# \[APP\]\[Pro\] Philips Hue Zigbee (Without the bridge)

**URL:** https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734
**Category:** Apps
**Tags:** app, zigbee
**Created:** [May 12, 2020, 11:53am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734 "2020-05-12T11:53:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![David\_Ogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/david_ogo/32/30667_2.png) [@David\_Ogo](https://community.homey.app/u/David_Ogo)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2023, 5:27am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/800 "2023-06-29T05:27:17Z")

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thank you, I was looking to make it simpler, only with a luminance value, possible?

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### Author: ![RainerMZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@RainerMZ](https://community.homey.app/u/RainerMZ)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2023, 7:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/801 "2023-06-30T19:25:52Z")

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Dev-version works with plug. Thanks for your support

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### Author: ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2023, 1:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/802 "2023-07-03T13:51:48Z")

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> [@David\_Ogo](#):
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> I was looking to make it simpler, only with a luminance value, possible?

Sure, that works but if the lum shifts between a value above/below the threshold your lights will trigger multiple times… perhaps not an issue.

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### Author: ![David\_Ogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/david_ogo/32/30667_2.png) [@David\_Ogo](https://community.homey.app/u/David_Ogo)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2023, 4:10pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/803 "2023-07-03T16:10:50Z")

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in fact, I want the detector to activate the light when it is dark and each time it detects a presence, thanks

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### Author: ![Glenn\_Dijkstra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/glenn_dijkstra/32/17251_2.png) [@Glenn\_Dijkstra](https://community.homey.app/u/Glenn_Dijkstra)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2023, 5:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/804 "2023-07-03T17:16:02Z")

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Good to read this, and thanks for your great apps Johan. Just wondering. When we use the Philips hue with bridge app from athom, only the buttons work and the dimmer button doesn’t do anything. Do you expect that to work once you add it? It d be great to have that to work.

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### Author: ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/805 "2023-07-04T18:29:46Z")

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New test version out.  
I’m about to push the test version to Live. So if anyone notice any issues with the test version I’d love to hear from you asap.

// Johan

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### Author: ![Caseda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caseda/32/138695_2.png) [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2023, 7:01pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/806 "2023-07-04T19:01:16Z")

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I know you asked for if it doesn’t work, but still wanted to say it all works fine here on 2019 and 2023 homey’s.  
Does it include the explanation for the double and triple spots that all lights need to be included individually?

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### Author: ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2023, 7:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/807 "2023-07-04T19:27:58Z")

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Good to hear! 😃  
Hmm, no it does not… good one… I’ll add it NOW! 😃

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### Author: ![Yestond](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/yestond/32/9807_2.png) [@Yestond](https://community.homey.app/u/Yestond)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2023, 10:46am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/808 "2023-07-05T10:46:18Z")

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> [@johan\_bendz](#):
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> I’m about to push the test version to Live. So if anyone notice any issues with the test version I’d love to hear from you asap.

I’m having issues with SML004 being unavailable in the app. However sensor data is still updated as I can see values changing in the insights. It’s only the motion part that’s not triggering.

When I re-add the device it works for about a week or so.  
Dunno if this is a general problem or only a problem for me 🙂

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/4/e/4eda1499c7608d2fbb614fbf7b0220260eb53c3e.png)

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### Author: ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2023, 11:46am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/809 "2023-07-05T11:46:21Z")

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> [@Yestond](#):
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> I’m having issues with SML004 being unavailable in the app. However sensor data is still updated as I can see values changing in the insights. It’s only the motion part that’s not triggering.
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> When I re-add the device it works for about a week or so.  
> Dunno if this is a general problem or only a problem for me 🙂

Thanks for the info, can you please send a diagnostic report when this happens, add a comment so I know it’s your report.

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### Author: ![Yestond](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/yestond/32/9807_2.png) [@Yestond](https://community.homey.app/u/Yestond)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2023, 1:45pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/810 "2023-07-05T13:45:31Z")

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Will do 😉

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### Author: ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [July 9, 2023, 11:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/811 "2023-07-09T23:14:25Z")

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New test version out, made a few fixes to mitigate potential memory leaks, added more info to pairing instructions and added support for the Hue Tap Dial Switch.

// Johan

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### Author: ![Caseda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caseda/32/138695_2.png) [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2023, 5:30pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/812 "2023-07-10T17:30:04Z")

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I noticed that the “blink” and “warn mode” flow cards are in a different spot for Homey Pro (early 2019) and Homey Pro (early 2023), app v2.0.46.  
for Homey Pro (early 2019) it is under the device itself;  
for Homey Pro (early 2023) it is under the app (with additional device selector);

Was this already the case before? didn’t use these custom flow cards yet for HP2023, so it won’t affect me much, but hope it won’t kill the already existing cards for other people if it was under the device itself before.  
Or was it already in my PR, but didn’t notice it being weird for HP2023.

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### Author: ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2023, 8:23pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/813 "2023-07-10T20:23:22Z")

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> [@Caseda](#):
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> Was this already the case before? didn’t use these custom flow cards yet for HP2023, so it won’t affect me much, but hope it won’t kill the already existing cards for other people if it was under the device itself before.  
> Or was it already in my PR, but didn’t notice it being weird for HP2023.

Hi there @Caseda, this is actually something that differs between the new Pro and older models. It’s been like this since I introduced the alert and blink functionality (not your PR doing this). I have not tested to migrate an old homey with flows using these cards to the new Pro so I really have no idea if this works or nor.. no complains so far.. 🙂

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### Author: ![rvdeijk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rvdeijk/32/22542_2.png) [@rvdeijk](https://community.homey.app/u/rvdeijk)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2023, 1:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/814 "2023-07-16T13:37:50Z")

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@johan_bendz I noticed that my recently new bought Philips Hue A60 light bulbs are added as a generic zigbee device. Cause the device ID changed: LWA021  
I also have older A60 light bulbs and they have another device ID: LWA004

Any chance you can add the LWA021 to the A60 light bulb device, so it would be seen by your app?  
I also made a [Github issue](https://github.com/JohanBendz/com.philips.hue.zigbee/issues/483)

 ![IMG_20230716_152855](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/2/8/285689553c823cb45afe87ef3f7dfd491f0475ec.jpeg)

It could be related to this old post, although that one is LWA011:

> [@Heula](#):
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> and a hue bulb E27 A60 white 806 lumens.  
> The hue bulb will only be recognized as an unknown zigbee device.

When I interview the light bulb, the light goes off/on for a while, then it remains very bright and the light is unreachable. Have to reset it, to get it to work again.

Edit: interview code added

```auto

  "ids": {
    "modelId": "LWA021",
    "manufacturerName": "Signify Netherlands B.V."
  },
  "endpoints": {
    "ieeeAddress": "00:17:88:01:0d:31:2b:1b",
    "networkAddress": 36332,
    "modelId": "LWA021",
    "manufacturerName": "Signify Netherlands B.V.",
    "swBuildId": "1.104.2",
    "capabilities": {
      "type": "Buffer",
      "data": [
        142
      ]
    },
    "endpointDescriptors": [
      {
        "status": "SUCCESS",
        "nwkAddrOfInterest": 36332,
        "_reserved": 30,
        "endpointId": 11,
        "applicationProfileId": 260,
        "applicationDeviceId": 257,
        "applicationDeviceVersion": 0,
        "_reserved1": 1,
        "inputClusters": [
          0,
          3,
          4,
          5,
          6,
          8,
          4096,
          64515,
          64514,
          64516
        ],
        "outputClusters": [
          25
        ]
      },
      {
        "status": "SUCCESS",
        "nwkAddrOfInterest": 36332,
        "_reserved": 10,
        "endpointId": 242,
        "applicationProfileId": 41440,
        "applicationDeviceId": 97,
        "applicationDeviceVersion": 0,
        "_reserved1": 0,
        "inputClusters": [],
        "outputClusters": [
          33
        ]
      }
    ],
    "touchlinkGroupIds": [],
    "extendedEndpointDescriptors": {
      "11": {
        "clusters": {
          "basic": {
            "attributes": [
              {
                "id": 0,
                "name": "zclVersion",
                "value": 8
              },
              {
                "id": 1,
                "name": "appVersion",
                "value": 2
              },
              {
                "id": 2,
                "name": "stackVersion",
                "value": 1
              },
              {
                "id": 3,
                "name": "hwVersion",
                "value": 1
              },
              {
                "id": 4,
                "name": "manufacturerName",
                "value": "Signify Netherlands B.V."
              },
              {
                "id": 5,
                "name": "modelId",
                "value": "LWA021"
              },
              {
                "id": 6,
                "name": "dateCode",
                "value": "20230403"
              },
              {
                "id": 7,
                "name": "powerSource",
                "value": "mains"
              },
              {
                "id": 8,
                "name": "appProfileVersion",
                "value": 0
              },
              {
                "id": 9
              },
              {
                "id": 10
              },
              {
                "id": 11
              },
              {
                "id": 16384,
                "name": "swBuildId",
                "value": "1.104.2"
              },
              {
                "id": 65533,
                "name": "clusterRevision",
                "value": 3
              }
            ],
            "commandsGenerated": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND",
            "commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
          },
          "identify": {
            "attributes": [
              {
                "id": 0,
                "name": "identifyTime",
                "value": 0
              },
              {
                "id": 65533,
                "name": "clusterRevision",
                "value": 2
              }
            ]
          },
          "groups": {},
          "scenes": {},
          "onOff": {},
          "levelControl": {},
          "touchlink": {}
        },
        "bindings": {
          "ota": {}
        }
      },
      "242": {
        "clusters": {},
        "bindings": {}
      }
    }
  }

```

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### Author: ![Yestond](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/yestond/32/9807_2.png) [@Yestond](https://community.homey.app/u/Yestond)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2023, 9:17am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/815 "2023-07-23T09:17:02Z")

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hi @johan_bendz here’s the diagnostic report of the Hue Outdoor Motion Sensor (SML004) becoming unavailable in the app:  
939c5e84-c820-4c6d-a820-73eb1d4866c2  
Could you have a look at that?

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### Author: ![Evert\_Dieperink](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/evert_dieperink/32/79414_2.png) [@Evert\_Dieperink](https://community.homey.app/u/Evert_Dieperink)
#### Post date: [July 25, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/816 "2023-07-25T18:48:37Z")

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I have to motion sensors… the SML002 and the SML004. The motion sensor with id SML004 is constantly triggering motion even if I set the sensitivity to Low. Any one an idea how to prevent this?

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### Author: ![Anthony\_Pranger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/anthony_pranger/32/68976_2.png) [@Anthony\_Pranger](https://community.homey.app/u/Anthony_Pranger)
#### Post date: [July 30, 2023, 6:54am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/817 "2023-07-30T06:54:37Z")

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Hi Johan,

Thanks for the update.

The update for de tap dial switch includes the dial button?

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### Author: ![Guido\_Groeneweg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/guido_groeneweg/32/81606_2.png) [@Guido\_Groeneweg](https://community.homey.app/u/Guido_Groeneweg)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2023, 12:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/818 "2023-08-01T12:49:35Z")

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Today I bought the Hue motion sensor SML003 because of it’s lumen sensor, but it’s found as a “onbekend zigbee apparaat”.

Tried several times to restart the Homey '23, restarted the app, but no results.

Diagnostisch rapport: 2cc2b42b-c8d5-43d6-b605-31d58b8919af

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/3/f/3f3f3b3895ac0d5f16ac50ee6e555c7aaeee7635.png)

(edit: translated a bit from Dutch to English)

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### Author: ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2023, 1:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/819 "2023-08-01T13:27:25Z")

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> [@Guido\_Groeneweg](#):
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> Diverse malen geprobeerd, Homey '23 herstart, app herstart, helaas geen resultaat.

English please.

Are you running the [test version of the app](https://homey.app/a/com.philips.hue.zigbee/test/)?

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