04T06:34:11Z")
Today the prices are negative for a few hours. Now I want to start my washing machine at the moment the price is negative for the first time. Perhaps I don’t look good but which card do I use? Can someone give an example flow? ---
**Author:** ![Theo\_de\_Koning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/theo_de_koning/32/136062_2.png) [@Theo\_de\_Koning](https://community.homey.app/u/Theo_de_Koning)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2024, 7:07am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2427 "2024-07-04T07:07:22Z")
Thanks for your link to enever.nl. On that moment I was juist trying to get the right “Fixed markup per kWh” price for FE. To get the PBTH graphic in line with the FE graphic. But then this morning I was looking to the enever value and was shocked. 08:00 FE €0,190 - enever €0,196811 09:00 FE €0,177 - enever €0,183948 10:00 FE €0,138 - enever €0,144950 With an Fixed markup per kWh of **0,157** I am now with the enever price. ---
**Author:** ![staeff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/staeff/32/79712_2.png) [@staeff](https://community.homey.app/u/staeff)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2024, 7:31am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2428 "2024-07-04T07:31:59Z")
Either “The price becomes one of \<1\> lowest of today” or “Price now becomes less than \<0\> c/kWh” ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2024, 10:49am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2429 "2024-07-04T10:49:26Z")
@Gerben_Plantinga many thx for your kind donation! 😍 ---
**Author:** ![Theo\_de\_Koning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/theo_de_koning/32/136062_2.png) [@Theo\_de\_Koning](https://community.homey.app/u/Theo_de_Koning)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2024, 11:31am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2430 "2024-07-04T11:31:49Z")
Finally an answer from FE on my question yesterday. Then the Enever site game on. They said not to do business with them, so the prices there can also be wrong. Where the information was to find on there side I get a very long link on my mobile. What I on the eerlijkverbruik site found on them is correct. ```auto Variabel stroom (opslag) € 0,02540 / kWh Stroom belasting € 0.13165 / kWh Tarief € / kWh € 0,15705 / kWh ``` That is what I heave found myself. Strange. For now I am fine. Learning again more, all is it by small step now. ---
**Author:** ![Ria\_Banis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ria_banis/32/7966_2.png) [@Ria\_Banis](https://community.homey.app/u/Ria_Banis)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2024, 7:22am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2431 "2024-07-05T07:22:36Z")
This flow worked yesterday: ![IMG_7209](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/8/0/80b1b4b0df9b6dedded66e1249c852224c7a237c.png) Only 0 did not work 😨 ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2024, 9:37am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2432 "2024-07-05T09:37:32Z")
> [@Ria\_Banis](#): > > Only 0 did not work Mmh. Maybe SolarEdge doesnt take 0. ---
**Author:** ![Jan\_Willem\_Visser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jan_willem_visser/32/10747_2.png) [@Jan\_Willem\_Visser](https://community.homey.app/u/Jan_Willem_Visser)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2024, 4:13pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2433 "2024-07-05T16:13:18Z")
Maybe because the price was exactly 0? You could try changing the equation to “less than or equal to” 0 [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535.md?page=118) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535.md?page=120)