# \[APP\]\[Pro\] Philips Hue Zigbee (Without the bridge)

**URL:** https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734
**Category:** Apps
**Tags:** app, zigbee
**Created:** [May 12, 2020, 11:53am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734 "2020-05-12T11:53:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 43

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### Author: ![Rutgert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rutgert/32/43361_2.png) [@Rutgert](https://community.homey.app/u/Rutgert)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2023, 7:51am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/880 "2023-10-25T07:51:09Z")

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Hi there!

First of all, thank for creating the app!

I just bought the Philips hue lightstrip, and I want to have a simpel automation with ‘when the motion sensor turns on, the light strip will turn on’ the only thing is that I see in the ‘then’ section, is two options. (See picture) is there someone who can help me?

Thanks in advance!

 ![IMG_2070](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/c/c/cc3c6178d44895f4011dd35524ace5ca5049510b.jpeg)

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### Author: ![Rmb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rmb/32/79135_2.png) [@Rmb](https://community.homey.app/u/Rmb)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2023, 9:28am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/881 "2023-10-25T09:28:49Z")

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You have to select the lamp/led strip first, like “Tuinspot 1” in my case. It looks like you didn’t add the led strip in the app “Hue without the bridge”, as there are no devices in your screen print.

 ![IMG_2866](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/5/f/5f99c350fff6ce9139d8cc3cd04062268534224f.jpeg)

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#### Post date: [October 25, 2023, 10:56am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/882 "2023-10-25T10:56:44Z")

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This just happened again, lost power and was using the experimental app, when power resorted there was the exclamation mark and a timeout error.

I downgraded to the non experimental app and it finds the sensor.

Seems like a bug in the experimental one.

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### Author: ![nickdekorte](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/nickdekorte/32/78954_2.png) [@nickdekorte](https://community.homey.app/u/nickdekorte)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2023, 6:55am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/883 "2023-10-27T06:55:26Z")

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Hello everyone,

I just got 3x Hue secure sensors, and I see they are not supported yet in this app or the official one.  
Does anyone know if and when they will get support?

Sorry if there is a special flow for these questions, new to Homey so still trying to find my way around.  
Cheers, Nick.

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### Author: ![Andre\_Kramer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/andre_kramer/32/79084_2.png) [@Andre\_Kramer](https://community.homey.app/u/Andre_Kramer)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2023, 12:34pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/884 "2023-11-18T12:34:49Z")

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Does anyone have the Hue Motion Sensor in version “SML003” in use? In the old version, the motion alarm could be reset. This doesn’t seem possible anymore, or does anyone have a solution?

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### Author: ![Rmb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rmb/32/79135_2.png) [@Rmb](https://community.homey.app/u/Rmb)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2023, 1:26pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/885 "2023-11-18T13:26:57Z")

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No.  
You can use a timer to switch it off faster, eg 10 seconds. If the reset time is 30 seconds, you have to wait 20 seconds before the motion sensor will react again. So the light will be off for at least 20 seconds.  
It it a problem the light stays on a little longer?  
By the SLM004 outdoor occupancy sensor. It has 10 seconds reset time.

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### Author: ![rvdeijk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rvdeijk/32/22542_2.png) [@rvdeijk](https://community.homey.app/u/rvdeijk)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2023, 4:57pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/886 "2023-11-22T16:57:14Z")

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@johan_bendz Could you add the E14 Hue white luster (LWU002): [https://www.philips-hue.com/nl-nl/p/hue-white-kogellamp---e14-slimme-lamp/8719514356696#overview](https://www.philips-hue.com/nl-nl/p/hue-white-kogellamp---e14-slimme-lamp/8719514356696#overview)

I think it’s another ID of the **Bulb E14 P45 White**.

Zigbee interview code:

```auto
  "ids": {
    "modelId": "LWU002",
    "manufacturerName": "Signify Netherlands B.V."
  },
  "endpoints": {
    "ieeeAddress": "00:17:88:01:0d:b7:8c:cf",
    "networkAddress": 11793,
    "modelId": "LWU002",
    "manufacturerName": "Signify Netherlands B.V.",
    "endpointDescriptors": [
      {
        "status": "SUCCESS",
        "nwkAddrOfInterest": 11793,
        "_reserved": 30,
        "endpointId": 11,
        "applicationProfileId": 260,
        "applicationDeviceId": 257,
        "applicationDeviceVersion": 0,
        "_reserved1": 1,
        "inputClusters": [
          0,
          3,
          4,
          5,
          6,
          8,
          4096,
          64515,
          64514,
          64516
        ],
        "outputClusters": [
          25
        ]
      },
      {
        "status": "SUCCESS",
        "nwkAddrOfInterest": 11793,
        "_reserved": 10,
        "endpointId": 242,
        "applicationProfileId": 41440,
        "applicationDeviceId": 97,
        "applicationDeviceVersion": 0,
        "_reserved1": 0,
        "inputClusters": [],
        "outputClusters": [
          33
        ]
      }
    ],
    "deviceType": "router",
    "receiveWhenIdle": true,
    "swBuildId": "1.104.2",
    "capabilities": {
      "alternatePANCoordinator": false,
      "deviceType": true,
      "powerSourceMains": true,
      "receiveWhenIdle": true,
      "security": false,
      "allocateAddress": true
    },
    "extendedEndpointDescriptors": {
      "11": {
        "clusters": {
          "basic": {
            "attributes": [
              {
                "id": 0,
                "name": "zclVersion",
                "value": 8
              },
              {
                "id": 1,
                "name": "appVersion",
                "value": 2
              },
              {
                "id": 2,
                "name": "stackVersion",
                "value": 1
              },
              {
                "id": 3,
                "name": "hwVersion",
                "value": 1
              },
              {
                "id": 4,
                "name": "manufacturerName",
                "value": "Signify Netherlands B.V."
              },
              {
                "id": 5,
                "name": "modelId",
                "value": "LWU002"
              },
              {
                "id": 6,
                "name": "dateCode",
                "value": "20230403"
              },
              {
                "id": 7,
                "name": "powerSource",
                "value": "mains"
              },
              {
                "id": 8,
                "name": "appProfileVersion",
                "value": 0
              },
              {
                "id": 9
              },
              {
                "id": 10
              },
              {
                "id": 11
              },
              {
                "id": 16384,
                "name": "swBuildId",
                "value": "1.104.2"
              },
              {
                "id": 65533,
                "name": "clusterRevision",
                "value": 3
              }
            ],
            "commandsGenerated": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND",
            "commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
          },
          "identify": {
            "attributes": [
              {
                "id": 0,
                "name": "identifyTime",
                "value": 0
              },
              {
                "id": 65533,
                "name": "clusterRevision",
                "value": 2
              }
            ]
          },
          "groups": {},
          "scenes": {},
          "onOff": {},
          "levelControl": {},
          "touchlink": {}
        },
        "bindings": {
          "ota": {}
        }
      },
      "242": {
        "clusters": {},
        "bindings": {}
      }
    }
  }

```

Github url: [Add new device ID of E14 White luster (LWU002) · Issue #530 · JohanBendz/com.philips.hue.zigbee · GitHub](https://github.com/JohanBendz/com.philips.hue.zigbee/issues/530#issue-2033101712)

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### Author: ![MarkL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/markl/32/4427_2.png) [@MarkL](https://community.homey.app/u/MarkL)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2023, 8:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/887 "2023-11-28T20:24:56Z")

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Hi peeps. I would love your help. I’ve got two Hue lamps which worked great with this app on the old Homey Pro (2016 version).

I upgraded to a new 2023 Homey Pro and needed to repair but I can get it to work. I’ve trier paring, resetting and reparing and I tried removing the device, but the new Homey simply won’t find the GU10 bulb.

I did the rest of the GU10 using the remote trick (where you keep a remote close and press the 1 an 0). The lamp does flash, but still it can’t be found. Anyone any ideas?

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### Author: ![Heula](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/heula/32/31852_2.png) [@Heula](https://community.homey.app/u/Heula)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2023, 7:35am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/888 "2023-12-02T07:35:36Z")

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I have 4 sensors from Philips, 2 for indoors and 2 for outdoors, and since Homey 2023 I have been experiencing continuous problems with these sensors. They receive a red triangle or have left the Zigbee network and must be reconnected.  
A restart often helps, but it is also sometimes the case that the sensor that did not work works again, but one of the other 3 has a problem with the red triangle in the tile.  
Because of these recurring issues, I have attached error cards to all sensors and the Hue is restarted without the Bridge app if an error has occurred.

But because it is becoming annoying that it is happening more and more often, I would like to report it here in the hope that the cause can be investigated and hopefully resolved.

 ![IMG_20231201_211417](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/b/2/b258db483989f8cb67cb28f0a7f9b5b87cceac96.jpeg)

My 4 sensors are:  
Inside  
SML003  
SML001  
Outside  
SML002 (2)

Report 44aa0baa-d49b-455c-aadb-402fc25e2ec3

Thanks.

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### Author: ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2023, 7:40am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/889 "2023-12-02T07:40:44Z")

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You should probably report this to Athom, the app isn’t responsible for devices leaving the network or timeouts.

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### Author: ![Heula](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/heula/32/31852_2.png) [@Heula](https://community.homey.app/u/Heula)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2023, 7:50am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/890 "2023-12-02T07:50:11Z")

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Already been in contact with Athom about this and some other issues I experience.  
I forgot to mention that in my post.

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### Author: ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [December 5, 2023, 9:25am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/891 "2023-12-05T09:25:42Z")

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Hi all.  
Prepping to release a new Live version, this is the latest test version: [Philips Hue, without the bridge App för Homey | Homey](https://homey.app/sv-se/app/com.philips.hue.zigbee/Philips-Hue,-without-the-bridge/test/)

From the logs I receive and from what you all write, I see there are issues with devices dropping out of the network, devices losing connection, SQL errors, full disks, etc. Sadly, I have limited ability to fix these issues as they are related to Homey and not to the app. I will try to fix the problems with devices losing reporting/connection, but I don’t have much to go on.

I’ll try to squeeze in any device additions that are quick to add into the upcoming Live update, and will then start updating a new test version with new devices and features.

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### Author: ![rvdeijk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rvdeijk/32/22542_2.png) [@rvdeijk](https://community.homey.app/u/rvdeijk)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2023, 6:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/892 "2023-12-08T18:15:39Z")

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> [@johan\_bendz](#):
>
> I’ll try to squeeze in any device additions that are quick to add into the upcoming Live update

@johan_bendz  
This is a quick one 😉[[APP][Pro] Philips Hue Zigbee (Without the bridge) - #885 by Rmb](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/885)

> <https://github.com/JohanBendz/com.philips.hue.zigbee/issues/530#issue-2033101712>
>
> @JohanBendz 
> Homey forum: https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zig…bee-without-the-bridge/29734/885?u=rvdeijk
> 
> Could you add the E14 Hue white luster (LWU002): Philips website: https://www.philips-hue.com/nl-nl/p/hue-white-kogellamp---e14-slimme-lamp/8719514356696#overview
> 
> I think it’s another ID of the Bulb E14 P45 White.
> 
> Zigbee interview code:
> \`"ids": {
> "modelId": "LWU002",
> "manufacturerName": "Signify Netherlands B.V."
> },
> "endpoints": {
> "ieeeAddress": "00:17:88:01:0d:b7:8c:cf",
> "networkAddress": 11793,
> "modelId": "LWU002",
> "manufacturerName": "Signify Netherlands B.V.",
> "endpointDescriptors": \[
> {
> "status": "SUCCESS",
> "nwkAddrOfInterest": 11793,
> "\_reserved": 30,
> "endpointId": 11,
> "applicationProfileId": 260,
> "applicationDeviceId": 257,
> "applicationDeviceVersion": 0,
> "\_reserved1": 1,
> "inputClusters": \[
> 0,
> 3,
> 4,
> 5,
> 6,
> 8,
> 4096,
> 64515,
> 64514,
> 64516
> \],
> "outputClusters": \[
> 25
> \]
> },
> {
> "status": "SUCCESS",
> "nwkAddrOfInterest": 11793,
> "\_reserved": 10,
> "endpointId": 242,
> "applicationProfileId": 41440,
> "applicationDeviceId": 97,
> "applicationDeviceVersion": 0,
> "\_reserved1": 0,
> "inputClusters": \[\],
> "outputClusters": \[
> 33
> \]
> }
> \],
> "deviceType": "router",
> "receiveWhenIdle": true,
> "swBuildId": "1.104.2",
> "capabilities": {
> "alternatePANCoordinator": false,
> "deviceType": true,
> "powerSourceMains": true,
> "receiveWhenIdle": true,
> "security": false,
> "allocateAddress": true
> },
> "extendedEndpointDescriptors": {
> "11": {
> "clusters": {
> "basic": {
> "attributes": \[
> {
> "id": 0,
> "name": "zclVersion",
> "value": 8
> },
> {
> "id": 1,
> "name": "appVersion",
> "value": 2
> },
> {
> "id": 2,
> "name": "stackVersion",
> "value": 1
> },
> {
> "id": 3,
> "name": "hwVersion",
> "value": 1
> },
> {
> "id": 4,
> "name": "manufacturerName",
> "value": "Signify Netherlands B.V."
> },
> {
> "id": 5,
> "name": "modelId",
> "value": "LWU002"
> },
> {
> "id": 6,
> "name": "dateCode",
> "value": "20230403"
> },
> {
> "id": 7,
> "name": "powerSource",
> "value": "mains"
> },
> {
> "id": 8,
> "name": "appProfileVersion",
> "value": 0
> },
> {
> "id": 9
> },
> {
> "id": 10
> },
> {
> "id": 11
> },
> {
> "id": 16384,
> "name": "swBuildId",
> "value": "1.104.2"
> },
> {
> "id": 65533,
> "name": "clusterRevision",
> "value": 3
> }
> \],
> "commandsGenerated": "UNSUP\_GENERAL\_COMMAND",
> "commandsReceived": "UNSUP\_GENERAL\_COMMAND"
> },
> "identify": {
> "attributes": \[
> {
> "id": 0,
> "name": "identifyTime",
> "value": 0
> },
> {
> "id": 65533,
> "name": "clusterRevision",
> "value": 2
> }
> \]
> },
> "groups": {},
> "scenes": {},
> "onOff": {},
> "levelControl": {},
> "touchlink": {}
> },
> "bindings": {
> "ota": {}
> }
> },
> "242": {
> "clusters": {},
> "bindings": {}
> }
> }
> }\`

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### Author: ![Jeroen\_W](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jeroen_w/32/9803_2.png) [@Jeroen\_W](https://community.homey.app/u/Jeroen_W)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2023, 8:07pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/893 "2023-12-09T20:07:34Z")

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> [@johan\_bendz](#):
>
> A new card for the lights is on its way, making the light, and ambiance if supported by the lamp, follow the sun based on Homey’s geolocation. 🙂  
> ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/3/7355cfb8c0eacbad3b3d62c5eabbc5c02af07069.png)

Is this feature then also supported? This would be a very nice addition to it.

ps. The Hue Switch Module is working perfect now 😃

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### Author: ![aunmo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/aunmo/32/78910_2.png) [@aunmo](https://community.homey.app/u/aunmo)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2023, 1:17am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/894 "2023-12-12T01:17:28Z")

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Will using this app instead of the bridge solve the delays I’m getting? Pushing the ‘hue remote on button’ with a turn on light flow connected to it, gives me 1-2 seconds delay before the light is turned on.

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### Author: ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2023, 5:55am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/895 "2023-12-12T05:55:04Z")

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> [@aunmo](#):
>
> Pushing the ‘hue remote on button’ with a turn on light flow connected to it, gives me 1-2 seconds delay before the light is turned on.

It typically will, yes, but it depends on how your Homey’s Zigbee network looks.

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### Author: ![aunmo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/aunmo/32/78910_2.png) [@aunmo](https://community.homey.app/u/aunmo)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2023, 8:14am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/896 "2023-12-12T08:14:42Z")

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Could you explain that? How do I know how it looks, and what could be done to make it most effective?

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#### Post date: [December 12, 2023, 12:45pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/897 "2023-12-12T12:45:03Z")

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Hello.  
Does anyone know how i can connect my hue motion sensors to the homey pro without the bridge?  
I have one Philips hue motion sensor v.1, that works perfectly without the bridge.  
My 4 new v.2 sensors won’t connect.  
Any ideas on how to get these connected to my homey?  
I use severalSonoff sensors, Namron swithces, Hue bulbs/strips, Fibaro dimmers, and some Nexa dimmers.  
All words fine, except for the Hue v.2 sensors

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### Author: ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2023, 1:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/898 "2023-12-12T13:16:35Z")

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If the Hue remote is the only Zigbee device you have (in Homey’s Zigbee network), then it may work, or may not, depending on how far from Homey you intend to use the device. If you have plenty of other (router!) devices in Homey’s Zigbee network, then it will probably work fine _as long as the device is supported_.

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### Author: ![Rmb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rmb/32/79135_2.png) [@Rmb](https://community.homey.app/u/Rmb)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2023, 2:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/899 "2023-12-12T14:06:21Z")

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