# \[APP\]\[Pro\] Philips Hue Zigbee (Without the bridge)

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734>\
**Category:** Apps\
**Tags:** app, zigbee\
**Created:** [May 12, 2020, 11:53am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734 "2020-05-12T11:53:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 14

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**Author:** ![rvdeijk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rvdeijk/32/22542_2.png) [@rvdeijk](https://community.homey.app/u/rvdeijk)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/284 "2020-12-02T18:47:18Z")

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> [@johan\_bendz](#):
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> New devices only added to Test version for Homey Firmware 5

@johan_bendz Can you add in your first post the Filament G125 to this list. Prevents some questions.

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**Author:** ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 7:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/285 "2020-12-02T19:37:15Z")

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Thanks @rvdeijk, there was a number of devices that needed to be added to that list 👍

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**Author:** ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 7:45pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/286 "2020-12-02T19:45:16Z")

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Hi @Pieter_Tack, that’s a new product ID. I just added it to the code and it will be supported in next update.

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**Author:** ![Pieter\_Tack](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/pieter_tack/32/31440_2.png) [@Pieter\_Tack](https://community.homey.app/u/Pieter_Tack)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2020, 3:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/287 "2020-12-03T15:35:39Z")

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Many thanks!  
Is there a way in which I can receive an automated message if the app is updated? I cannot seem to find an RSS or subscription button or anything.

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**Author:** ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2020, 10:03pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/288 "2020-12-03T22:03:19Z")

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I can post here when I update. If you click the bookmark on my top post you will get notified when it changes.

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**Author:** ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 11:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/289 "2020-12-04T23:27:48Z")

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New version of the app: v2.0.13  
Added support for:

- Calla Outdoor Tall Path Light
- Appear Outdoor Wall Light (Upper and Lower)

And added a few product ID’s to already supported devices.

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**Author:** ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 11:31am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/290 "2020-12-06T11:31:44Z")

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Hi everyone.  
I have an early Christmas gift for all firmware 4.2 users.

As a special update I will for a short while remove the Test version (firmware 5 version) of the app from the App Store and update the Live version (firmware 4 version) with new product Id’s and new devices.

Before I can do that I would however need a bit of help to gather device and profile id’s for some products.

Bulb 1600 Lumen White - LWA009  
Bulb E14 Candle White Ambiance (BT) - LTE002  
Calla Outdoor Tall Path Light - LCF005  
Runner Single Spotlight - 5309031P9  
Appear Outdoor Wall - 1746330P7  
Econic Hanging Wall light - 1744030P7

The information I need is:  
deviceId:  
profileId:

Thanks in advance! 🎅

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**Author:** ![rvdeijk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rvdeijk/32/22542_2.png) [@rvdeijk](https://community.homey.app/u/rvdeijk)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 1:39pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/291 "2020-12-06T13:39:06Z")

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That’s a nice Christmas surprise! Then I would have full control of the Filament G125 inside homey instead of just the on/off ability 😄

Can’t help you though with the devices you are asking. 🙁

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**Author:** ![Joka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Joka](https://community.homey.app/u/Joka)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 3:17pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/292 "2020-12-06T15:17:12Z")

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Hi Johan, would it be possible to branch down this feature to 4.2 too?

> <https://github.com/JohanBendz/com.philips.hue.zigbee/issues/190>
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> Hello,
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> I know this has been brought up before https://github.com/sebbebebbe/c…om.philips.hue.zigbee/issues/101#issue-457106571
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> but just wondering if there is any chance we can somehow look at this again to add the possibility for adjustment ?
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> I was testing notifications during the day when motion was detected and it seems that just the sunlight was making it trigger. 
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> Not sure how hard this would be to add the setting if there is anything i can do to help i am happy to try.

THX in advance!

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**Author:** ![Tregobad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tregobad/32/33513_2.png) [@Tregobad](https://community.homey.app/u/Tregobad)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 7:01pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/293 "2020-12-09T19:01:06Z")

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Hi @johan_bendz,

The motion sensor updates its light sensor by default when motion is detected (in the original Hue Bridge).  
Since I need a light-dependent control, I lack this functionality with the motion sensor.  
The lux value is not updated together with a movement.

I can influence the polling of lux and temperature in the “Advanced Settings”, but somehow it doesn’t seem to work. Is there still a problem with the sensor query, or how do I have to change the setting for a simultaneous update of the movement + brightness?  
Do you know another way the brightness at the same time! together with a movement?

Thank you for your time and the fantastic app.

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**Author:** ![Pim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/pim/32/8003_2.png) [@Pim](https://community.homey.app/u/Pim)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 10:35am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/294 "2020-12-10T10:35:00Z")

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Hi Johan,

Could you add the color loop as well, so nice to use during Christmas 😉  
Keep up the good work!

Many thanks!!

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**Author:** ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 10:38am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/295 "2020-12-10T10:38:06Z")

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Hi @Tregobad, the device have commands and attributes. A command is when motion occur, then the device sends a command to Homey telling Homey to act on it, eg. trigger a card. An attribute is updated on every change but only reported to Homey according to set parameters, eg. when x change have occurred, at least every x minute etc. I will have a look at what I can do to have it report an attribute when a command is sent. It’s not by default done that way.

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**Author:** ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 10:40am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/296 "2020-12-10T10:40:19Z")

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Hi @Joka. Sorry, no… I will not add any such code to the 4.2 version. Let’s hope firmware 5 is around the corner.

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**Author:** ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 10:44am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/297 "2020-12-10T10:44:10Z")

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Hi @Pim, I might… no promises! 🤔  
What I do have in releaseplan right now is support for power outage behavior, eg. what the lights should do when power has been restored. (off, on with defaults or last status) 🤫

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**Author:** ![Pim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/pim/32/8003_2.png) [@Pim](https://community.homey.app/u/Pim)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 12:46pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/298 "2020-12-10T12:46:40Z")

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Take your time Johan, priorities first.

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Tschanun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martin_tschanun/32/30688_2.png) [@Martin\_Tschanun](https://community.homey.app/u/Martin_Tschanun)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 9:03am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/299 "2020-12-12T09:03:30Z")

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Hi @johan_bendz i bought a philips aurelle square but if i connect homey detect it as unknown device. Product ID: 3216231P6 are there different versions? Because in the app i can see those panels . Btw i tried to do a interview but it stop in a timeout. I use Homey 5.0 and the test version of the philips hue zigbee app. Thanks for your help

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**Author:** ![MarcoRuiter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/marcoruiter/32/33528_2.png) [@MarcoRuiter](https://community.homey.app/u/MarcoRuiter)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 7:38pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/300 "2020-12-14T19:38:34Z")

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The .15 update breaks all hue devices

Turn of auto update fast users !!!

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/d/7/d76b621f810eb5858d978c1ddc4ddaa23cadb416.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Tregobad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tregobad/32/33513_2.png) [@Tregobad](https://community.homey.app/u/Tregobad)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 7:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/301 "2020-12-14T19:41:35Z")

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All bulbs are offline, where can i get the last version to overcome the problem?

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**Author:** ![Ricardo\_Nunes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ricardo_nunes/32/30598_2.png) [@Ricardo\_Nunes](https://community.homey.app/u/Ricardo_Nunes)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 7:45pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/302 "2020-12-14T19:45:24Z")

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Auto Update was faster than me 😅  
Same issue here… 🙂

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**Author:** ![Max\_Menther](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/max_menther/32/31562_2.png) [@Max\_Menther](https://community.homey.app/u/Max_Menther)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 7:57pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-philips-hue-zigbee-without-the-bridge/29734/303 "2020-12-14T19:57:49Z")

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Never change a running system:)  
I always switch off auto update when everything works fine

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