# \[APP\]\[Pro\] Philips Hue Zigbee (Without the bridge)

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734>\
**Category:** Apps\
**Tags:** app, zigbee\
**Created:** [May 12, 2020, 11:53am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734 "2020-05-12T11:53:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Wout-1976](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/wout-1976/32/175413_2.png) [@Wout-1976](https://community.homey.app/u/Wout-1976)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2020, 1:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/157 "2020-10-04T13:15:42Z")

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Currently on 5.0,o rc 34.  
Philips Hue 2.0.7.

Bulb 14 candle white ambiance can not find by the app.  
Already did a reset with Hue dimmer several times. 😉

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**Author:** ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2020, 2:07pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/158 "2020-10-04T14:07:48Z")

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Hi @Wout-1976, what’s the product ID for the unit? (connect the unit as generic Zigbee and look in device settings).

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**Author:** ![Wout-1976](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/wout-1976/32/175413_2.png) [@Wout-1976](https://community.homey.app/u/Wout-1976)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2020, 2:22pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/159 "2020-10-04T14:22:05Z")

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Perhaps a stupid question.  
How can i put the HUe lamp in learning mode?

( i did search but did not find the aswere)

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**Author:** ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2020, 2:42pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/160 "2020-10-04T14:42:51Z")

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Hue bulbs are set into learning mode either by resetting them using Hue hub or a remote like the Dimmer Switch. A Hue bulb that is not connected to a smart controller should be reset and will announce itself to any controller when powered on, if not one will have to reset it using above method.

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**Author:** ![Wout-1976](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/wout-1976/32/175413_2.png) [@Wout-1976](https://community.homey.app/u/Wout-1976)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/162 "2020-10-04T14:56:00Z")

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Reset i already knew Roy. But not that the reset should put them in learning mode.

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**Author:** ![Wout-1976](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/wout-1976/32/175413_2.png) [@Wout-1976](https://community.homey.app/u/Wout-1976)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2020, 6:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/163 "2020-10-04T18:14:49Z")

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After trying several times and reset the Zigbee network it works again! 👍

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**Author:** ![Bob\_Jooren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bob_jooren/32/11834_2.png) [@Bob\_Jooren](https://community.homey.app/u/Bob_Jooren)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 9:42am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/164 "2020-10-05T09:42:21Z")

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hi @johan_bendz,

I’ve been trying to add the Resonate Wall lamp, but it seems to be added as a Unknown Zigbee Device only. I’m running Homey version 5.0.0-rc.34 and Philips Hue Zigbee app version 2.0.8.

Looking at the product ID (1746430P7) of the lamp I’m trying to add, I see that it differs from the Resonate product ID in the list at the top of the topic.

Any suggestions how to use the full potential of the lamp? I can now only switch it on and off. Thanks!

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**Author:** ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 10:03am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/165 "2020-10-05T10:03:46Z")

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Hi @Bob_Jooren, it looks like the difference is just the color of the device. I will add your product ID to the app.

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**Author:** ![Bob\_Jooren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bob_jooren/32/11834_2.png) [@Bob\_Jooren](https://community.homey.app/u/Bob_Jooren)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 10:15am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/166 "2020-10-05T10:15:10Z")

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Will this solve the functionality / Unknown Zigbee Device issue then?

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**Author:** ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 10:25am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/167 "2020-10-05T10:25:40Z")

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Hi again. Yes, the device will work as it should after the update and re-pairing.

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**Author:** ![Ricardo\_Nunes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ricardo_nunes/32/30598_2.png) [@Ricardo\_Nunes](https://community.homey.app/u/Ricardo_Nunes)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 9:07pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/168 "2020-10-05T21:07:25Z")

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I’m thinking about buying the outdoor motion sensor, but now that I’m reading your comments, I’m kind of unsure, does the outdoor motion sensor not work well with this philips app?

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**Author:** ![Ricardo\_Nunes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ricardo_nunes/32/30598_2.png) [@Ricardo\_Nunes](https://community.homey.app/u/Ricardo_Nunes)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 6:10am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/170 "2020-10-06T06:10:01Z")

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Hum ok, I’ll try one than anyway, I need a motion sensor that can be placed on the rain.

Just another question if you may help me, does this sensor trigger with human being only, or birds and smaller animals can trigger this sensor to?

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**Author:** ![rvdeijk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rvdeijk/32/22542_2.png) [@rvdeijk](https://community.homey.app/u/rvdeijk)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 11:35am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/171 "2020-10-06T11:35:29Z")

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@johan_bendz  
I made a [github](https://github.com/JohanBendz/com.philips.hue.zigbee/issues/238) request to add the [Filament G125 (E27)](https://www.philips-hue.com/nl-nl/p/hue-white-filament-1-pack-g125-e27-globe-met-zichtbare-gloeidraad/8719514279131) (aka Globe XL)

 ![Screenshot_20201006-125749_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/0/0/00f560d816ef3eb4d60c25cec4854b5e528105e9.jpeg)

I do have Homey 4.2.0 with Philips Hue Zigbee app 1.6.1  
If the device is already added in the latest Philips Hue Zigbee app 2.0.10, then ignore my request 😄

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**Author:** ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/173 "2020-10-06T15:55:17Z")

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Hi @rvdeijk. it’s not. I will add it to my todo list 🙂  
Thanks for the request, I appreciate you took the effort to register an issue at github!

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**Author:** ![Ricardo\_Nunes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ricardo_nunes/32/30598_2.png) [@Ricardo\_Nunes](https://community.homey.app/u/Ricardo_Nunes)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 5:59pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/174 "2020-10-06T17:59:21Z")

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Ouhhh 😅  
I thought you were using it outside.  
Ok, thanks anyway!

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**Author:** ![gregory75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gregory75/32/17337_2.png) [@gregory75](https://community.homey.app/u/gregory75)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/175 "2020-10-07T17:27:05Z")

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@johan_bendz Blinking aka flashing lights does it have to be implemented by athom or can you implement it in your hue zigbee app? Just wondering.

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**Author:** ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 9:40pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/176 "2020-10-07T21:40:12Z")

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Hi there @gregory75.  
Hmm, I will have to look into that. I will have to do something to make it happen no matter 🙂

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**Author:** ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/177 "2020-10-07T21:47:15Z")

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I got a pm asking me how I handle Dimmer Switch and dimming of lights.  
This is how I handle it 😃

First I create a Logic variable - name it “Dim up/down status” and make it a Yes/No type with default value of No

Then I create five flows.

Flow 1 - Dim up start  
When: Dimmer Switch Card - Dim buttons - Dim-up hold  
Then: Flow Card - Start “Dim up 20%”

Flow 2 - Dim down start  
When: Dimmer Switch Card - Dim buttons - Dim-down hold  
Then: Flow Card - Start “Dim down 20%”

Flow 3 - Dim up 20%  
When: Flow Card - This flow is started  
And: Logic Card - “Dim up/down status” is equal to Yes  
Then (first card): Select your Hue Light device - Set relative dim-level - set dim level to +20% and set During to 1 sec  
Then (second card): Flow Card - Start “Dim up 20%” after 1 sec

Flow 4 - Dim down 20%  
When: Flow Card - This flow is started  
And: Logic Card - “Dim up/down status” is equal to Yes  
Then (first card): Select your Hue Light device - Set relative dim-level - set dim level to -20% and set During to 1 sec  
Then (second card): Flow Card - Start “Dim down 20%” after 1 sec

Flow 5 - Dim stop  
When: Flow Card - This flow is started  
Then: Logic Card - Set “Dim up/down status” to No

While setting up the cards you will have to save without setting all cards and go back later to be able to set what flow to start in what card since the flows must exist before pointing to them.

You can tweak the experience by changing duration and %, Good luck and have fun 😃

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**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 7:45am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/178 "2020-10-08T07:45:48Z")

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> [@johan\_bendz](#):
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> Hmm, I will have to look into that. I will have to do something to make it happen no matter 🙂

That would be great!!! 👍🏽

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**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 8:30am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/179 "2020-10-08T08:30:08Z")

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> [@johan\_bendz](#):
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> Flow 2 - Dim down start  
> When: Dimmer Switch Card - Dim buttons - Dim-down hold  
> Then: Flow Card - Start “Dim down 20%”

Sorry for the stupid question, but I only have the option “dim up” and not “dim down”. I also cannot negate the action card.  
I could only use the card “Set relative dimming level” and set a negative value. ❓

**Edit:** This post was written in mental absence! 😂

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