# \[APP\]\[Pro\] Philips Hue Zigbee (Without the bridge)

**URL:** https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734
**Category:** Apps
**Tags:** app, zigbee
**Created:** [May 12, 2020, 11:53am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734 "2020-05-12T11:53:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 34

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### Author: ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/698 "2022-10-09T17:04:29Z")

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Hi there.  
I am currently not able to add this functionality.

I suggest you add a logic check for a variable of your choice instead.

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### Author: ![Ewen\_Le\_guennec](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ewen_le_guennec/32/25503_2.png) [@Ewen\_Le\_guennec](https://community.homey.app/u/Ewen_Le_guennec)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2022, 5:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/699 "2022-10-09T17:14:38Z")

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Thanks for your quick reply and for the tip😉Have a great day

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### Author: ![phil01](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/phil01/32/14658_2.png) [@phil01](https://community.homey.app/u/phil01)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2022, 8:53am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/702 "2022-11-02T08:53:58Z")

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> [@phil01](#):
>
> Bonjour,
> 
> J’ai récemment acheté une ampoule Philips Hue white and color Ambience pour remplacer une ampoule Yeelight qui ne se connecte plus au réseau.  
> J’ai téléchargé l’appli Philips Hue sans pont (car je n’ai pas le pont) sur ma Homey pro mais je ne vois pas la lampe. J’ai acheté une télécommande pour effectuer la réinitialisation et toujours rien. Je ne trouve pas non plus en Zigbee sans nom.
> 
> Des idées ou est ce que je dois tout ramener au magasin ?

Sorry,

I recently bought a Philips Hue white and color Ambience bulb to replace a Yeelight bulb that no longer connects to the mains.  
I downloaded the Philips Hue app without the bridge (because I don’t have the bridge) on my Homey pro but I can’t see the lamp. I bought a remote to do the reset and still nothing. I can’t find Zigbee without a name either.

Any ideas or do I have to take everything back to the store?

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### Author: ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2022, 11:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/703 "2022-11-02T23:05:18Z")

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Hi @phil01, if you have a remote switch (the rectangle shaped with four buttons) it should put your lightbulb into pairing mode when you press and hold the on and off buttons simultaneously VERY close to the bulb until it is done blinking and stuff…

If you have problems adding the bulb as a Hue Without the Bridge device, please disable the app and try adding the bulb as generic Zigbee. If this works please send me the Zigbee info for the device. If it still does not pair the problem is not within the app but rather a generic pairing issue that normally can be solved.

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### Author: ![phil01](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/phil01/32/14658_2.png) [@phil01](https://community.homey.app/u/phil01)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2022, 12:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/704 "2022-11-03T12:51:01Z")

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Thanks Johan\_bendz for your information.  
I have already tried to reset via dimmer switch 2 but nothing on the Philips Hue witout bridge app and nothing either with Homey Zigbee.  
Tonight I will try by uninstalling Philips Hue.

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### Author: ![phil01](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/phil01/32/14658_2.png) [@phil01](https://community.homey.app/u/phil01)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2022, 7:35am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/705 "2022-11-04T07:35:11Z")

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Hello,

I tried by uninstalling philips Hue without bridge, and nothing in Zigbee either, neither the bulb nor the remote control is found.  
I see the bulb in Bluetooth on the phone, the remote works well with the bulb.  
I’m a little lost, I thought it worked better than Yeelight but obviously not really.

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### Author: ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2022, 2:20pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/706 "2022-11-04T14:20:49Z")

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Sounds like you have a generic Zigbee issue.  
Please have a look here: [https://support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/360019240259-Resolving-Zigbee-pairing-issues](https://support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/360019240259-Resolving-Zigbee-pairing-issues)

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### Author: ![phil01](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/phil01/32/14658_2.png) [@phil01](https://community.homey.app/u/phil01)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2022, 1:28pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/707 "2022-11-06T13:28:34Z")

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I uninstalled 3 zigbee devices on batteries but still no associations neither Zigbee nor on the philips without bridge app.

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### Author: ![Eric\_J](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/eric_j/32/59487_2.png) [@Eric\_J](https://community.homey.app/u/Eric_J)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2022, 8:51am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/708 "2022-11-10T08:51:21Z")

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Request for adding Tap Dial

```auto

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    "manufacturerName": "Signify Netherlands B.V."
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          3,
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          6,
          8,
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    ],
    "endpoints": {
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                "id": 0,
                "name": "zclVersion",
                "value": 8
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              {
                "id": 1,
                "name": "appVersion",
                "value": 2
              },
              {
                "id": 2,
                "name": "stackVersion",
                "value": 1
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              {
                "id": 3,
                "name": "hwVersion",
                "value": 1
              },
              {
                "id": 4,
                "name": "manufacturerName",
                "value": "Signify Netherlands B.V."
              },
              {
                "id": 5,
                "name": "modelId",
                "value": "RDM002"
              },
              {
                "id": 6,
                "name": "dateCode",
                "value": "20220316"
              },
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                "id": 7,
                "name": "powerSource",
                "value": "battery"
              },
              {
                "id": 8,
                "name": "appProfileVersion",
                "value": 0
              },
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                "id": 10
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                "name": "swBuildId",
                "value": "2.59.19"
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                "name": "clusterRevision",
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                "name": "stackVersion",
                "value": 1
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              {
                "id": 3,
                "name": "hwVersion",
                "value": 1
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              {
                "id": 4,
                "name": "manufacturerName",
                "value": "Signify Netherlands B.V."
              },
              {
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              {
                "id": 16384,
                "name": "swBuildId",
                "value": "2.59.19"
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              {
                "id": 65533,
                "name": "clusterRevision",
                "value": 3
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          "identify": {},
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        }
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    }
  }

```

Device [Hue Tap -kytkin valkoinen – Älykäs kaukosäädin | Philips Hue FI](https://www.philips-hue.com/fi-fi/p/hue-tap-dial-switch--kytkin/8719514440999) (sorry for Finnish version, I guess you anyway get the details needed.

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### Author: ![markusv](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/markusv/32/34227_2.png) [@markusv](https://community.homey.app/u/markusv)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2022, 7:30am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/709 "2022-11-14T07:30:19Z")

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Hi, is the three spot Philips Hue Centris panel supported by this app? I can not see it in the supported devices. However all the other centris lights are? Does anyone know?

> **[Philips Hue Centris 3-Spot Ceiling Light (White) 5060931P7 Zigbee compatibility](https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Philips_5060931P7.html)**
>
> Zigbee ID: 5060931P7\_01 | 5060931P7\_02 | 5060931P7\_03 | 5060931P7\_04 - Philips 5060931P7 compatibility with third party gateways

> **[Philips Hue WCA Centris Spotlys 3x5.7W Sort | Elektroimportøren AS](https://www.elektroimportoren.no/?Article=60288&Referer=prisjakt&utm_campaign=prisjakt&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=Prisjakt)**
>
> Få både funksjonell belysning og stemningsbelysning i én og samme lysarmatur. Den svarte Centris har en fast taklampe og tre spotlights som kan justeres individuelt. Still inn hvert lys i armaturen til en av de flere millioner fargene for å få et...

Regards Markus

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### Author: ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2022, 8:59am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/710 "2022-11-14T08:59:29Z")

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If you search this topic for the mentioned Zigbee ID 5060931P7 you will find out, that this device isn’t supported by the app yet.

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### Author: ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2022, 8:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/711 "2022-11-27T20:08:24Z")

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> [@Eric\_J](#):
>
> Request for adding Tap Dial

Thanks for the request, it’s on my “todo list”.

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### Author: ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2022, 8:09pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/712 "2022-11-27T20:09:53Z")

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> [@markusv](#):
>
> Philips Hue Centris

I will add support for your devices in the next update of the app.

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### Author: ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2022, 10:59pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/713 "2022-11-27T22:59:20Z")

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Hi all.  
New test version out, please verify functionality if you are able. I will release it to Live only after enough testing.

I’m especially interested in if anyone have issues with the plugs and/or sensors.

Zigbee should be more rapid and less likely to cause trouble with this release, do tell if you think it has improved.

> **[Philips Hue, without the bridge](https://homey.app/en-us/app/com.philips.hue.zigbee/Philips-Hue,-without-the-bridge/)**
>
> Smart light — your way.

// Johan

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### Author: ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2022, 10:26am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/714 "2022-11-28T10:26:19Z")

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Hi @johan_bendz,  
I have just one Smart Plug (LOM001) and one Outdoor Sensor (SML002). The other Philips Hue devices are lamps and switches.  
I installed the test version 2.0.42 this morning and after that everything worked as expected.  
But due to maintenance, I had to disconnect the Smart Plug and 2 LightStrips Plus from the power.  
After I plugged the devices back in and waited a bit, various ZigBee devices stopped working (I tested 7 lamps and the SmartPlug out of a total of 36 ZigBee devices). I also tried to interview some ZigBee devices, without success.  
So I did a PTP and now everything works again as expected, also the SmartPlug and the Outdoor Sensor.

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### Author: ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2022, 6:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/715 "2022-11-28T18:51:50Z")

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Thanks! Please send a crash report from the app if it happens again.

// Johan

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### Author: ![rikadoo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rikadoo/32/9522_2.png) [@rikadoo](https://community.homey.app/u/rikadoo)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2022, 4:17pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/716 "2022-11-29T16:17:08Z")

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Unfortunately the [Hue Being Ceiling](https://www.philips-hue.com/nl-nl/p/hue-white-ambiance-being-plafondlamp/8719514341111) is not working, i had good hopes. Is it possible to add this next update? It is the same as the LTC001, only the product number is now 929003055201

`

```auto
Materialnumber is 929003055201

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```

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### Author: ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/717 "2022-11-29T18:11:05Z")

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> [@rikadoo](#):
>
> Unfortunately the [Hue Being Ceiling](https://www.philips-hue.com/nl-nl/p/hue-white-ambiance-being-plafondlamp/8719514341111) is not working, i had good hopes. Is it possible to add this next update? It is the same as the LTC001, only the product number is now 929003055201

Added to next update of test version.

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### Author: ![rkollman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rkollman/32/41874_2.png) [@rkollman](https://community.homey.app/u/rkollman)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2022, 9:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/718 "2022-11-29T21:36:41Z")

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Hi, when I use the Homey app to install this app (I want to stop using the Hue bridge because it generates too much network traffic and so also a very slow response on lights turning on/off) I get the old 2.0.35 version installed.

When checking the changelog, 2.0.39 is already mentioned. How can I get this version? I think I need it, because not all my motion sensors are recognised in 2.0.35 :-(.

Also an extra question: when will you think there will be support for the smart wall switch modules?

Thanks for your reply!

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### Author: ![rkollman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rkollman/32/41874_2.png) [@rkollman](https://community.homey.app/u/rkollman)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2022, 9:56pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/719 "2022-11-29T21:56:00Z")

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Ah… Found it! Couldn’t upgrade to the latest stable (2.0.39) but the experimental 2.0.42 is now running on my Homey and that at least did the trick for my motion sensors!

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