# \[APP\]\[Pro\] Power by the Hour: Insights per hour, day, month and year **URL:** \ **Category:** Apps\ **Tags:** app, tools\ **Created:** [November 10, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535 "2019-11-10T22:06:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 114
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 10:58am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2311 "2024-03-27T10:58:31Z")
> [@Valtsu](#): > > becomes When a new hour starts, the price changes. The term ‘becomes’ has to do with that the flow card represents a status change that is causing the flow card to trigger. ---
**Author:** ![Valtsu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/valtsu/32/70931_2.png) [@Valtsu](https://community.homey.app/u/Valtsu)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 11:35am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2312 "2024-03-27T11:35:28Z")
So just to clarify, you are saying that “When \*\*\*\* becomes…” -flowcards trigger always if the mathematical criteria of that card is fulfilled regardless if the previous hour fulfilled the criterion or not? That is, the two alternatives in the below example always produce the same result, regardless if the previous hour was among the 4 highest: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/4/f/4f3738462ba713e549cd6cee9b31825cfaacbc19.png) ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 11:46am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2313 "2024-03-27T11:46:34Z")
> [@Valtsu](#): > > flowcards trigger always if the mathematical criteria of that card is fulfilled Correct ---
**Author:** ![Glenn\_Dijkstra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/glenn_dijkstra/32/17251_2.png) [@Glenn\_Dijkstra](https://community.homey.app/u/Glenn_Dijkstra)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 10:29am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2314 "2024-04-01T10:29:17Z")
Hi, is it correct that the pictures from Gas prices is not there anymore? ---
**Author:** ![HuisCHovens](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/huischovens/32/16973_2.png) [@HuisCHovens](https://community.homey.app/u/HuisCHovens)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 7:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2315 "2024-04-01T19:41:46Z")
@Glenn_Dijkstra Gas from ANWB is no longer updating this week. Too bad it’s been out more often lately. ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 11:42am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2316 "2024-04-07T11:42:24Z")
New version 6.4.0 is ready for testing: [Power by the Hour App for Homey | Homey](https://homey.app/a/com.gruijter.powerhour/test) - DAP: Added new price hour trigger. - DAP: Added UK Gas prices. - DAP: Fixed EGSI and EOD Gas prices. - homey-api@3.4.29 This version fixes EGSI gas prices, and adds UK gas prices. Also it adds a new trigger card ‘New price hour starts’. This card will trigger on a new hour, even when the price remains the same. Using this card makes sure all price info for the new hour is available for your flows. The existing card ‘The price has changed’ would do the same, except that it doesnt trigger when the price remains EXACTLY the same. [Gedeelde Flow | Homey](https://homey.app/nl-nl/flow/wPjmUW/) ---
**Author:** ![Marco\_Rombout](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/marco_rombout/32/47933_2.png) [@Marco\_Rombout](https://community.homey.app/u/Marco_Rombout)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 1:54pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2317 "2024-04-07T13:54:05Z")
Thanks for fixing @Gruijter it works again! ---
**Author:** ![Johan\_Bruyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bruyn/32/132683_2.png) [@Johan\_Bruyn](https://community.homey.app/u/Johan_Bruyn)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2318 "2024-04-11T15:58:16Z")
Just a quick question, at what time will the prices for tomorrow be announced? And another thing, how can you make a donation without pay pal? ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 4:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2319 "2024-04-11T16:47:10Z")
> [@Johan\_Bruyn](#): > > what time will the prices for tomorrow be announced Usually just after 13hrs. > [@Johan\_Bruyn](#): > > how can you make a donation without pay pal? I only have a paypal donate link. But if you cannot sleep I could send a tikkie via DM.😉 ---
**Author:** ![Torch1969](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/torch1969/32/33305_2.png) [@Torch1969](https://community.homey.app/u/Torch1969)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 5:30am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2320 "2024-04-16T05:30:54Z")
Somehow the capability “kWh this hour” isn’t updated anymore in summarizer devices. Started after 13:00 yesterday. Report 3e09fb16-25a5-4584-9489-eae799dbc0f3 As far as I can see in logging nothing unusual happened (only battery started charging at 13:00:05 and new prices received at 13:04). A restart of the app solves this problem, but a few weeks ago I had the same. Some of my flows use this capability for some (dis)charge logic for my home battery. @Gruijter maybe you can look into this when you have time. ---
**Author:** ![Mike1233](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mike1233/32/20991_2.png) [@Mike1233](https://community.homey.app/u/Mike1233)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 5:44am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2321 "2024-04-16T05:44:18Z")
@Gruijter I did have the same problem like @Torch1969 with updating “this hour”. After a restart of the app it is updated and working for a couple of days. Did not make a report then. It happend on the HP19 and the HP23. For now it is working again for a couple of days. Will make a report if it happens again. ---
**Author:** ![Torch1969](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/torch1969/32/33305_2.png) [@Torch1969](https://community.homey.app/u/Torch1969)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 5:50pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2322 "2024-04-17T17:50:20Z")
> [@Gruijter](#): > > AI based price predictions. Lets PBTH see 24 hrs further into the future. > > ![1000001666](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/0/5/05e92c88ea2fa5ae62e168c522530b67895bdee9.jpeg) > > The light grey bars are predicted prices. After using this feature for some months now I must conclude the prediction (for NL prices) is not good enough to be usefull in my use case’s. I disabled the feature and will check somewhere in the future if the “AI” is getting better. Anyone using this prediction in a reliable way? ---
**Author:** ![Mike1233](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mike1233/32/20991_2.png) [@Mike1233](https://community.homey.app/u/Mike1233)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 6:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2323 "2024-04-18T18:49:32Z")
@Gruijter kWh this hour has stopped again. 1838beaf-d313-4366-8a86-0081406e2a70 ![SmartSelect_20240418_204537_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/0/8/08be7a781ebe72b8f0e42a4cae206b50c820bfff.jpeg) ![SmartSelect_20240418_204558_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/b/7/b7463cf0232597502e907840c13c3868c0b05fb1.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 1:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2324 "2024-04-20T13:35:25Z")
> [@Torch1969](#): > > the prediction (for NL prices) is not good enough to be usefull in my use case’s It is indeed off. But good enough to use in ROI battery charging calculations. Without the prediction my batteries would be way less active. ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 1:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2325 "2024-04-20T13:36:41Z")
Sorry, I cannot reproduce this and have no clue why your updates are halting. I created a new version with a new homey-api. There is a very slim chance that helps… ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 1:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2326 "2024-04-20T13:37:38Z")
new version 6.4.1 is available for test: [Power by the Hour App for Homey | Homey](https://homey.app/a/com.gruijter.powerhour/test/) - Updated German translation (Thx @DirkG ) - homey-api@3.4.32 ---
**Author:** ![OH2TH](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/oh2th/32/111414_2.png) [@OH2TH](https://community.homey.app/u/OH2TH)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 4:47am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2327 "2024-04-21T04:47:47Z")
Since the beginning of April, I have a contract where I can choose to use: - spot price as is - 50% fixed price / 50% spot price (have no idea how this is calculated) - 100% fixed price This choice can be made on monthly basis in advance. On the energy summarizer settings, would it be possible to have action cards to: - Set the active tariff `price`. - Set the tariff update group to `number`. This would allow switching between fixed pricing and different update groups for the summarizer from a flow. I.e. Midnight on the first day of the month. Opened [Action cards to set energy summarizer pricing · Issue #223 · gruijter/com.gruijter.powerhour · GitHub](https://github.com/gruijter/com.gruijter.powerhour/issues/223) ---
**Author:** ![Eastmaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@Eastmaster](https://community.homey.app/u/Eastmaster)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 11:06am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2328 "2024-04-22T11:06:20Z")
I’m using this flow cart to start the heat pump for my house heating. I would like to run it in the 6 cheapest consecutive hours of the day. What is a good way to stop it after 6 hours? I put in a timer for 6 hours, but this cart restarts every hour during the cheapest 6 hours. ![Scherm­afbeelding 2024-04-22 om 13.00.56](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/0/7/07db99aaaec8dc67b8d1de2476f26a48bf240340.png) ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 11:31am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2329 "2024-04-22T11:31:35Z")
Use the AND-card and you can do this: ![heater](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/8/9/895a026a2966e0e4ba7680e16fc231a2d00ea11d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Mike1233](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mike1233/32/20991_2.png) [@Mike1233](https://community.homey.app/u/Mike1233)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2330 "2024-04-22T20:26:41Z")
@Gruijter I have tried the new version but “kWh Dit uur” is not updating after a day. HP19. 76b75473-1b6b-433f-9636-11f2c709bd4b After a reset of the PBTH app it works again. a028a1bd-112a-4b31-8e43-79647d7fd7f5 [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535.md?page=113) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535.md?page=115)