# \[App\]\[Pro\] Panasonic Comfort Cloud Alternative (CLI Install only) **URL:** \ **Category:** Apps\ **Created:** [February 1, 2023, 8:42pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-panasonic-comfort-cloud-alternative-cli-install-only/75906 "2023-02-01T20:42:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![SpikeHome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/spikehome/32/9435_2.png) [@SpikeHome](https://community.homey.app/u/SpikeHome)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 11:19am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-panasonic-comfort-cloud-alternative-cli-install-only/75906/22 "2023-03-01T11:19:20Z")
Can i use this for my new comming heatpump type KIT-WC05J3E5 ---
**Author:** ![RuneTun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/runetun/32/17017_2.png) [@RuneTun](https://community.homey.app/u/RuneTun)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 12:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-panasonic-comfort-cloud-alternative-cli-install-only/75906/23 "2023-03-04T12:32:07Z")
Hi, Apologies for the late reply. Looks like the AC unit has a bad Temp sensor. Service dude on the way… ---
**Author:** ![Robert\_Schmidt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robert_schmidt/32/53755_2.png) [@Robert\_Schmidt](https://community.homey.app/u/Robert_Schmidt)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 10:01am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-panasonic-comfort-cloud-alternative-cli-install-only/75906/24 "2023-03-06T10:01:13Z")
I’ve added a Github [issue](https://github.com/ugumba/homey-panasonic-comfort-cloud-alt/issues/6). Edit: I tried the Device Capabilities app again today, and it worked: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/8/b/8b3ac759d119f0df057f745818a4386426a7de97.png) The first times clicking the “Device Class” field, only a text box appears, but a few minutes later it allowed me to select “thermostat” from a dropdown list - I suspect the class list initialization takes a long time in a background, with no visual feedback. I hope this works for you, too - I’m less likely to add dedicated flow cards now, I’m afraid. ---
**Author:** ![Robert\_Schmidt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robert_schmidt/32/53755_2.png) [@Robert\_Schmidt](https://community.homey.app/u/Robert_Schmidt)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 11:41am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-panasonic-comfort-cloud-alternative-cli-install-only/75906/25 "2023-03-06T11:41:07Z")
> [@SpikeHome](#): > > Can i use this for my new comming heatpump type KIT-WC05J3E5 Short answer: Only if the device works with Panasonic’s Comfort Cloud smartphone app. Google brings me to Panasonic’s air-to-water heat pumps, which seem to integrate via [Aquarea Smart Cloud](https://www.aircon.panasonic.eu/GB_en/aquareaplus/aquarea-smart-cloud/) rather than Comfort Cloud. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Mikkelsen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mark_mikkelsen/32/48105_2.png) [@Mark\_Mikkelsen](https://community.homey.app/u/Mark_Mikkelsen)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 7:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-panasonic-comfort-cloud-alternative-cli-install-only/75906/26 "2023-03-10T07:48:13Z")
Mine looks like this after trying to add my air to water ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/d/9/d9e19062d46c74a85128c5895ab4d50054d7b0e7.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![SpikeHome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/spikehome/32/9435_2.png) [@SpikeHome](https://community.homey.app/u/SpikeHome)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 10:58am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-panasonic-comfort-cloud-alternative-cli-install-only/75906/27 "2023-03-10T10:58:56Z")
I know there are cloud solutions like home assistent > **[Panasonic Comfort Cloud](https://community.home-assistant.io/t/panasonic-comfort-cloud/229090)** > > Panasonic Comfort Cloud The Panasonic Comfort Cloud components let’s you control and monitor your Panasonic Comfort Cloud devices. Installation: Can be done in two ways: Using HACS by going to Integrations and searching for Panasonic Comfort... ---
**Author:** ![Robert\_Schmidt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robert_schmidt/32/53755_2.png) [@Robert\_Schmidt](https://community.homey.app/u/Robert_Schmidt)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2023, 6:38pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-panasonic-comfort-cloud-alternative-cli-install-only/75906/28 "2023-03-15T18:38:41Z")
Can you use the [PCC phone app](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.panasonic.ACCsmart) to control it? If so, it might be possible to fix for Homey. At the very least, I should be able to improve that error message. Could you send me the log contents (after trying to add the device)? ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Mikkelsen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mark_mikkelsen/32/48105_2.png) [@Mark\_Mikkelsen](https://community.homey.app/u/Mark_Mikkelsen)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2023, 7:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-panasonic-comfort-cloud-alternative-cli-install-only/75906/29 "2023-03-15T19:11:59Z")
It it pcc or aquarea ? [https://im5.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-5-6b9891cc0f.gif](https://im5.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-5-6b9891cc0f.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Robert\_Schmidt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robert_schmidt/32/53755_2.png) [@Robert\_Schmidt](https://community.homey.app/u/Robert_Schmidt)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2023, 6:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-panasonic-comfort-cloud-alternative-cli-install-only/75906/30 "2023-03-16T06:48:08Z")
> [@Mark\_Mikkelsen](#): > > It it pcc or aquarea ? Are you asking me? This forum topic is about a PCC app for Homey. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Mikkelsen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mark_mikkelsen/32/48105_2.png) [@Mark\_Mikkelsen](https://community.homey.app/u/Mark_Mikkelsen)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2023, 8:14am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-panasonic-comfort-cloud-alternative-cli-install-only/75906/31 "2023-03-16T08:14:49Z")
Yea I’m asking because I use the PCC app on iPhone but inside the app it says aquarea ---
**Author:** ![Robert\_Schmidt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robert_schmidt/32/53755_2.png) [@Robert\_Schmidt](https://community.homey.app/u/Robert_Schmidt)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-panasonic-comfort-cloud-alternative-cli-install-only/75906/32 "2023-03-16T21:42:02Z")
Ok, I found that Aquarea devices do indeed appear in the PCC app. However, the API and service endpoint for controlling them is different. Without access to one, it’s next to impossible (or very, very impractical) for me to consider working on it. There’s a JavaScript package (for Homebridge) [here](https://github.com/Hernas/homebridge-panasonic-heat-pump) which supports Aquarea devices. The way forward would be for someone to extract the authentication and client code, test it (from command line), and reassemble into a Homey app package. My own code should work as decent inspiration for the last part. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Mikkelsen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mark_mikkelsen/32/48105_2.png) [@Mark\_Mikkelsen](https://community.homey.app/u/Mark_Mikkelsen)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2023, 10:42pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-panasonic-comfort-cloud-alternative-cli-install-only/75906/33 "2023-03-16T22:42:34Z")
Thanks for the reply I would love for aquarea to be supported so fingers crossed that somebody is up for the task. I’ll be willing to pay a developer to do this ---
**Author:** ![matrover](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/matrover/32/12112_2.png) [@matrover](https://community.homey.app/u/matrover)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 12:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-panasonic-comfort-cloud-alternative-cli-install-only/75906/34 "2023-03-28T12:05:41Z")
Hi @Robert_Schmidt, this app worked on the Homey Pro 2023 but (i think) since rc65 not anymore. it crashes right after starting it with the error message: Invalid App Origin: undefined im using app ver 1.0.5 is this already reported? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Robert\_Schmidt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robert_schmidt/32/53755_2.png) [@Robert\_Schmidt](https://community.homey.app/u/Robert_Schmidt)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 5:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-panasonic-comfort-cloud-alternative-cli-install-only/75906/35 "2023-03-28T17:15:03Z")
No, first I’ve heard of it - you may be the first to try this app with the new device 🙂. It suspect it has something to do with the fact that the app is installed by HCS, not the official store. The HCS team says on Slack that HCS should not be considered compatible with HP23 yet. ---
**Author:** ![matrover](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/matrover/32/12112_2.png) [@matrover](https://community.homey.app/u/matrover)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2023, 7:47am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-panasonic-comfort-cloud-alternative-cli-install-only/75906/36 "2023-03-29T07:47:47Z")
Ok, i’ll wait patiently then 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_vd\_Linden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arnold_vd_linden/32/19336_2.png) [@Arnold\_vd\_Linden](https://community.homey.app/u/Arnold_vd_Linden)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2023, 7:07am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-panasonic-comfort-cloud-alternative-cli-install-only/75906/37 "2023-05-12T07:07:48Z")
> [@Arnold\_vd\_Linden](#): > > Do you have plans to add more flow cards to it? > > It would be great to have cards to control the: > > - Operation mode (heating or cooling) > - Air Swing > - Fan speed > - Eco mode Is there some development going for this wished flowcharts? ---
**Author:** ![Robert\_Schmidt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robert_schmidt/32/53755_2.png) [@Robert\_Schmidt](https://community.homey.app/u/Robert_Schmidt)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 10:23am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-panasonic-comfort-cloud-alternative-cli-install-only/75906/38 "2023-05-27T10:23:08Z")
> [@Arnold\_vd\_Linden](#): > > Is there some development going for this wished flowcharts? No. As I replied earlier, the same can be accomplished with flow cards from the Device Capabilities app, which I’m happy with, so I’m not spending time on custom flow cards. I’ll happily review pull requests. ---
**Author:** ![Martijn\_C](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_c/32/39993_2.png) [@Martijn\_C](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_C)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 9:27am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-panasonic-comfort-cloud-alternative-cli-install-only/75906/39 "2023-06-14T09:27:39Z")
Hi Robert, I get an error when controlling the AC. See below. Any idea? The flow is only turning on the AC and setting the temperature. That does work though, but the cards give this errors every time. Edit: also when using other cards (Device Capabilities f.e.) this error shows up. ![IMG_2412.PNG](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/1/6/169fc6d7380e92370b984978c27dd000a5f7f153.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![NickM](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/nickm/32/79147_2.png) [@NickM](https://community.homey.app/u/NickM)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 4:31pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-panasonic-comfort-cloud-alternative-cli-install-only/75906/40 "2023-06-18T16:31:55Z")
[Pull request coming your way 🙂](https://github.com/ugumba/homey-panasonic-comfort-cloud-alt/pull/7) ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_vd\_Linden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arnold_vd_linden/32/19336_2.png) [@Arnold\_vd\_Linden](https://community.homey.app/u/Arnold_vd_Linden)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 8:42pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-panasonic-comfort-cloud-alternative-cli-install-only/75906/41 "2023-06-18T20:42:51Z")
I have the same error when starting the airco units on. [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-panasonic-comfort-cloud-alternative-cli-install-only/75906.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-panasonic-comfort-cloud-alternative-cli-install-only/75906.md?page=3)