# \[APP\]\[Pro\] Location and Presence (Owntracks)

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-location-and-presence-owntracks/5126>\
**Category:** Apps\
**Tags:** app, tools, presence, howto\
**Created:** [December 8, 2018, 6:56pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-location-and-presence-owntracks/5126 "2018-12-08T18:56:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 6

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**Author:** ![Menne\_Talsma](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/menne_talsma/32/8752_2.png) [@Menne\_Talsma](https://community.homey.app/u/Menne_Talsma)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 1:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-location-and-presence-owntracks/5126/108 "2019-05-06T13:02:05Z")

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Thx,

Much obliged

I’ll get to it next week I hope.

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**Author:** ![ChrisBoer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/chrisboer/32/1252_2.png) [@ChrisBoer](https://community.homey.app/u/ChrisBoer)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 10:20am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-location-and-presence-owntracks/5126/109 "2019-06-20T10:20:57Z")

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And does it work now ?

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**Author:** ![Menne\_Talsma](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/menne_talsma/32/8752_2.png) [@Menne\_Talsma](https://community.homey.app/u/Menne_Talsma)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 1:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-location-and-presence-owntracks/5126/110 "2019-06-20T13:16:00Z")

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haven’t gotten to it, been busy programming all my stuff (devices, logica and flows) in my new Homey-Pro. (there is no backup & restore app)

the Homey built-in location and presence function works perfectly on Homey Pro so I don’t really need Owntracks and a Mqtt-broker anymore… Life is simple again 🙂

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**Author:** ![Antonio\_b10](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/antonio_b10/32/14141_2.png) [@Antonio\_b10](https://community.homey.app/u/Antonio_b10)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 10:26am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-location-and-presence-owntracks/5126/111 "2019-08-03T10:26:33Z")

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Give me advice. I create a token on Homey app Location and Presence. Add to Owntracks. But in the log I see errors. Token is not found. What I do wrong?

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**Author:** ![ChrisBoer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/chrisboer/32/1252_2.png) [@ChrisBoer](https://community.homey.app/u/ChrisBoer)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 2:40pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-location-and-presence-owntracks/5126/112 "2019-09-11T14:40:17Z")

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I don’t use a token with Location and Presence as I use a private MQTT Server instance.

So I can not help you with any support on this.

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**Author:** ![Matsaki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/matsaki/32/13452_2.png) [@Matsaki](https://community.homey.app/u/Matsaki)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 5:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-location-and-presence-owntracks/5126/113 "2019-09-14T17:47:12Z")

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Where do I find Athom Cloud ID?

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**Author:** ![scanno](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/scanno/32/8358_2.png) [@scanno](https://community.homey.app/u/scanno)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 5:59pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-location-and-presence-owntracks/5126/114 "2019-09-14T17:59:32Z")

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In the Homey app? Settings -\> general?

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**Author:** ![Matsaki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/matsaki/32/13452_2.png) [@Matsaki](https://community.homey.app/u/Matsaki)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 1:43pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-location-and-presence-owntracks/5126/115 "2019-09-15T13:43:26Z")

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Thanks! I have a Iphone and in my Owntracks app I get a 401 error. I don’t have Preferences/Configuration and edit in my app. Just “i” and settings.

What am I missing out on?

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**Author:** ![scanno](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/scanno/32/8358_2.png) [@scanno](https://community.homey.app/u/scanno)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 2:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-location-and-presence-owntracks/5126/116 "2019-09-15T14:24:37Z")

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With Homey app i mean the general app from Athom. There you can find the CloudID. That ID should be used in the URL you should enter in the owntracks app on your phone

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**Author:** ![Matsaki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/matsaki/32/13452_2.png) [@Matsaki](https://community.homey.app/u/Matsaki)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 2:54pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-location-and-presence-owntracks/5126/117 "2019-09-15T14:54:39Z")

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Yes I got that, but in the Owntracks I get a 401 error.

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**Author:** ![Matsaki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/matsaki/32/13452_2.png) [@Matsaki](https://community.homey.app/u/Matsaki)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-location-and-presence-owntracks/5126/118 "2019-09-15T17:44:17Z")

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My setup:

 ![IMG_0531](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/8/873830a5e30842d0f1648d874e5a12d07d427b90.jpeg)

 ![IMG_0530](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/f/f4a52afec1dc38ca79fb159c01e96eef94fa93d0.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![PO\_Blomstrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/po_blomstrand/32/12476_2.png) [@PO\_Blomstrand](https://community.homey.app/u/PO_Blomstrand)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 5:55pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-location-and-presence-owntracks/5126/119 "2019-09-15T17:55:49Z")

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Try disabeling authentication!

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**Author:** ![scanno](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/scanno/32/8358_2.png) [@scanno](https://community.homey.app/u/scanno)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 6:23pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-location-and-presence-owntracks/5126/120 "2019-09-15T18:23:06Z")

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Yup authentication should be disabled. Authentication is done with the token you generate in the location & presence app on homey.

The authentication is useless because you connect to the athom cloud and the cloud just relays your request to your homey based on the cloudid.

HTTP authentication is not enabled and if used / enabled it will cause problems.

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**Author:** ![scanno](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/scanno/32/8358_2.png) [@scanno](https://community.homey.app/u/scanno)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 6:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-location-and-presence-owntracks/5126/121 "2019-09-15T18:25:55Z")

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> [@scanno](#):
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> In case you get a 401 error, then you need to adjust a small setting. The 401 is generated because the Owntracks app on your phone (at least on Android) expects HTTP authentication. Since it is not used on Homey that setting needs to be disabled.

@Matsaki it says in the first post 🙂

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**Author:** ![Matsaki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/matsaki/32/13452_2.png) [@Matsaki](https://community.homey.app/u/Matsaki)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-location-and-presence-owntracks/5126/122 "2019-09-15T20:34:17Z")

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So I turn Authentication off? My Owntracks then say “ide”. Does that mean that Owntracks is running correct?

_(Your help is very appreciated)_

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**Author:** ![PO\_Blomstrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/po_blomstrand/32/12476_2.png) [@PO\_Blomstrand](https://community.homey.app/u/PO_Blomstrand)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 8:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-location-and-presence-owntracks/5126/123 "2019-09-15T20:36:33Z")

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If it says “idle” - yes, then you are connected.

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**Author:** ![Matsaki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/matsaki/32/13452_2.png) [@Matsaki](https://community.homey.app/u/Matsaki)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 8:57am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-location-and-presence-owntracks/5126/124 "2019-09-16T08:57:55Z")

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It seems to me like Owntracks works in Location and Presence, but the Geofences is not working?

 ![IMG_0532](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/a/a64f463b958ad6dbd686fd18dfbd43b854aac11b.jpeg)

 ![IMG_0533](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/0/03ba31b455e3bef6792f068649f1f141917776bc.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![scanno](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/scanno/32/8358_2.png) [@scanno](https://community.homey.app/u/scanno)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 9:22am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-location-and-presence-owntracks/5126/125 "2019-09-16T09:22:56Z")

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How did you create your geofences?  
You should create them in the own tracks app on your phone. The fences should be created automatically then in the location & presence app on Homey (including lon/lat/radius)

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**Author:** ![PO\_Blomstrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/po_blomstrand/32/12476_2.png) [@PO\_Blomstrand](https://community.homey.app/u/PO_Blomstrand)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 10:13am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-location-and-presence-owntracks/5126/126 "2019-09-16T10:13:31Z")

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As I told you on FB, you have to set a radius to your geofence!!

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**Author:** ![Matsaki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/matsaki/32/13452_2.png) [@Matsaki](https://community.homey.app/u/Matsaki)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 10:18am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-location-and-presence-owntracks/5126/127 "2019-09-16T10:18:27Z")

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Hi PO. Nice to see you here too. 🙂 I have the default radius of 150 meters set in Location and Presence. In Owntracks it’s set to 150 there too.

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