# \[APP\]\[Pro\] Philips Hue Zigbee (Without the bridge)
**URL:** https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734
**Category:** Apps
**Tags:** app, zigbee
**Created:** [May 12, 2020, 11:53am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734 "2020-05-12T11:53:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 18
### Author:  [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2021, 11:40pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/364 "2021-01-03T23:40:13Z")
> [@Martin\_Tschanun](#):
>
> Will there be a ‘switch’ in near future to change it from motion to occupancy?
Hi @Martin_Tschanun, sorry to say the test went bad… multiple users reported issues with their devices so I put this on wait for a while. Too many other things to fix right now. In time I will add just that, the ability to choose how the unit will handle reports.
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### Author:  [@Martin\_Tschanun](https://community.homey.app/u/Martin_Tschanun)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2021, 7:57am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/365 "2021-01-04T07:57:41Z")
Hi Johan
thanks for your answer and your support.
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### Author:  [@bjornarfjelldal](https://community.homey.app/u/bjornarfjelldal)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2021, 9:46am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/366 "2021-01-05T09:46:42Z")
@johan_bendz, thanks for your effort with the app.
I have some new Philips White ambiance BT GU10 bulbs (part of a 3 bulb hue spot light) that isn’t recognized.
5047331P6 is their ID, any chance you could add them in? 🙂
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### Author:  [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2021, 12:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/367 "2021-01-05T12:41:25Z")
> [@bjornarfjelldal](#):
>
> Philips White ambiance BT GU10 bulbs
Hi @bjornarfjelldal, can you please provide an url to where I can see this unit (at Philps or a vendor).
Have you checked the model ID of all lights? There have been differences between them in other setups.
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### Author:  [@bjornarfjelldal](https://community.homey.app/u/bjornarfjelldal)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2021, 3:34pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/368 "2021-01-05T15:34:48Z")
Hi @johan_bendz ! Thanks for the quick reply. Sure. So, I have bought two different Philips Hue 3x spot rigs;
[https://www.power.no/hjem-og-fritid/belysning/smart-belysning/smarte-lamper-og-spotter/smart-taklamper/philips-hue-runner-black-3x55w/p-1101998/](https://www.power.no/hjem-og-fritid/belysning/smart-belysning/smarte-lamper-og-spotter/smart-taklamper/philips-hue-runner-black-3x55w/p-1101998/)
[https://www.power.no/hjem-og-fritid/belysning/smart-belysning/smarte-lamper-og-spotter/smart-taklamper/philips-hue-buckram-trippel-spotlampe-hvit/p-1101969/?q=1101969](https://www.power.no/hjem-og-fritid/belysning/smart-belysning/smarte-lamper-og-spotter/smart-taklamper/philips-hue-buckram-trippel-spotlampe-hvit/p-1101969/?q=1101969)
It seems like each lamp has the same ID between spot lights, but Runner (5309330P6) is different from Buckram (5047331P6). None of them are recognized by Homey 5.0rc and the latest Hue Zigbee app (yet!).
Gang trapp spot 1-3 is the Buckram and Hytta spot 1-3 is the Runner.
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### Author:  [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2021, 5:53pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/369 "2021-01-05T17:53:37Z")
> [@bjornarfjelldal](#):
>
> 5309330P6
OK, thanks. Can you please also provide an interview per device?
(Remember to mark the text and hit the \ icon/button in the editor before posting them). 🙂
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### Author:  [@Tregobad](https://community.homey.app/u/Tregobad)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2021, 5:55pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/370 "2021-01-05T17:55:14Z")
@johan_bendz
Hello Johan,
The battery status cannot be queried with the Philips Dimmer Switch (RWL021). There is no tag for the battery status. The app: “Battery monitor” cannot find the dimmer switch either (since there is no battery tag). If the dimmer switch is connected to the original Philips Hue hub (then with the Athom app), the problem does not exist. Anything else is working as desired.
Maybe you can take a look, thank you very much.
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### Author:  [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2021, 6:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/371 "2021-01-05T18:04:35Z")
> [@Tregobad](#):
>
> Philips Dimmer Switch (RWL021). There is no tag for the battery status
Hi @Tregobad, this unit is currently only reporting battery alarm, not battery level. This is why Battery Monitor is not picking it up. If level is requested I can have a look at adding it. You should have battery alarm activated as a flow card.
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### Author:  [@Tregobad](https://community.homey.app/u/Tregobad)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2021, 6:10pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/372 "2021-01-05T18:10:20Z")
Hi Johan,
Battery level would be good too.
Thanks for the quick and detailed answer.
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### Author:  [@bjornarfjelldal](https://community.homey.app/u/bjornarfjelldal)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2021, 7:13pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/373 "2021-01-05T19:13:39Z")
@johan_bendz sure!
This is the Buckram:
```
"ids": {
"modelId": "5047331P6",
"manufacturerName": "Philips"
},
"endpoints": {
"endpointDescriptors": [
{
"endpointId": 11,
"applicationProfileId": 260,
"applicationDeviceId": 268,
"applicationDeviceVersion": 0,
"_reserved1": 1,
"inputClusters": [
0,
3,
4,
5,
6,
8,
4096,
64514,
768
],
"outputClusters": [
25
]
},
{
"endpointId": 242,
"applicationProfileId": 41440,
"applicationDeviceId": 97,
"applicationDeviceVersion": 0,
"_reserved1": 0,
"inputClusters": [],
"outputClusters": [
33
]
}
],
"endpoints": {
"11": {
"clusters": {
"basic": {
"attributes": [
{
"id": 0,
"name": "zclVersion",
"value": 2
},
{
"id": 1,
"name": "appVersion",
"value": 2
},
{
"id": 2,
"name": "stackVersion",
"value": 1
},
{
"id": 3,
"name": "hwVersion",
"value": 1
},
{
"id": 4,
"name": "manufacturerName",
"value": "Philips"
},
{
"id": 5,
"name": "modelId",
"value": "5047331P6"
},
{
"id": 6,
"name": "dateCode",
"value": "20200327"
},
{
"id": 7,
"name": "powerSource",
"value": "mains"
},
{
"id": 8,
"name": "appProfileVersion",
"value": 0
},
{
"id": 9
},
{
"id": 10
},
{
"id": 11
},
{
"id": 16384,
"name": "swBuildId",
"value": "1.65.11_hB798F2B"
},
{
"id": 65533,
"name": "clusterRevision",
"value": 1
}
],
"commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
},
"identify": {
"attributes": [
{
"id": 0
},
{
"id": 65533,
"name": "clusterRevision",
"value": 1
}
],
"commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
},
"groups": {
"attributes": [
{
"id": 0,
"name": "nameSupport",
"value": {
"type": "Buffer",
"data": [
0
]
}
},
{
"id": 65533,
"name": "clusterRevision",
"value": 1
}
],
"commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
},
"scenes": {
"attributes": [
{
"id": 0
},
{
"id": 1
},
{
"id": 2
},
{
"id": 3
},
{
"id": 4
},
{
"id": 65533,
"name": "clusterRevision",
"value": 1
}
],
"commandsGenerated": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND",
"commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
},
"onOff": {
"attributes": [
{
"id": 0,
"name": "onOff",
"value": true
},
{
"id": 16384
},
{
"id": 16385,
"name": "onTime",
"value": 0
},
{
"id": 16386,
"name": "offWaitTime",
"value": 0
},
{
"id": 16387
},
{
"id": 65533,
"name": "clusterRevision",
"value": 1
}
],
"commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
},
"levelControl": {
"attributes": [
{
"id": 0,
"name": "currentLevel",
"value": 254
},
{
"id": 1,
"name": "remainingTime",
"value": 0
},
{
"id": 15
},
{
"id": 16384
},
{
"id": 65533,
"name": "clusterRevision",
"value": 1
}
],
"commandsGenerated": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND",
"commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
},
"touchlink": {
"attributes": [
{
"id": 65533,
"name": "clusterRevision",
"value": 1,
"reportingConfiguration": {
"status": "UNREPORTABLE_ATTRIBUTE",
"direction": "reported"
}
}
],
"commandsGenerated": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND",
"commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
},
"colorControl": {
"attributes": [
{
"id": 2
},
{
"id": 3,
"name": "currentX",
"value": 29972
},
{
"id": 4,
"name": "currentY",
"value": 26871
},
{
"id": 7,
"name": "colorTemperatureMireds",
"value": 366
},
{
"id": 8,
"name": "colorMode",
"value": "colorTemperatureMireds"
},
{
"id": 15
},
{
"id": 16
},
{
"id": 17
},
{
"id": 18
},
{
"id": 19
},
{
"id": 21
},
{
"id": 22
},
{
"id": 23
},
{
"id": 25
},
{
"id": 26
},
{
"id": 27
},
{
"id": 48
},
{
"id": 49
},
{
"id": 50
},
{
"id": 51
},
{
"id": 52
},
{
"id": 54
}
],
"commandsGenerated": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND",
"commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
}
},
"bindings": {
"ota": {
"attributes": [],
"commandsGenerated": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND",
"commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
}
}
},
"242": {
"clusters": {},
"bindings": {}
}
}
}
```
And this is the Runner:
```
"ids": {
"modelId": "5309330P6",
"manufacturerName": "Philips"
},
"endpoints": {
"endpointDescriptors": [
{
"endpointId": 11,
"applicationProfileId": 260,
"applicationDeviceId": 268,
"applicationDeviceVersion": 0,
"_reserved1": 1,
"inputClusters": [
0,
3,
4,
5,
6,
8,
4096,
64514,
768
],
"outputClusters": [
25
]
},
{
"endpointId": 242,
"applicationProfileId": 41440,
"applicationDeviceId": 97,
"applicationDeviceVersion": 0,
"_reserved1": 0,
"inputClusters": [],
"outputClusters": [
33
]
}
],
"endpoints": {
"11": {
"clusters": {
"basic": {
"attributes": [
{
"id": 0,
"name": "zclVersion",
"value": 2
},
{
"id": 1,
"name": "appVersion",
"value": 2
},
{
"id": 2,
"name": "stackVersion",
"value": 1
},
{
"id": 3,
"name": "hwVersion",
"value": 3
},
{
"id": 4,
"name": "manufacturerName",
"value": "Philips"
},
{
"id": 5,
"name": "modelId",
"value": "5309330P6"
},
{
"id": 6,
"name": "dateCode",
"value": "20200327"
},
{
"id": 7,
"name": "powerSource",
"value": "mains"
},
{
"id": 8,
"name": "appProfileVersion",
"value": 0
},
{
"id": 9
},
{
"id": 10
},
{
"id": 11
},
{
"id": 16384,
"name": "swBuildId",
"value": "1.65.11_hB798F2B"
},
{
"id": 65533,
"name": "clusterRevision",
"value": 1
}
],
"commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
},
"identify": {
"attributes": [
{
"id": 0
},
{
"id": 65533,
"name": "clusterRevision",
"value": 1
}
],
"commandsGenerated": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND",
"commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
},
"groups": {
"attributes": [
{
"id": 0,
"name": "nameSupport",
"value": {
"type": "Buffer",
"data": [
0
]
}
},
{
"id": 65533,
"name": "clusterRevision",
"value": 1
}
],
"commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
},
"scenes": {
"attributes": [
{
"id": 0
},
{
"id": 1
},
{
"id": 2
},
{
"id": 3
},
{
"id": 4
},
{
"id": 65533,
"name": "clusterRevision",
"value": 1
}
],
"commandsGenerated": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND",
"commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
},
"onOff": {
"attributes": [
{
"id": 0,
"name": "onOff",
"value": false
},
{
"id": 16384
},
{
"id": 16385,
"name": "onTime",
"value": 0
},
{
"id": 16386,
"name": "offWaitTime",
"value": 0
},
{
"id": 16387
},
{
"id": 65533,
"name": "clusterRevision",
"value": 1
}
],
"commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
},
"levelControl": {
"attributes": [
{
"id": 0,
"name": "currentLevel",
"value": 254
},
{
"id": 1,
"name": "remainingTime",
"value": 0
},
{
"id": 15
},
{
"id": 16384
},
{
"id": 65533,
"name": "clusterRevision",
"value": 1
}
],
"commandsGenerated": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND",
"commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
},
"touchlink": {
"attributes": [
{
"id": 65533,
"name": "clusterRevision",
"value": 1,
"reportingConfiguration": {
"status": "UNREPORTABLE_ATTRIBUTE",
"direction": "reported"
}
}
],
"commandsGenerated": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND",
"commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
},
"colorControl": {
"attributes": [
{
"id": 2
},
{
"id": 3,
"name": "currentX",
"value": 24929
},
{
"id": 4,
"name": "currentY",
"value": 24693
},
{
"id": 7,
"name": "colorTemperatureMireds",
"value": 366
},
{
"id": 8,
"name": "colorMode",
"value": "colorTemperatureMireds"
},
{
"id": 15
},
{
"id": 16
},
{
"id": 17
},
{
"id": 18
},
{
"id": 19
},
{
"id": 21
},
{
"id": 22
},
{
"id": 23
},
{
"id": 25
},
{
"id": 26
},
{
"id": 27
},
{
"id": 48
},
{
"id": 49
},
{
"id": 50
},
{
"id": 51
},
{
"id": 52
},
{
"id": 54
}
],
"commandsGenerated": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND",
"commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
}
},
"bindings": {
"ota": {
"attributes": [],
"commandsGenerated": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND",
"commandsReceived": "UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND"
}
}
},
"242": {
"clusters": {},
"bindings": {}
}
}
}
```
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### Author:  [@TheFops](https://community.homey.app/u/TheFops)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2021, 11:13am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/374 "2021-01-07T11:13:55Z")
Hi there @johan_bendz
First of all, I love this app. I’m running Homey on V5 RC50 and so far had no problems using my devices through this app.
However, because I moved to a different house I bought some new light bulbs. I tried to add a GU10 White Ambiance BT. When added, Homey also shows a color changer. If I trie to change the color (for example to red) I get an error ‘UNSUP\_CLUSTER\_COMMAND’. I know it’s not a hue color bulb, so I think it’s a bug that the color pciker is included?
The other functions of the bulb seem to work just fine.
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### Author:  [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2021, 11:49am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/375 "2021-01-07T11:49:33Z")
> [@TheFops](#):
>
> GU10 White Ambiance BT
Hi @TheFops, can you please check what device ID your unit have?
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### Author:  [@TheFops](https://community.homey.app/u/TheFops)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2021, 12:09pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/376 "2021-01-07T12:09:01Z")
Hi @johan_bendz,
LTG002
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### Author:  [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2021, 1:01pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/377 "2021-01-07T13:01:18Z")
> [@bjornarfjelldal](#):
>
> Runner
Hi again @bjornarfjelldal.
Do you add all three spotlights as one device or do you add them separately?
I have the single Runner device in the app, so I just wonder if I should add a new device (3 spotlight Runner) or add the code for your devices to the single Runner device already supported by the app.
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### Author:  [@bjornarfjelldal](https://community.homey.app/u/bjornarfjelldal)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2021, 2:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/378 "2021-01-07T14:05:39Z")
Both spot lights do simply consist of 3 removable GU10 bulbs, and are also added as such (individually) in the Hue BT app at least (but with a spot light icon). I think the best would be to include them as individual GU10 White ambiance BT bulbs, as they need to be added individually , and can be swapped out with i.e. color bulbs if we want colors in the spots instead.
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### Author:  [@Taos\_Artwork](https://community.homey.app/u/Taos_Artwork)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2021, 7:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/379 "2021-01-07T19:47:12Z")
I have a problem with adding a Philips Hue GU10 variable white spot. Could it be that it doesn’t work within the app, or am I using it incorrectly?I have reset the lamp in the meantime, and they do connect. But they only appear as an unknown Zigbee device. So I can turn them on or off, but I can’t choose a colour temperature.
Can you guys tell me what is wrong?
Homey PRO Early 2019
Homey version 4.2.0
Homey App version 6.2.0.652
Philips Hue ZigBee app 2.0.18
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### Author:  [@Hansvdb](https://community.homey.app/u/Hansvdb)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2021, 6:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/380 "2021-01-13T18:14:42Z")
Hi,
Just added my Ensis Pendant Black. It’s detected as a generic Zigbee device.
Perhaps there is a difference ID between White and Black.
The Product ID is: 4090330P9\_01 & 4090330P9\_02
Device ID: 269
Profile ID:260
Can this device be added to the app?
To my understanding all the feature are similar the Ensis White model.
Regards, Hans
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### Author:  [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2021, 11:52pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/381 "2021-01-13T23:52:05Z")
> [@Hansvdb](#):
>
> 4090330P9\_01
Hi @Hansvdb, you are correct… it’s just the ID that needs to be added. I have added this to the firmware 5 version of the app and will update the firmware 4.2 version in a while (saving up updates to have them all at the same time as I need to remove the firmware 5 version during update of the firmware 4.2 app).
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### Author:  [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2021, 11:54pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/382 "2021-01-13T23:54:19Z")
> [@Taos\_Artwork](#):
>
> GU10 variable white spot
Hi @Taos_Artwork, your unit is not supported yet. Can you please add a link (url) to philips website (or a vendor) where I can see the unit (to make sure I add it correctly)?
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### Author:  [@Taos\_Artwork](https://community.homey.app/u/Taos_Artwork)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2021, 7:29am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/383 "2021-01-14T07:29:50Z")
Hi! This is the set i got:
[https://www.philips-hue.com/nl-be/p/hue-white-ambiance-adore-bathroom-inbouwdownlight/3417611P6](https://www.philips-hue.com/nl-be/p/hue-white-ambiance-adore-bathroom-inbouwdownlight/3417611P6)
And also this one on the celling:
[https://www.philips-hue.com/nl-be/p/hue-white-ambiance-adore-bathroom-plafondlamp/3418411P6](https://www.philips-hue.com/nl-be/p/hue-white-ambiance-adore-bathroom-plafondlamp/3418411P6)
Thnx!!
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