# \[APP\]\[Pro\] Power by the Hour \[Feature Requests\]

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740>\
**Category:** Ideas & Suggestions\
**Tags:** app, homey-pro\
**Created:** [October 2, 2022, 9:14am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740 "2022-10-02T09:14:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 9:14am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/1 "2022-10-02T09:14:03Z")

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In this time of energy/price crisis, saving energy and money can be a big deal.

This thread can be used to discuss new features for Power by the Hour.

> **[Power by the Hour](https://homey.app/en-gb/app/com.gruijter.powerhour/Power-by-the-Hour/)**
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> Summarize the energy/water usage or (solar) production per hour, day, month and year. Use dynamic tariffs.

For non-feature request support, when you have problems with the app or need assistance on how to best use it, please use the support forum link: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour: Insights per hour, day, month and year](https://community.homey.app/t/20535)

Features on the todo list so far:

- ~~add fixed monthly costs: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #2 by Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/t/69740/2)~~ **Done in v4.7.2**
- maximum energy price for Day Ahead Pricing: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #3 by Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/t/69740/3)
- ~~Make it possible to add an extra Summarizer: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #4 by Dijker](https://community.homey.app/t/69740/4)~~ **Done in v4.6.2**
- ~~maximum electric price of the day: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #6 by Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/t/69740/6)~~ **Done in v4.6.2**
- ~~create tariff update groups: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #13 by Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/t/69740/13)~~ **Done in v4.7.1**
- ~~avg. price tomorrow : [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #14 by Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/t/69740/14)~~ **Done in v4.6.2**
- ~~4 different fixed markups: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #15 by Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/t/69740/15)~~ **Done in v5.4.0**
- Pick x cheapest hours between (tag) and (tag): [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #39](https://community.homey.app/t/69740/39)
- ~~increase hours window \>8: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #64 by Tycho](https://community.homey.app/t/69740/64)~~ **Done**
- ~~Homey Energy total consumption as source: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #53 by Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/t/69740/53)~~ **Done in v4.8.0**
- ~~Add all day ahead gas prices from powernext: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #54 by Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/t/69740/54)~~ **Done in v5.0.0**
- ~~Handle Daylight Savings Time (DST) when clock moves forward: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #56 by Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/t/69740/56)~~ **Done in v5.0.0**
- ~~show “kWh prev. day”: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #60 by JeeHaa](https://community.homey.app/t/69740/60)~~ **Done in v4.9.0**
- Average price next\* **xx** \*minutes is the lowest of the day: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #65 by ubram](https://community.homey.app/t/69740/65)
- ~~Show lowest/highest price/hour for the next 8H: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #68 by Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/t/69740/68)~~ **Done in v4.9.1**
- ~~add support of the Qubino 3-Phase SmartMeter: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #73 by DirkG](https://community.homey.app/t/69740/73)~~ **Done in v5.0.1**
- ~~wait for meter update before new hour: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #74 by Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/t/69740/74)~~ **Done in v5.0.3**
- ~~implement daily max. usage gas and electricity table for NL ‘prijsplafond’ 2023: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #75 by Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/t/69740/75)~~ **Done in v5.0.2**
- ~~add user budget/target distribution setting: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #84 by Torch1969](https://community.homey.app/t/69740/84)~~ **Done in v5.3.0**
- ~~average price per month/year. [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #91 by Albin\_Hultgren](https://community.homey.app/t/69740/91)~~ **Done in v5.3.0**
- ~~lowest/highest price use all upcoming hours: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #94 by TKroon](https://community.homey.app/t/69740/94)~~ **Done in v5.6.4**
- ~~repair to source device: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #116 by erlend\_oyen](https://community.homey.app/t/69740/116)~~ **Done in v5.9.0**
- ~~Add Victron battery support: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #129 by Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/129)~~ **Done in v5.6.6**
- ~~retrieve todays/tomorrows prices as JSON: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #134 by Patric\_Hedin](https://community.homey.app/t/69740/134)~~ **Done in v5.6.9**
- ~~dynamic power on battery ROI: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #143 by ErikT](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/143)~~ **Done in v6.0.0**
- Selectable source capabilitie(s): [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #152 by Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/152)
- ~~DAP price ranking: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #157 by Torch1969](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/157)~~ **Done in v5.9.3**
- ~~BATT reset kWh values: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #157 by Torch1969](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/157)~~ **Done in v5.9.3**
- ~~Avg. price this month/last month: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #160 by OH2TH](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/160)~~ **Done in v6.3.0**
- ~~variable markup based on the absolute value of the price: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour [Feature Requests] - #165 by CaptainVoni](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/165)~~ **Done in v6.3.0**

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 8:15am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/2 "2022-10-02T08:15:48Z")

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There is a feature request to add fixed monthly costs to PBTH. See here: [Add daily and monthly fixed cost · Issue #59 · gruijter/com.gruijter.powerhour · GitHub](https://github.com/gruijter/com.gruijter.powerhour/issues/59)

IMO it only makes sense for your main meter, not for individual socket level meters. But please contribute to the discussion and let me know how important this function is for you all. Or should I invest my energy and time in other stuff?

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 7:03pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/3 "2022-10-04T19:03:08Z")

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Feature request: implement a maximum energy price for Day Ahead Pricing. See the new Dutch regulation for 2023: [Vanaf 1 januari lagere energierekening door verruimd prijsplafond | Nieuwsbericht | Rijksoverheid.nl](https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/actueel/nieuws/2022/10/04/vanaf-1-januari-lagere-energierekening-door-verruimd-prijsplafond)

But it is yet unclear how the price ceiling will be implemented with dynamic contracts: [Prijsplafond energie mogelijk voordeliger voor mensen met 'dynamisch' contract | Kostencrisis | NU.nl](https://www.nu.nl/kostencrisis/6228304/prijsplafond-energie-mogelijk-voordeliger-voor-mensen-met-dynamisch-contract.html)

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**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 9:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/4 "2022-10-04T21:05:55Z")

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I wanted to calculate the difference between my current contact (High / Low tarif) and an optional Hourly changing tarif (Tibber, ANWB, etc.)

Therefore I wanted two (or more) Power summarizers

1. one with the High and Low tarif configured with the additional monthly fees
2. one with the DAP pricing and monthly fees for one of those energy companies.

Currently it is only possible to have one Power (or Gas Summarizer) configured.

Having the possibility to add a second (or more) Summarizer for one P1 Electricity/Gas meter would make it visible what your current (past) usage pattern would do to your energy bill switching to an hourly contract.

Current workaround (Thanks @Gruijter ) but not yet tested.

- Clone your P1 with a Virtual Device. =\> Summarize this.

Feature requests:

- Make it possible to add an extra Summarizer (without having to clone the P1 Meter 😉 )
- Add a option to add a Monthly fee calculation to the Summarizer to have a direct comparison between two contracts.
- have an option to update one Summarizer with the DAP + fixed markup and % Markup
- have an option to set fe according to schedule Fixed Day / Night tariff on the other Summarizer

Then only have to find all fee’s / markup / taxes in the contracts to calculate the total energy bill in Homey.

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**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 9:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/5 "2022-10-04T21:37:14Z")

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Being interested in investing in an Home Battery to store my Daily generated solar energy, I want to know what it would save me om usage (money) in fe the night or expensive hours.

Seeing my nightly usage I can guesstimate that for ~8 or 9 months a year a fe 8 - 10 kWh would be more than enough. Other months I may still need a couple of days / hours a day the grid.

At this moment in The Netherlands it is probably not economical as we have the consolidation (“salderingsregeling”) that consolidates on a year all returned energy.  
This is also one of the reasons I won’t switch right away to a hourly based contract.

Feature request:

- A Virtual battery (with a certain configurable Capacity in kWh)

- that calculates the charged capacity (Battery Full %) on fe % returned energy from P1 until 100% full

- and calculates (fe on DAP triff) the savings by not returning % of Solar Generated energy while charging (Charge Capacity \* tariff)

- and calculating the not consumed energy while discharging. (To\_be\_Not\_Consumed \* Tariff)

- This will result in “Virtual Savings” by the battery

Knowing the approximately investment of a Battery vs the savings / month it can predict a ROI for your usage pattern giving your configured tariff for energy.

(Yeah I know this Feature Request is a Pretty complex one, but imo better here (PBTH) in a neutral app than in a vendor specific (Sessy, solaredge, etc… ) app or a separate app (PBTH has many insights like the tariff and P1 usage already)

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 3:02am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/6 "2022-10-05T03:02:46Z")

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> [@\[APP\]\[Pro\] Power by the Hour: Insights per hour, day, month and year](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/876):
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> Any chance of getting the maximum electric price of the day, and not only the lowest?

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**Author:** ![Toremann](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/toremann/32/73656_2.png) [@Toremann](https://community.homey.app/u/Toremann)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 5:36am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/7 "2022-10-05T05:36:06Z")

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Even more complex in Norway…

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**Author:** ![Mark\_Jiskoot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mark_jiskoot/32/11508_2.png) [@Mark\_Jiskoot](https://community.homey.app/u/Mark_Jiskoot)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 9:55pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/8 "2022-10-05T21:55:53Z")

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Hi Gruijter, I like to make a flow where I can tell via a push notification to my household when it is the cheapest time to charge (bicycles, car and run dishwasher). this can be spread throughout the day. Like to have something like. User XYZ the best (cheapest time) to run your equipment in the next x hours is the following order : 23:00 16:00 2:00 3:00 1:00 ect. (in this example 23:00 cheapest and then increasing)  
Any suggestion how to create something like this making use of your app.

Br Mark

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 8:41am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/9 "2022-10-06T08:41:22Z")

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> <https://github.com/gruijter/com.gruijter.powerhour/issues/63>
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> Hi, Is it possible to change the flow update tariff so you select witch device y…ou want to update. 
> Want to have different tariff on my energy meters.
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> /Albin

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 8:43am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/10 "2022-10-06T08:43:56Z")

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> [@Dijker](#):
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> Make it possible to add an extra Summarizer

I can do that, but it means that all power devices will always show up during pair. Even the ones you already added. Is anyone against implementing this? Then let us know, otherwise I will put this on the todo list

> [@Dijker](#):
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> add a Monthly fee calculation

Yes, is the same as #2. Will put it on the list.

> [@Dijker](#):
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> update one Summarizer with the DAP + fixed markup and % Markup

This is the current functionality already. Or do you mean something else?

> [@Dijker](#):
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> schedule Fixed Day / Night tariff

This you can already do now using a flow to set day/night tariff.

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 8:57am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/11 "2022-10-06T08:57:49Z")

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> [@Dijker](#):
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> Virtual battery (with a certain configurable Capacity in kWh

This is indeed a pretty complex one. I will not put it on the todo list yet. Maybe when I get to start working on the Sessy app I will reconsider. [Sessy thuisbatterij - wie heeft interesse in een App?](https://community.homey.app/t/68327)

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 9:05am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/12 "2022-10-06T09:05:14Z")

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> [@Mark\_Jiskoot](#):
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> flow where I can tell via a push notification to my household when it is the cheapest time to charge

I fully understand your request. But creating configurable push messages **in a user friendly way** is not easy in Homey, and I am struggling with how to do that.

What I do myself is send a whatsapp message to myself and my wife when a cheap hour starts. Also Homey then says: ‘It is now a good time to start the washing machine @ xx euro/kWh’

Secondly, I send a whatsapp message to myself whenever Homey receives new tariffs. I created a flowcard especially for that. It will give you all tariffs for the day, startting at 0hrs. It is not very user friendly, but at least I can see all tariffs of the day by opening the message.

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 9:42am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/13 "2022-10-06T09:42:28Z")

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> [@Gruijter](#):
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> possible to change the flow update tariff so you select witch device

I might create tariff update groups. So that from the DAP device you can select which Summarizer group to update. And in the summarizer you should then also be able to select which tariff group to use. Or would that be too complex to setup as a user?

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 9:50am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/14 "2022-10-06T09:50:42Z")

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> [@\[APP\]\[Pro\] Power by the Hour: Insights per hour, day, month and year](https://community.homey.app/t/20535/877):
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> Could avg. price tomorrow be added and updated as soon as tomorrows prices are announced?

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 9:55am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/15 "2022-10-06T09:55:04Z")

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> [@\[APP\]\[Pro\] Power by the Hour: Insights per hour, day, month and year](https://community.homey.app/t/20535/855):
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> First of all, thank you for a great app. In Denmark will 4 different fixed markups (00:00-06:00, 06:00-17:00, 17:00-21:00 and 21:00-24:00) for the power price be implemented by the start of next year. In the app is it today posible to add extra markups only for night and day time, but the start and end times are fixed. Would it be possible to change the app to have 4 extra markups, where the start and end time could be entered for each one? I have created a flow that changes the markup at the sp…

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**Author:** ![Albin\_Hultgren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/albin_hultgren/32/62227_2.png) [@Albin\_Hultgren](https://community.homey.app/u/Albin_Hultgren)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 10:09am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/16 "2022-10-06T10:09:48Z")

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 10:11am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/17 "2022-10-06T10:11:06Z")

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 11:02am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/19 "2022-10-08T11:02:13Z")

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> [@Gruijter](#):
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> I can do that, but it means that all power devices will always show up during pair. Even the ones you already added. Is anyone against implementing this?

No, for me the upside is way better than the downside

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 2:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/20 "2022-10-08T14:04:33Z")

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New version is ready with some of the feature requests implemented 🥳

 ![Screenshot_20221008-160237_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/e/6/e6e03f9da43cccf65a38fb83975a3e81496c604b.jpeg)

v4.6.2: [Power by the Hour App for Homey | Homey](https://homey.app/a/com.gruijter.powerhour/test)

- Added ability to add same summarizer multiple times.
- Added maximum price and hour as capability.
- Added average price tomorrow as capability.

@Dijker @Peter_Kawa @Toremann @Orodreth This version is especially for you ❤

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 2:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740/21 "2022-10-08T14:36:29Z")

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Question on #2 : add fixed monthly cost.

I am thinking of doing it this way:  
It will be part of the summarizer device, not the DAP device.  
In the device settings you can optionally set a fixed amount that is added start of every month, and a fixed amount that is added start of every day.

Would that cover the needs @Dijker @Schenkie @paxus42 ?

[Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-feature-requests/69740.md?page=2)
