# \[APP\]\[Pro\] Philips Hue Zigbee (Without the bridge)

**URL:** https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734
**Category:** Apps
**Tags:** app, zigbee
**Created:** [May 12, 2020, 11:53am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734 "2020-05-12T11:53:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![BoerLowie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/boerlowie/32/68548_2.png) [@BoerLowie](https://community.homey.app/u/BoerLowie)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2023, 6:34pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/840 "2023-09-25T18:34:46Z")

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I’m having the same issue, is there a version out where this is resolved? (running 2.0.46).

Thanks!

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### Author: ![Dennis\_H74](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dennis_h74/32/11177_2.png) [@Dennis\_H74](https://community.homey.app/u/Dennis_H74)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2023, 7:18pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/841 "2023-09-25T19:18:56Z")

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@johan_bendz

Hi johan

Today i received an hue outdoor sensor i want to use for LUX value.

No matter what outdoor sensor i select i get :

“Could not find app, device added as unknown zigbee device”

The model number on the back is 9290030674

Any clue on how to solve ?  
Hope you can help me

 ![IMG_6418](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/f/f/ff0d17ab4e20564f314d55adc54e410a8415d2de.jpeg)

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### Author: ![rvdeijk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rvdeijk/32/22542_2.png) [@rvdeijk](https://community.homey.app/u/rvdeijk)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2023, 6:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/842 "2023-09-26T18:44:36Z")

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> [@rvdeijk](#):
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> Philips Hue A60 light bulbs are added as a generic zigbee device. Cause the device ID changed: LWA021

@johan_bendz Could you add this ID to the already existing light bulb A60?

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### Author: ![rvdeijk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rvdeijk/32/22542_2.png) [@rvdeijk](https://community.homey.app/u/rvdeijk)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/843 "2023-09-26T18:48:09Z")

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Try the test version of the app: [Philips Hue, without the bridge App voor Homey | Homey](https://homey.app/nl-nl/app/com.philips.hue.zigbee/Philips-Hue,-without-the-bridge/test) that should work according to an old Dutch thread:  
[Beweging sensor Philips Hue outdoor - #9 by Rmb](https://community.homey.app/t/beweging-sensor-philips-hue-outdoor/71288/9)

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### Author: ![Dennis\_H74](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dennis_h74/32/11177_2.png) [@Dennis\_H74](https://community.homey.app/u/Dennis_H74)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2023, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/844 "2023-09-26T19:24:27Z")

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To late …. Bought me ( another 😔 ) hub … the Hue hub this time

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### Author: ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2023, 7:52pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/845 "2023-09-28T19:52:39Z")

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Hi there.  
The old driver used a timer to handle the resetting of an alarm. This is actually bad practice.

When I rewrote the code to use the reported reset sent from the device, it reports start of movement and end of movement, the ability to change the reset was lost. I see there are quite some requests to have the manual timed reset for this device still… I’ll consider adding this ability.

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### Author: ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2023, 7:59pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/846 "2023-09-28T19:59:38Z")

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> [@Dennis\_H74](#):
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> 9290030674

Hi @Dennis_H74, looks like a new version of the device. I’ll add it to the app.  
Just to make sure nothing has changed in the unit, please interview the unit and post the data here.

[https://tools.developer.homey.app/tools/zigbee](https://tools.developer.homey.app/tools/zigbee)  
Interview button to the right of your device.

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### Author: ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2023, 8:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/847 "2023-09-28T20:02:55Z")

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> [@Lipas](#):
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> Did You manage to make tap switch 2 wheel working on your HP23?

Hi @Lipas.  
Not working for you? Do you use the test version of the app?  
I have the device working with all buttons and wheel here.

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### Author: ![Lipas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/lipas/32/72447_2.png) [@Lipas](https://community.homey.app/u/Lipas)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2023, 8:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/848 "2023-09-28T20:11:32Z")

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I have the test app installed and I have only 4 buttons available.

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### Author: ![Dennis\_H74](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dennis_h74/32/11177_2.png) [@Dennis\_H74](https://community.homey.app/u/Dennis_H74)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2023, 8:39pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/849 "2023-09-28T20:39:07Z")

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He johan

You asked people a year ago to do the same on github for this model … so its not new.I already bought the bridge unfortunately.

How do i to “interview “ ?

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### Author: ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2023, 9:23pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/850 "2023-09-28T21:23:40Z")

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If so it should be solved since long:  
`https://github.com/JohanBendz/com.philips.hue.zigbee/issues/465`  
`https://github.com/JohanBendz/com.philips.hue.zigbee/issues/485`

Did you install the test version of the app?  
`https://homey.app/a/com.philips.hue.zigbee/test/`

Interviews are made by pressing the three dots to the right of you device and then pressing the interview text here:  
[https://tools.developer.homey.app/tools/zigbee](https://tools.developer.homey.app/tools/zigbee)

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### Author: ![gy\_1977](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gy_1977/32/16573_2.png) [@gy\_1977](https://community.homey.app/u/gy_1977)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2023, 11:33am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/851 "2023-10-09T11:33:49Z")

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Hi

I have the outdoor Hue Sensor which I want to use to measure lux levels for switching lights on and off.

It seems that the device reports the lux level to homey every 5 minutes. I’ve changed the max and min settings in the app to make it report more often but it seems altering these values make no difference.

Homey insights also show it reports every 5 mins.

I have a homey pro 2019 and I’m using the 2.0.46 version of the app.

Hoping someone can help or advise. Thanks

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#### Post date: [October 9, 2023, 9:52pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/852 "2023-10-09T21:52:47Z")

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Meant to say is the SML004 I have

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### Author: ![Rmb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rmb/32/79135_2.png) [@Rmb](https://community.homey.app/u/Rmb)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2023, 10:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/853 "2023-10-09T22:36:16Z")

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Maybe it will only send a new message when the lux has changed, or maybe a low battery?  
But what I don’t understand why you need a faster response? The sun is not rising that fast 😉  
Is it because you want to use it as a trigger? Use the motion sensor as a trigger? Or sun down plus 10 minutes?

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### Author: ![gy\_1977](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gy_1977/32/16573_2.png) [@gy\_1977](https://community.homey.app/u/gy_1977)
#### Post date: [October 10, 2023, 6:44am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/854 "2023-10-10T06:44:44Z")

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Hi yeah I use the lux level as a trigger

Below 200 lights on

Above 50 lights off

I use some other lux levels for indoor lights etc as well. Reporting every 5 mins is not the end of the world but the settings allow you to change this to report every 60s.

When motion is triggered it always takes a new lux reading.

As the setting allows the reporting interval to be set to report more often, this is what id like to do. The issue is that when I alter the values it makes no difference to the frequency of the reporting.

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### Author: ![Rmb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rmb/32/79135_2.png) [@Rmb](https://community.homey.app/u/Rmb)
#### Post date: [October 10, 2023, 1:28pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/855 "2023-10-10T13:28:51Z")

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Maybe you make two flows. One triggered by Lux, one by motion AND checking lux.  
Faster reporting also drains your battery faster.

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### Author: ![gy\_1977](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gy_1977/32/16573_2.png) [@gy\_1977](https://community.homey.app/u/gy_1977)
#### Post date: [October 10, 2023, 1:43pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/856 "2023-10-10T13:43:57Z")

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Hi I’m using a battery eliminator so in essence it’s hardwired so frequent reporting is fine for that purpose.

It’s also in an area that doesn’t get much motion, what do you mean by create two flows, could you expand further please.

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### Author: ![Rmb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rmb/32/79135_2.png) [@Rmb](https://community.homey.app/u/Rmb)
#### Post date: [October 10, 2023, 2:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/857 "2023-10-10T14:47:46Z")

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One flow that switches on the light when it gets dark, and one flow that switches on the light when motion is detected and it is dark. If the light is not yet switched on by the first flow, you still will not walk in the dark, as it will be switched on by the second.  
But maybe you can change the timers by pairing it to a hue bridge first. Hoping the timers will not reset when you pair it to Homey.

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#### Post date: [October 10, 2023, 3:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/858 "2023-10-10T15:25:27Z")

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Thanks but i dont need to motion part of it at all, I’m using it for lux only.

If the setting could be paired using the bridge then id do that if there wouldn’t be reset when pairing it with the homey.

Maybe someone can advise

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#### Post date: [October 11, 2023, 12:10pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/859 "2023-10-11T12:10:44Z")

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Greetings @johan_bendz !

Thanks for publishing and supporting this app. It has made all my Hue devices much more responsive, since the homey / hub communication is removed!

I have a question. In the original Hue app it was possible to adjust the sensitivity of a motion detector. I am not finding this option in the homey app.

My issue is currently that I have an outdoor motion detector that is triggered by a leaf moving in the wind, so I’d like to turn down the sensitivity. It worked well through the Hue hub, but is overly sensitive now.

**Is this achieved by using the «presence detector» instead of «motion detector» device, or will the app need re-programming?**

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