# \[APP\]\[Pro\] Philips Hue Zigbee (Without the bridge)

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734>\
**Category:** Apps\
**Tags:** app, zigbee\
**Created:** [May 12, 2020, 11:53am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734 "2020-05-12T11:53:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 29

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**Author:** ![Tor\_Erling\_Julusmoen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tor_erling_julusmoen/32/46747_2.png) [@Tor\_Erling\_Julusmoen](https://community.homey.app/u/Tor_Erling_Julusmoen)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 2:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/594 "2021-09-16T14:02:59Z")

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Thx for answer! Do you know what the other button with letter T Are? Side of setup button?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 7:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/595 "2021-09-16T19:02:40Z")

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YW! No, I’m sorry I don’t have the device myself. The ‘keep-awake’ hint works in general 😉

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**Author:** ![Tor\_Erling\_Julusmoen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tor_erling_julusmoen/32/46747_2.png) [@Tor\_Erling\_Julusmoen](https://community.homey.app/u/Tor_Erling_Julusmoen)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 12:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/596 "2021-09-17T12:05:34Z")

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To push setup button didn’t work at all… don’t find the sensor…it is something wrong with this Philips app! It will find it in the Philips hue bridge app… But I will have it without bridge🙄

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**Author:** ![CarstenT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/carstent/32/29830_2.png) [@CarstenT](https://community.homey.app/u/CarstenT)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 12:59pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/597 "2021-09-17T12:59:58Z")

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Here it’s the same terrible since the last Firmware Update. I can’t even use the button to authorize third party apps like Alexa.

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**Author:** ![Mike1233](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mike1233/32/20991_2.png) [@Mike1233](https://community.homey.app/u/Mike1233)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 8:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/598 "2021-09-18T08:48:09Z")

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> [@Tor\_Erling\_Julusmoen](#):
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> Thx for answer! Do you know what the other button with letter T Are? Side of setup button?

I did asked thuis question earlyer and the answer was.  
“From what I understand it’s a transmission test button.”

But hoe it works he didn’t know.

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**Author:** ![Jordi\_Andriessen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jordi_andriessen/32/34924_2.png) [@Jordi\_Andriessen](https://community.homey.app/u/Jordi_Andriessen)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 7:10pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/599 "2021-09-20T19:10:53Z")

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Hi Johan, any update on the 3 spot?  
Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Viking42](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/viking42/32/12687_2.png) [@Viking42](https://community.homey.app/u/Viking42)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 9:41am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/600 "2021-10-11T09:41:00Z")

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> [@Viking42](#):
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> Hi,
> 
> I just bought the outdoor sensor, connected to homey without bridge  
> I see that i cannot manage the detection sensitivity over homey  
> Do i need to buy the hue bridge to be able to manage the outdoor sensor sensitivity ?
> 
> thx

Hi, i’'m still stuck with this one  
would you have any suggestion here?

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**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 11:20am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/601 "2021-10-11T11:20:04Z")

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Regarding the sensitivity adjustment, there is an old request on [GitHub](https://github.com/JohanBendz/com.philips.hue.zigbee/issues/190), but the status is still open. Currently there is no possibility to adjust the sensitivity via device settings.  
If the outdoor sensor is connected via the Hue Bridge the sensitivity is adjustable.  
Please note that the Hue Bridge builds its own Zigbee network and therefore may need some repeaters (lamps, plugs) to ensure an good connection stability and range.  
Another point is that the 2.4 GHz frequency of the Wifi, Homey and Hue Bridge must not interfere with each other.

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**Author:** ![Cheggen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/cheggen/32/27654_2.png) [@Cheggen](https://community.homey.app/u/Cheggen)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 4:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/602 "2021-10-14T16:24:02Z")

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Hi.

Since yesterday, all my hue devices added directly to homey using the app, have stopped responding. Anyone else experiencing the same?  
I have filed an issue on it, but hav not gotten a response yet.

//Christian

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**Author:** ![Robert\_Zwetsloot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robert_zwetsloot/32/12399_2.png) [@Robert\_Zwetsloot](https://community.homey.app/u/Robert_Zwetsloot)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 9:43pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/603 "2021-10-14T21:43:01Z")

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Only Hue or other zigbee devices too?

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**Author:** ![Cheggen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/cheggen/32/27654_2.png) [@Cheggen](https://community.homey.app/u/Cheggen)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/604 "2021-10-14T22:16:05Z")

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All zigbee devices. Didnt realize that until now! I have restarted homey in the meantime, but it did not solve the problem. Any suggestions?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 10:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/605 "2021-10-14T22:51:33Z")

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Try this solution, Christian

> [@Zigbee network failure](https://community.homey.app/t/zigbee-network-failure/52411/5):
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> This trick solved the problem for me and other people: Hold your Homey upside down for 1 minute to enter recovery mode. When Homey enters the recovery, please go to [setup.athom.com](http://setup.athom.com) with a laptop or desktop. Select your preferred language, Press the ALT (Option on Mac) button to make continue in browser visible and click “continue in browser”, shown in grey. While entering your WiFi information hold your ALT/Option button and keep holding it until you get the “Download full update” option. W…

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**Author:** ![Robert\_Zwetsloot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robert_zwetsloot/32/12399_2.png) [@Robert\_Zwetsloot](https://community.homey.app/u/Robert_Zwetsloot)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 8:25am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/606 "2021-10-15T08:25:14Z")

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If that does not work, at least for me it didn’t last week, Please check you Wifi protocol of your router, mine was upgraded by my provider to 802.11ax (Wi-Fi6) which did not gave any errors on Homey but after a while obviously the Zigbee chip started tripping and made all my Zigbee devices unreachable. Verify if your’s is on 802.11b, 802.11g, 802.11n (Wi-Fi 4) too.

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**Author:** ![Cheggen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/cheggen/32/27654_2.png) [@Cheggen](https://community.homey.app/u/Cheggen)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 12:23pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/607 "2021-10-16T12:23:50Z")

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It worked doing the recovery, so thank you very much! I have also changed the standard power adapter just in case.

//Christian

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**Author:** ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 9:57pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/608 "2021-10-20T21:57:05Z")

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> [@Jordi\_Andriessen](#):
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> Hi Johan, any update on the 3 spot?  
> Thanks!

Oops… Sorry Jordi, I’ll put some effort into it.

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**Author:** ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 10:12pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/609 "2021-10-20T22:12:43Z")

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> [@DirkG](#):
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> Regarding the sensitivity adjustment, there is an old request on [GitHub](https://github.com/JohanBendz/com.philips.hue.zigbee/issues/190), but the status is still open. Currently there is no possibility to adjust the sensitivity via device settings.

Well, I have this working randomly in the lab… since I have to work outside Athoms framework I have built a few Hue specific clusters and adress the Hue specific functions using these. Problem is that the sensors run on battery and such devices does not always talk with the controller… so when I want to change a setting it does not always trigger. There are ways to handle this so I will eventually have it working… when I have time to prioritize this feature 🙂

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**Author:** ![KvM](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kvm/32/6707_2.png) [@KvM](https://community.homey.app/u/KvM)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 8:11am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/610 "2021-10-26T08:11:11Z")

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Yesterday I tried to add a new bought Hue smart plug / socket. It connected as an unknow zigbee device. After removal, restarting Homey, resetting the device, the same happened again. It is working like that, but maybe something went wrong, or did Philips change the smart plug?

Zigbee device shows:  
Signify Netherlands B.V.  
LOM007

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/9/d/9d00b0a24d8f3b4b6607fca7f031955d7ccc2dca.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 8:33am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/611 "2021-10-26T08:33:16Z")

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Hi @KvM, LOM007 is a new device ID that I will have to add to the app. Can you please do an interview and post the data to make sure nothing else has changed.

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**Author:** ![KvM](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kvm/32/6707_2.png) [@KvM](https://community.homey.app/u/KvM)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 9:14am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/612 "2021-10-26T09:14:37Z")

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Hi Johan,

I already figured. Here is the info:

```auto
  "ids": {
    "modelId": "LOM007",
    "manufacturerName": "Signify Netherlands B.V."
  },
  "endpoints": {
    "endpointDescriptors": [
      {
        "endpointId": 11,
        "applicationProfileId": 260,
        "applicationDeviceId": 266,
        "applicationDeviceVersion": 0,
        "_reserved1": 1,
        "inputClusters": [
          0,
          3,
          4,
          5,
          6,
          8,
          4096,
          64514
        ],
        "outputClusters": [
          25
        ]
      },
      {
        "endpointId": 242,
        "applicationProfileId": 41440,
        "applicationDeviceId": 97,
        "applicationDeviceVersion": 0,
        "_reserved1": 0,
        "inputClusters": [],
        "outputClusters": [
          33
        ]
      }
    ],
    "endpoints": {
      "11": {
        "clusters": {
          "basic": {
            "attributes": [
              {
                "id": 0,
                "name": "zclVersion",
                "value": 2
              },
              {
                "id": 1,
                "name": "appVersion",
                "value": 2
              },
              {
                "id": 2,
                "name": "stackVersion",
                "value": 1
              },
              {
                "id": 3,
                "name": "hwVersion",
                "value": 1
              },
              {
                "id": 4,
                "name": "manufacturerName",
                "value": "Signify Netherlands B.V."
              },
              {
                "id": 5,
                "name": "modelId",
                "value": "LOM007"
              },
              {
                "id": 6,
                "name": "dateCode",
                "value": "20201117"
              },
              {
                "id": 7,
                "name": "powerSource",
                "value": "mains"
              },
              {
                "id": 8,
                "name": "appProfileVersion",
                "value": 0
              },
              {
                "id": 9
              },
              {
                "id": 10
              },
              {
                "id": 11
              },
              {
                "id": 16384,
                "name": "swBuildId",
                "value": "1.76.11"
              },
              {
                "id": 65533,
                "name": "clusterRevision",
                "value": 1
              }
            ],
            "commandsGenerated": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND",
            "commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
          },
          "identify": {
            "attributes": [
              {
                "id": 0
              },
              {
                "id": 65533,
                "name": "clusterRevision",
                "value": 1
              }
            ],
            "commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
          },
          "groups": {
            "attributes": [
              {
                "id": 0,
                "name": "nameSupport",
                "value": {
                  "type": "Buffer",
                  "data": [
                    0
                  ]
                }
              },
              {
                "id": 65533,
                "name": "clusterRevision",
                "value": 1
              }
            ],
            "commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
          },
          "scenes": {
            "attributes": [
              {
                "id": 0
              },
              {
                "id": 1
              },
              {
                "id": 2
              },
              {
                "id": 3
              },
              {
                "id": 4
              },
              {
                "id": 65533,
                "name": "clusterRevision",
                "value": 1
              }
            ],
            "commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
          },
          "onOff": {
            "attributes": [
              {
                "id": 0,
                "name": "onOff",
                "value": false
              },
              {
                "id": 16384
              },
              {
                "id": 16385,
                "name": "onTime",
                "value": 0
              },
              {
                "id": 16386,
                "name": "offWaitTime",
                "value": 0
              },
              {
                "id": 16387
              },
              {
                "id": 65533,
                "name": "clusterRevision",
                "value": 1
              }
            ],
            "commandsGenerated": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND",
            "commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
          },
          "levelControl": {
            "attributes": [
              {
                "id": 0,
                "name": "currentLevel",
                "value": 254
              },
              {
                "id": 1,
                "name": "remainingTime",
                "value": 0
              },
              {
                "id": 15
              },
              {
                "id": 16384
              },
              {
                "id": 65533,
                "name": "clusterRevision",
                "value": 1
              }
            ],
            "commandsGenerated": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND",
            "commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
          },
          "touchlink": {
            "attributes": [
              {
                "id": 65533,
                "name": "clusterRevision",
                "value": 1,
                "reportingConfiguration": {
                  "status": "UNREPORTABLE_ATTRIBUTE",
                  "direction": "reported"
                }
              }
            ],
            "commandsGenerated": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND",
            "commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
          }
        },
        "bindings": {
          "ota": {
            "attributes": [],
            "commandsGenerated": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND",
            "commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
          }
        }
      },
      "242": {
        "clusters": {},
        "bindings": {}
      }
    }
  }

```

Thanks for the quick reply, for me it is no rush though 🙂

Koen

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**Author:** ![Jeroen\_W](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jeroen_w/32/9803_2.png) [@Jeroen\_W](https://community.homey.app/u/Jeroen_W)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2021, 11:26pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/613 "2021-11-06T23:26:30Z")

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i was wondering if the [Wall Switch Module](https://www.philips-hue.com/en-gb/p/hue-philips-hue-wall-switch-module/8719514318045) is working, couldn’t find it in the device list.

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