# \[APP\]\[Pro\] Philips Hue Zigbee (Without the bridge)
**URL:** https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734
**Category:** Apps
**Tags:** app, zigbee
**Created:** [May 12, 2020, 11:53am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734 "2020-05-12T11:53:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 21
### Author:  [@Joka](https://community.homey.app/u/Joka)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2021, 3:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/429 "2021-02-18T15:48:07Z")
I had the same problem, re-adding solved the problem. In addition I had to do it also with the indoor sensor.
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### Author:  [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2021, 10:53pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/430 "2021-02-18T22:53:35Z")
Hi @petomei and anyone else having issues with the motion sensors in firmware 5.
What you can try is:
1. Interview the device, test if it works. \> [Homey Developer Tools](https://developer.athom.com/tools/zigbee)
2. remove batteries for a while, test if it works.
3. pair the device again, Homey should say it’s already included, restart the Philips Hue Zigbee app, test if it works.
4. remove the device and pair it again, test if it works.
If you have tried all of the above and the sensor still does not work please send me a crash report from the app.
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### Author:  [@Joka](https://community.homey.app/u/Joka)
#### Post date: [February 19, 2021, 7:24am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/431 "2021-02-19T07:24:34Z")
Hi @johan_bendz, regarding to the philips motion sensors with the v5 and the new app version the red led signal is off and doesn’t blink if movement is recognized after pairing.
is it possible to activate it again?
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### Author:  [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [February 19, 2021, 12:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/432 "2021-02-19T12:15:58Z")
Hi @Joka, yes it’s by default disabled in firmware 5.
I am looking into adding a setting to let users enable/disable the led.
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### Author:  [@Mike1233](https://community.homey.app/u/Mike1233)
#### Post date: [February 19, 2021, 11:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/433 "2021-02-19T23:51:20Z")
I also had issues with the indoor motion sensor after the update last week.
And the temperature and brightness worked.
But the brightness reacted immediately as soon as you put your hand above it and removed it again.
After remove it and re-adding it back to Homey, the brightnes will only update after a few minutes. Is not a problem, but it was strange.
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### Author:  [@bjornarfjelldal](https://community.homey.app/u/bjornarfjelldal)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2021, 11:15am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/434 "2021-02-20T11:15:17Z")
Hi, @johan_bendz or any others! Is there any way to dim Hue smooth with Homey with press/release from buttons, without using combersome apps like Transitions? For instance a “stop current dim” flow card? Thanks for your effort on the app!
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### Author:  [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2021, 11:55am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/435 "2021-02-20T11:55:04Z")
There are several ways to do that without extra apps.
You can use the relative dim flow card, each push can dim up or down x% and using durantion the transition between the levels will be smooth.
You can also create a loop flow that starts an other flow that dims x% and then one more etc. before starting each dim level it checks if a variable it true/false. And for each push on your button the variable flips.
and so on 🙂
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### Author:  [@bjornarfjelldal](https://community.homey.app/u/bjornarfjelldal)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2021, 12:03pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/436 "2021-02-20T12:03:44Z")
Thanks for your quick reply, @johan_bendz. I have tried your first suggestion allready, but pressing the button 5-6 times to dim sufficiently is not ideal when you want it extra bright or extra dark.
Perhaps your other suggestion will work better as a traditional “hold to dim and release to stop dim” approach? Will it work to cancel the loop flow on release, stopping the dim that way?
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### Author:  [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2021, 12:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/437 "2021-02-20T12:15:33Z")
With the Hue Dimmer Switch these flows works really smooth. Because the Dimmer Switch sends a dim up/down pulse again and again.
> [@\[APP\]\[Pro\] Philips Hue Zigbee (Without the bridge)](https://community.homey.app/t/app-philips-hue-zigbee/29734/182):
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> Sorry @johan_bendz, another question. How and when do you set the variable “Dim up/down status”?
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### Author:  [@bjornarfjelldal](https://community.homey.app/u/bjornarfjelldal)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2021, 2:30pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/438 "2021-02-20T14:30:09Z")
Yes, but it does not solve it for other buttons / remotes. Any suggestions there? 🙂
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### Author:  [@TheFops](https://community.homey.app/u/TheFops)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2021, 2:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/439 "2021-02-20T14:35:48Z")
Hey @johan_bendz,
I reported the problem stated in the quotes bug some time ago. Today I added some new GU10 BT White Ambiance lights, and I run into the same problem. Do I do something wrong or is it still a bug?
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### Author:  [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2021, 2:57pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/440 "2021-02-20T14:57:20Z")
As I do not know which switch you are using, I extra mentioned the Hue Dimmer Switch in the post.
And if I had another solution, I would let you know. But I am interested in a solution myself.
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### Author:  [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2021, 9:19am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/441 "2021-02-21T09:19:25Z")
**Regarding Motion Sensors that does not report motion after upgrade to firmware 5!**
EDITED AFTER VALUABLE FEEDBACK!
Some users with Hue Motions/Outdoor Sensors might experience issues reporting motion after upgrading to Homey Firmware 5 / SDK3 version of the Philips Hue Zigbee app.
I am working on finding a fix for this, but so far it looks like the sensors needs to be removed/re-paired to work again.
I know how relying on sensors to work everyone is and what a pain it is to handle broken flows when a device has to be re-paired. Sorry for any inconvenience!
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### Author:  [@Joka](https://community.homey.app/u/Joka)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2021, 12:22pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/442 "2021-02-21T12:22:08Z")
Hi Johan, your engagement is really impressive! Fortunately I bought a HUE bridge weeks ago and 'm really happy with the coexistence of the HUE bridge, Homey in combination with your app and the mixed possibilities.
Question: Is it possible to pair the motion sensor with HUE + Homey parallel? Or do I have do switch to HUE for the firmware update of the sensors?
THX in advanced!
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### Author:  [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2021, 12:33pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/443 "2021-02-21T12:33:36Z")
> [@Joka](#):
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> Is it possible to pair the motion sensor with HUE + Homey parallel?
Nope, because the Hue bridge and Homey have their own Zigbee network.
> [@Joka](#):
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> Or do I have do switch to HUE for the firmware update of the sensors?
Yes.
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### Author:  [@Joka](https://community.homey.app/u/Joka)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2021, 12:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/444 "2021-02-21T12:48:36Z")
Actually I know that but I hoped/dreamed to avoid this anyway 😉
Just do it NOW.
THX
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### Author:  [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2021, 2:01pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/445 "2021-02-21T14:01:42Z")
Hi there, as I have not heard of this problem from anyone else I hesitate to fix a potential bug I found in the driver. Are you able to test code from github using a CLI installation? Anyone else experiencing this problem with White Ambiance devices?
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### Author:  [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2021, 2:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/446 "2021-02-21T14:11:53Z")
Can someone with sensor problems test this before I release it to app store?
> **[GitHub - JohanBendz/com.philips.hue.zigbee: Philips Hue app for Homey that uses...](https://github.com/JohanBendz/com.philips.hue.zigbee/tree/sdk3)**
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> sdk3
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### Author:  [@TheFops](https://community.homey.app/u/TheFops)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2021, 2:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/447 "2021-02-21T14:37:22Z")
I understand.
Yeah sure I can test some code. Just let me know what to do.
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### Author:  [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2021, 2:50pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/448 "2021-02-21T14:50:14Z")
@TheFops
If you are new to CLI: [[HOW TO] CLI install method](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-cli-install-method/198)
My repository for the app is linked a few posts up.
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