# \[APP\]\[Pro\] Philips Hue Zigbee (Without the bridge)
**URL:** https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734
**Category:** Apps
**Tags:** app, zigbee
**Created:** [May 12, 2020, 11:53am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734 "2020-05-12T11:53:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@rvdeijk](https://community.homey.app/u/rvdeijk)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2021, 4:30pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/384 "2021-01-14T16:30:01Z")
> [@johan\_bendz](#):
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> and will update the firmware 4.2 version in a while (saving up updates to have them all at the same time
@Vicky Have you provided the right ID’s, then it can be used in v4 after the update, concerning:
> [@Vicky](#):
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> I tried to add a Philips Play Lightbar to Homey via your app but it’s not detecting as a Hue devices but added as generic ZigBee device
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### Author:  [@Hansvdb](https://community.homey.app/u/Hansvdb)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2021, 5:59pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/385 "2021-01-14T17:59:28Z")
@johan_bendz, thanks for your swift reply…
For me to understand. When looking in Philips Hue ZigBee app I see version v.2.0.18.
You are taking about version 4.2 and firmware 5. Am I missing something? Or looking in the wrong place…?
Any clue when you’re changes are available for download?
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### Author:  [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2021, 10:56pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/386 "2021-01-14T22:56:21Z")
> [@Hansvdb](#):
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> When looking in Philips Hue ZigBee app I see version v.2.0.18.
> You are taking about version 4.2 and firmware 5.
Hi @Hansvdb, version 2.0.18 runs on Homey Firmware 4.2. There is also an experimental Homey Firmware 5 and the latest app version for this is now 2.0.24
As Atom is about to release Homey Firmware 5 to live “soon” I add support for new devices primarily to that version(s) of the app.
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### Author:  [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2021, 10:57pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/387 "2021-01-14T22:57:20Z")
New version 2.0.24 (firmware 5)
New feature: Flow Card for Blink.
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### Author:  [@bjornarfjelldal](https://community.homey.app/u/bjornarfjelldal)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/388 "2021-01-16T17:02:07Z")
Thanks for your frequent updates, @johan_bendz!
As I see you are able to add certain behaviours as flow cards (i.e. Blink), I have to ask; is it possible to add some sort of dim behaviour that can be used with hold/release buttons on remotes;
One flow card to start dimming up/down and one flow card to stop the dim? (The Fibaro Dimmer 2 have these flow cards for instance.)
Or is the only way to achieve this by creating advanced flows with other apps such as Transitions?
Thanks again for your effort 🙂
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### Author:  [@moppes](https://community.homey.app/u/moppes)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2021, 8:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/389 "2021-01-17T20:47:43Z")
Hi, so my Play lightbar should already work in 4.2?
It is recognized as generic device with those values
Cheers
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### Author:  [@rvdeijk](https://community.homey.app/u/rvdeijk)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2021, 9:21pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/390 "2021-01-17T21:21:57Z")
I think they work in V5, not in v4.2 yet:
> [@MarkL](#):
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> Made a ticket for it: [Philiops Play Lightbar not detected as such (Added as generic Zigbee device) · Issue #267 · JohanBendz/com.philips.hue.zigbee · GitHub](https://github.com/JohanBendz/com.philips.hue.zigbee/issues/267)
> Added to the firmware 5 version of the app. I’ll look inte adding it to the firmware 4.2 version soon.
> [@johan\_bendz](#):
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> and will update the firmware 4.2 version in a while (saving up updates to have them all at the same time
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### Author:  [@Nitramevo](https://community.homey.app/u/Nitramevo)
#### Post date: [January 20, 2021, 3:45pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/391 "2021-01-20T15:45:14Z")
@johan_bendz Just bought 10 Hue Motion sensors to report motion and temperature in each room. I will connect directly to Homey using your Hue app as my Hue bridge is ‘full’ (50 devices). I just added the first motion sensor and it is routing via a nearby router device according to the developer page. But it only updated values once (including the motion alarm) and seem to be stuck (the motion alarm is still on). I can see that the device is responding to motion via the front light diode. But Homey is not updating values. I have tried to restart the app. I also just added a Hue dimmer switch and is works fine. What to do?
Running FM 4.2.0. Homey Pro (early 2019). Latest version of your app v2.0.18
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### Author:  [@bjornarfjelldal](https://community.homey.app/u/bjornarfjelldal)
#### Post date: [January 23, 2021, 3:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/392 "2021-01-23T15:48:16Z")
To simplify my question after flowing some more, what would be ideal is simply a **stop current dim flow card** or similar 🙂
Is this doable within the limits of Hue?
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### Author:  [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [January 23, 2021, 9:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/393 "2021-01-23T21:48:56Z")
> [@Nitramevo](#):
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> But it only updated values once
Hi @Nitramevo, not sure if I can fix your issues since it sounds like a Homey Zigbee problem. Please send a crash report from the Philips Hue Zigbee App and I will have a look at it.
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### Author:  [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)
#### Post date: [January 24, 2021, 6:07pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/394 "2021-01-24T18:07:40Z")
Hi @johan_bendz,
I guess there went something wrong with the latest update version 2.0.25 (Experimentell).
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### Author:  [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [January 24, 2021, 6:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/395 "2021-01-24T18:27:36Z")
I hope not, it’s for firmware 4.2
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### Author:  [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)
#### Post date: [January 24, 2021, 7:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/396 "2021-01-24T19:11:37Z")
And what is the actual version for v5.x?
 
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### Author:  [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [January 24, 2021, 7:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/397 "2021-01-24T19:32:09Z")
Version 2.0.24 is the latest version for firmware 5. Once I have version 2.0.25 as stable for firmware 4.2 I will release a new 2.0.26 version for firmware 5. Anything special you wait for? 🙂
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### Author:  [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)
#### Post date: [January 24, 2021, 8:18pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/398 "2021-01-24T20:18:14Z")
Maybe I’m a little bit stupid, but there is no v2.0.24 available in the App Store. That’s the only thing what I want to say.
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### Author:  [@rvdeijk](https://community.homey.app/u/rvdeijk)
#### Post date: [January 24, 2021, 8:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/399 "2021-01-24T20:24:00Z")
@johan_bendz Indeed normal store is right now on 2.0.18 and test store is on 2.0.25. And it seems 2.0.25 (test) can be installed on Homey 4.2, so I think there is no V5 version anymore.
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### Author:  [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)
#### Post date: [January 24, 2021, 8:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/400 "2021-01-24T20:25:09Z")
Thank you, @rvdeijk! I’m not stupid! 🙏🏼😉
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### Author:  [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [January 24, 2021, 8:34pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/401 "2021-01-24T20:34:03Z")
Ah, yes… that’s correct. The only way to update 4.2 is to remove 5. Once Athom has accepted the new 4.2 version I can upload a new 5 version. Confusing… I know 😂
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### Author:  [@FKey](https://community.homey.app/u/FKey)
#### Post date: [January 24, 2021, 9:45pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/402 "2021-01-24T21:45:20Z")
Dont think you can connect it to homey directly.
But if you use the hue bridge you can control your lights using this remote AND using the hue bridge at the same time.
And the bridge connects to homey again:
So you have 3 ways to comtrol your lights:
1. Using the livingcolors remote
2. Using homey
3. Using the hue app
Works great!
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### Author:  [@MarkL](https://community.homey.app/u/MarkL)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2021, 7:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/404 "2021-01-26T19:04:10Z")
Update to Homey 5 and they now work. Awesome job! Whole apps works smoothly so far on V5 so nice job there!
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