# \[APP\]\[PRO\] Plugwise Smile P1 - Dutch and Belgian Smart Meter Reader **URL:** \ **Category:** Apps\ **Tags:** app\ **Created:** [January 26, 2019, 3:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-plugwise-smile-p1-dutch-and-belgian-smart-meter-reader/8012 "2019-01-26T15:15:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 6:45pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-plugwise-smile-p1-dutch-and-belgian-smart-meter-reader/8012/185 "2022-02-15T18:45:56Z")
v4.2.2 has been released earlier this week. - Changed internal FLOW code. - Fix flow AND card for tariff sometimes incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![Gigi9](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gigi9/32/54593_2.png) [@Gigi9](https://community.homey.app/u/Gigi9)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2022, 3:17pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-plugwise-smile-p1-dutch-and-belgian-smart-meter-reader/8012/186 "2022-05-01T15:17:12Z")
Hi! I’ve been searching everywhere and can’t find an answer. My Plugwise Smile P1 (V3) doesn’t seem to want to connect to my smart meter. It’s a Landis + Gyr E360. Any ideas on what I can try? Thnx! ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2022, 3:31pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-plugwise-smile-p1-dutch-and-belgian-smart-meter-reader/8012/187 "2022-05-01T15:31:41Z")
When I google on the smart meter you have I do find multiple reports that the P1 output is very problematic. > [@Gigi9](#): > > searching everywhere I suppose you already contacted Plugwise about this. What did they say? ---
**Author:** ![Gigi9](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gigi9/32/54593_2.png) [@Gigi9](https://community.homey.app/u/Gigi9)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2022, 5:22pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-plugwise-smile-p1-dutch-and-belgian-smart-meter-reader/8012/188 "2022-05-01T17:22:17Z")
Haven’t received a reply yet. Will let you know as soon as I have 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gigi9](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gigi9/32/54593_2.png) [@Gigi9](https://community.homey.app/u/Gigi9)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 8:54am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-plugwise-smile-p1-dutch-and-belgian-smart-meter-reader/8012/189 "2022-05-04T08:54:56Z")
I got a reply from Plugwise. Apparently the meter I have has a P1 port that isn’t “pure” enough. The data that it’s passing isn’t “low” or “high”, so it’s seen as corrupt and is therefore unreadable for the Smile P1. They also said that this problem of “unpure” P1 port persist with most of the newest smart meters. They give two options to mitigate it: 1. Contacting the installation company to install a different meter (i.e. I think an older model smart meter with a pure P1 port. 2. Using an Active P1 Port Splitter, which “purifies” the data so that the Smile P1 can read it. With an extra benefit that you then have an extra P1 port in case this is needed. They recommend using this one: [https://www.tech4ushop.nl/p1h-005.html](https://www.tech4ushop.nl/p1h-005.html). They also said that it’ll work. (This is translated from Dutch to English) The first option is very time consuming. So I’ve ordered this splitter (though I’m a bit salty that I need to spend extra cash (not just for the splitter, the power and cable you have to purchase separately. Plus it’s an extra socket I need to use in the utility closet). Once my order has arrived and I’ve installed it, I’ll post an update. Fair warning, the webshop doesn’t offer the smoothest shopping experience. I did send Plugwise an email back stating that I hope they do something to their firmware, since it’s ridiculous that I have to by an add-on product from a third party to make their device work as advertised. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 9:20am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-plugwise-smile-p1-dutch-and-belgian-smart-meter-reader/8012/190 "2022-05-04T09:20:37Z")
From what I understand, some smart meters (including the one you have) need a pull-up resistor to be able to work properly (it’ll make the signal more decisively high/low). It’s a (very cheap) hardware modification that Plugwise could have added to their device. ---
**Author:** ![Gigi9](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gigi9/32/54593_2.png) [@Gigi9](https://community.homey.app/u/Gigi9)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 1:23pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-plugwise-smile-p1-dutch-and-belgian-smart-meter-reader/8012/191 "2022-06-06T13:23:18Z")
Sorry for the late update. I’ve installed the splitter and the data comes in on the Plugwise App. I still need to figure out how to make this work in the Homey App, since it doesn’t seem to find the device. But honestly, I’m very underwhelmed. Not worth the money. ---
**Author:** ![RonnO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronno/32/11399_2.png) [@RonnO](https://community.homey.app/u/RonnO)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 4:30pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-plugwise-smile-p1-dutch-and-belgian-smart-meter-reader/8012/192 "2022-09-22T16:30:30Z")
Hi Robin, When I would like to see ‘Low tariff = YES’ in my Homey screen, what advanced setting should I activate? ![Plugwise advsett](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/2/8/280f01acf7ca6bddcd0e8fd0e1b9c7098aac1f9a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 4:50pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-plugwise-smile-p1-dutch-and-belgian-smart-meter-reader/8012/193 "2022-09-22T16:50:14Z")
Mmh. Maybe I did not implement that in the Smile app 😬😅 In that case you could delete the device and select the right options during re-pairing. But you will lose all your history/insights and it will break existing flows… ---
**Author:** ![Robin\_van\_Kekem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robin_van_kekem/32/8187_2.png) [@Robin\_van\_Kekem](https://community.homey.app/u/Robin_van_Kekem)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 9:56am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-plugwise-smile-p1-dutch-and-belgian-smart-meter-reader/8012/195 "2022-11-15T09:56:33Z")
Anyone knows how Homey handles two smart meter data readers? I have an Eneco Toon but the connection is very instable. I’d like to use an Plugwise P1 to read the power and gas however I don’t want do remove Toon from my Homey. Thus Homey has two energy readers. ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 11:17am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-plugwise-smile-p1-dutch-and-belgian-smart-meter-reader/8012/196 "2022-11-15T11:17:50Z")
You can deselect the option that the device is used in Homey Energy as total. ![Screenshot_20221115-121500_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/a/1/a18392d101d4ad8694682eb22f1721efe84768b9.jpeg) But I dont think you can deselect it as a socket level meter for Homey Energy. But how does Toon know your P1 energy usage? Does it also have a P1 connection? If so, what happens if you simply disconnect that? ---
**Author:** ![Robin\_van\_Kekem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robin_van_kekem/32/8187_2.png) [@Robin\_van\_Kekem](https://community.homey.app/u/Robin_van_Kekem)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 11:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-plugwise-smile-p1-dutch-and-belgian-smart-meter-reader/8012/197 "2022-11-15T11:48:07Z")
Yes, Toon has a P1 connection. That would be an option but since Toon is a sort of tablet, it would be nice if I can see the values there also. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/7/777763be780d185d32be33ede942c8dfa0d4ff34.png) ---
**Author:** ![B3rt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/b3rt/32/9435_2.png) [@B3rt](https://community.homey.app/u/B3rt)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 2:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-plugwise-smile-p1-dutch-and-belgian-smart-meter-reader/8012/198 "2022-11-20T14:04:17Z")
Hi, Have a question regarding the gas usage… When i look into the actual gas usage (via Homey) then this is seldom used, when someone is in the shower (or the heating is on) then it still shows 0 usage. When i hover over the time then it seems it checks this in large intervals (1 hour or so) ![2022-11-20_ 150350](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/5/4/545c0163408d514299493879e9c0cfc1ab27703c.png) Is there any way to get actual live gas usage data? ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 2:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-plugwise-smile-p1-dutch-and-belgian-smart-meter-reader/8012/199 "2022-11-20T14:08:44Z")
Your smartmeter dictates how often gas is updated. Old smartmeters update once an hour. New ones every 5 minutes. So if you want faster updates ask for a new meter. ---
**Author:** ![B3rt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/b3rt/32/9435_2.png) [@B3rt](https://community.homey.app/u/B3rt)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 2:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-plugwise-smile-p1-dutch-and-belgian-smart-meter-reader/8012/200 "2022-11-20T14:25:24Z")
that is strange, energy (power) is updated live, so why is gas updated once per hour… ---
**Author:** ![B3rt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/b3rt/32/9435_2.png) [@B3rt](https://community.homey.app/u/B3rt)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 2:38pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-plugwise-smile-p1-dutch-and-belgian-smart-meter-reader/8012/201 "2022-11-20T14:38:20Z")
Could there be a speed/update difference between the P1 v2 and the P1 v3? ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 2:42pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-plugwise-smile-p1-dutch-and-belgian-smart-meter-reader/8012/202 "2022-11-20T14:42:11Z")
It is exactly as I already stated. Nothing I or Plugwise can do there… ---
**Author:** ![Caseda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caseda/32/138695_2.png) [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 5:01pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-plugwise-smile-p1-dutch-and-belgian-smart-meter-reader/8012/203 "2022-11-20T17:01:02Z")
The P1 device is inside the kWh meter, getting power constantly so able to update constantly, the gas meter needs to send its data to the P1 device inside the kWh meter, this is usually done wireless, as there is no cable between the gasmeter and the kWh meter. I believe it builds up his power by spinning a tiny dynamo (or something) on Gas usage, so won’t have constant power, the newer meters can send more often cause they are just more energy efficient. The screen of the gas meter is also off most of the time (at least that is the case here) and has that very same behaviour, to not use much energy. (almost as if it is a battery device, trying to save as much energy as possible) ---
**Author:** ![TKroon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tkroon/32/9504_2.png) [@TKroon](https://community.homey.app/u/TKroon)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 7:52pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-plugwise-smile-p1-dutch-and-belgian-smart-meter-reader/8012/204 "2023-01-12T19:52:45Z")
Plugwise added some nice information in the Smile. The power is visible per phase, and also the voltage. If possible, could you add this to the Homey app please? ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/2/c/2c8ac0701a8ed4d268ff084d60283ab125caeb4e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 7:56pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-plugwise-smile-p1-dutch-and-belgian-smart-meter-reader/8012/205 "2023-01-12T19:56:14Z")
Ah, interesting. Ill check it out when I have some time. [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-plugwise-smile-p1-dutch-and-belgian-smart-meter-reader/8012.md?page=9) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-plugwise-smile-p1-dutch-and-belgian-smart-meter-reader/8012.md?page=11)