# \[APP\]\[Pro\] Philips Hue Zigbee (Without the bridge)

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734>\
**Category:** Apps\
**Tags:** app, zigbee\
**Created:** [May 12, 2020, 11:53am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734 "2020-05-12T11:53:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 3

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**Author:** ![peltsi51](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peltsi51/32/12564_2.png) [@peltsi51](https://community.homey.app/u/peltsi51)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/45 "2020-07-30T16:27:31Z")

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Check the Group app if it can help you.

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**Author:** ![Fiek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fiek/32/28838_2.png) [@Fiek](https://community.homey.app/u/Fiek)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 8:22pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/46 "2020-07-30T20:22:13Z")

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Hoi Johan,

Did a ptp for 30 minutes but the Bulb is not responding and I also dont get an error in the app. Where in the app is the crash report send button?

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**Author:** ![Jante](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jante/32/16469_2.png) [@Jante](https://community.homey.app/u/Jante)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2020, 9:47am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/47 "2020-07-31T09:47:04Z")

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Quite right, the BT-enabled Lightstrip Plus is LCL001 (device iD 269, profile 260). There is a github issue open for this.

I actually got one delivered after searching the web stores quite thoroughly just to avoid the v4/BT variant and got the cheapest one that did not mention BT in the description.  
Received the latest upgraded one anyway…  
Sort of ”Good, but bad, but good, but bad,…”

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**Author:** ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 10:03pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/48 "2020-08-01T22:03:53Z")

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Hi @Fiek.  
You send the crash report for the app from …(more)/apps/Philips Hue Zigbee/Gear icon (upper right)

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**Author:** ![Fiek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fiek/32/28838_2.png) [@Fiek](https://community.homey.app/u/Fiek)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 11:18pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/49 "2020-08-01T23:18:54Z")

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It’s not there

 ![Screenshot_20200802-011728](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/e/5/e5d4606dc1d4457e7b38ed40af40d9628c849d2a.png)

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**Author:** ![Fiek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fiek/32/28838_2.png) [@Fiek](https://community.homey.app/u/Fiek)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/50 "2020-08-02T20:51:31Z")

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@johan_bendz I reverted back to 1.4.9 and the bulbs are working again.

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**Author:** ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 8:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/51 "2020-08-03T20:04:27Z")

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Thanks @Fiek for pointing this out, I found the problem in the test version. My bad! 😃

Now fixed (in next version).

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**Author:** ![Fiek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fiek/32/28838_2.png) [@Fiek](https://community.homey.app/u/Fiek)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/52 "2020-08-03T20:17:36Z")

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Glad to be of any help

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**Author:** ![Olaf\_Meier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/olaf_meier/32/8957_2.png) [@Olaf\_Meier](https://community.homey.app/u/Olaf_Meier)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 9:00am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/53 "2020-08-05T09:00:45Z")

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@ johan\_bendz will the motion detectors also be compatible with the V5?  
greetings

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**Author:** ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 9:16am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/54 "2020-08-05T09:16:14Z")

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Hi @Olaf_Meier, yes they will.

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**Author:** ![Zwanzig20](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/zwanzig20/32/49146_2.png) [@Zwanzig20](https://community.homey.app/u/Zwanzig20)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 10:29am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/55 "2020-08-05T10:29:15Z")

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Hello,  
I would be happy if the Philips Outdoorsensor  
“Hue Model 9290019758” would be adapted soon.

Thanks and greetings

Zwanzig

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**Author:** ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 10:49am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/56 "2020-08-05T10:49:39Z")

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Hi @Zwanzig20, is this a new version of the Outdoor Sensor?  
The version with model numer 8718699625474 is already supported by the app.

If this is a new version, can you please provide a link to it?

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**Author:** ![Fiek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fiek/32/28838_2.png) [@Fiek](https://community.homey.app/u/Fiek)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 2:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/57 "2020-08-05T14:15:24Z")

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@johan_bendz I have small question regarding your app. When a light bulb is manually switched off. The Homey app still marks the light bulb as on. Is it possible that it is marked as off in homey? I noticed also that if I manually switch a light on it still is marked as off in Homey. I have also innr bulbs I noticed A difference. when I manually switch an innr lamp on it is immediately marked as on in Homey app and when I manually switch it off it does the same as the Hue bulbs. Still marked on in Homey.

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**Author:** ![Zwanzig20](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/zwanzig20/32/49146_2.png) [@Zwanzig20](https://community.homey.app/u/Zwanzig20)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 2:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/58 "2020-08-05T14:27:12Z")

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Hallo, johan\_benfz  
I found a listing for MQTT here:

> **[Philips 9290019758 control via MQTT | Zigbee2MQTT](https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/9290019758.html)**
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> Integrate your Philips 9290019758 via Zigbee2MQTT with whatever smart home infrastructure you are using without the vendor's bridge or gateway.

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**Author:** ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 10:20pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/59 "2020-08-05T22:20:56Z")

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Hi @Fiek.  
Problem with turning smart lights off manually (power off) is that there is nothing that can report to Homey that it is no longer powered. When it comes to turning the lights on again I can’t tell what differs between the apps or devices but I will have a look at it.

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**Author:** ![gregory75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gregory75/32/17337_2.png) [@gregory75](https://community.homey.app/u/gregory75)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 9:39am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/60 "2020-08-12T09:39:41Z")

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Hi @johan_bendz.  
I finally decided to give it a try to the Hue motion sensor with the new app (2.0.1) and homey 5 - rc23. Until now it was connected to the Hue hub. What i noticed is that it’s reporting wrong luminance. It shows so many lux that it feels like it’s sitting on the sun itself (20701), where another sensor placed side by side and connected to the Hue hub shows only 82 lux. The motion and temperature seems to work just fine.

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**Author:** ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 10:06am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/61 "2020-08-12T10:06:01Z")

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Thanks @gregory75 for your feedback!  
Hmm, yeah… you are right… the values are way to high. I will have a look at the parser! Thx! 😃

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**Author:** ![Caseda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caseda/32/138695_2.png) [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 10:32am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/62 "2020-08-12T10:32:16Z")

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philips hue probably uses lumen instead of lux in its sensor (at least the hue bridge uses lumen) 🤔 so a calculation might need to happen.

calculation used by an old bridge app: `Math.pow( 10, ( sensor.state.lightLevel - 1 ) / 10000 );`  
making the value 20701 lumen into 117 lux.

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**Author:** ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 3:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/63 "2020-08-12T15:06:46Z")

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Thx @Caseda, I had it in the old version but was missing it in the new one. fixed now in next test version.

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**Author:** ![gregory75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gregory75/32/17337_2.png) [@gregory75](https://community.homey.app/u/gregory75)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/64 "2020-08-12T15:44:08Z")

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2.0.2 seems to work fine. Damn, you’re fast.  
Thanks a lot!

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