# \[APP\]\[Pro\] \< group \> (3.2.4 - Stable)

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168>\
**Category:** Apps\
**Tags:** app, homey-pro\
**Created:** [October 23, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168 "2018-10-23T16:16:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 51

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**Author:** ![Henrik\_Johnsson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henrik_johnsson/32/13707_2.png) [@Henrik\_Johnsson](https://community.homey.app/u/Henrik_Johnsson)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/1028 "2024-09-04T19:15:23Z")

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Did you try to restart the group app?

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**Author:** ![Majae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/majae/32/68043_2.png) [@Majae](https://community.homey.app/u/Majae)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 10:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/1029 "2024-09-04T22:16:40Z")

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Well…

I´m a bit ashamed, but yes, that did the job 😅  
Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Daniel\_Lofgren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daniel_lofgren/32/1075_2.png) [@Daniel\_Lofgren](https://community.homey.app/u/Daniel_Lofgren)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 6:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/1030 "2024-09-17T18:51:22Z")

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I have the same problem, gave up found no solution. Did you get any response?

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**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 8:29pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/1031 "2024-09-17T20:29:06Z")

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Maybe you can start utilizing Device Capabilities - [Device Capabilities | Homey](https://homey.app/en-us/app/nl.qluster-it.DeviceCapabilities/Device-Capabilities/test)

It also offers “grouping” capabilities and much much much more.

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**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 11:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/1032 "2024-09-17T23:35:02Z")

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I recently had an issue with the group app, where it was not able to control a light, every time I added it to the group … it removed itself immediately.

It ended up being an issue with the light and I had to remove and re-add it.

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@Sharkys Device Capabilities is a great app and very useful, (I use it myself even). **HOWEVER** Athom are working on native grouping, I wouldn’t be surprised if it is released with their dashboard (which is close to testing this month).

If you can wait … wait to see if their native solution fixes your issues - i’ve been waiting for them to do groups for a very long time (obviously I like the feature). And I am excited to see what they come up with, hopefully the tens of thousands of people who use the group app will be able to have one less app soon.

_(Disclaimer, I suspect merged, union and fused groups might be still required - but that is the minority of users)._

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**Author:** ![Daniel\_Lofgren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daniel_lofgren/32/1075_2.png) [@Daniel\_Lofgren](https://community.homey.app/u/Daniel_Lofgren)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 4:20am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/1033 "2024-09-18T04:20:51Z")

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Did not know they’re where working on native grouping, but at the same time I wondered why it not already exist as it does in other automation systems.

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**Author:** ![M\_a\_r\_c\_o](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/m_a_r_c_o/32/146_2.png) [@M\_a\_r\_c\_o](https://community.homey.app/u/M_a_r_c_o)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 5:34am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/1034 "2024-09-18T05:34:30Z")

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I have had issues with groups. My solution was to create a new group, adjust flows to new group, delete old group and rename new group to old group name.

Had todo with the version of a group device, issues with older group device version ( I think/suspected).

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**Author:** ![Bernd\_Meints](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bernd_meints/32/57658_2.png) [@Bernd\_Meints](https://community.homey.app/u/Bernd_Meints)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 8:53pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/1035 "2024-10-07T20:53:32Z")

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Since The latest Homey Update groups are no longer working. I have two groups both of 3 Lamp. Since the update in both Groups, 1 of the 3 lamps It’s no longer working when I tried to control them with the group app

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**Author:** ![Henrik\_Johnsson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henrik_johnsson/32/13707_2.png) [@Henrik\_Johnsson](https://community.homey.app/u/Henrik_Johnsson)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 10:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/1036 "2024-10-07T22:15:07Z")

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I pretty much always have to restart the Group app after a Homey firmware update to restore function.

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**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 7:26pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/1037 "2024-10-08T19:26:52Z")

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I don’t have this problem (HP23 latest firmware)

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**Author:** ![Bernd\_Meints](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bernd_meints/32/57658_2.png) [@Bernd\_Meints](https://community.homey.app/u/Bernd_Meints)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 8:17pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/1038 "2024-10-08T20:17:43Z")

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Restarting The group App Solved my problem

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**Author:** ![Paxman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/paxman/32/128050_2.png) [@Paxman](https://community.homey.app/u/Paxman)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 9:38am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/1039 "2024-10-17T09:38:03Z")

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> [@Jamie](#):
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> **HOWEVER** Athom are working on native grouping,

Any news about this?

I’m getting tired of lamps getting ticket off by themselves in the app. My lighting automation have been working great for several years, but now some lights don’t react on commands randomly.

When I do a “Repair” in the app I can see that the unresponsive lights are no longer ticked in the list. I mark them again and it works for a couple of days until the same thing repeats itself. This is not OK in my view.

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**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 1:00pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/1040 "2024-10-17T13:00:02Z")

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Hey @Paxman you realise I don’t work at / for Athom right?

I’m sorry that it’s “not ok in your view” but I’m not really sure what your expecting from me …

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**Author:** ![Paxman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/paxman/32/128050_2.png) [@Paxman](https://community.homey.app/u/Paxman)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 4:58pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/1041 "2024-10-17T16:58:03Z")

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> [@Jamie](#):
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> Hey @Paxman you realise I don’t work at / for Athom right?

Absolutely! But you did mention native grouping and I simply asked if you (or anyone else reading this thread) have heard anything new about it.

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> I’m sorry that it’s “not ok in your view” but I’m not really sure what your expecting from me …

I expect an app not to remove things that I have told it to remember. If my phone lost numbers in my phonebook now and then I would not be OK with that either. 😉

Have you looked into this issue or is development halted due to the expected native grouping?

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**Author:** ![Henrik\_Johnsson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henrik_johnsson/32/13707_2.png) [@Henrik\_Johnsson](https://community.homey.app/u/Henrik_Johnsson)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 8:53pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/1042 "2024-10-17T20:53:22Z")

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> [@Paxman](#):
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> When I do a “Repair” in the app I can see that the unresponsive lights are no longer ticked in the list. I mark them again and it works for a couple of days until the same thing repeats itself.

I know I’m repeating myself, but try restarting the app instead of repairing. Much faster, and in my experience the list of grouped devices is restored.

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**Author:** ![Paxman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/paxman/32/128050_2.png) [@Paxman](https://community.homey.app/u/Paxman)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 6:44am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/1043 "2024-10-18T06:44:42Z")

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> [@Henrik\_Johnsson](#):
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> I know I’m repeating myself, but try restarting the app instead of repairing. Much faster, and in my experience the list of grouped devices is restored.

I’ll try that next time. 👍

But that’s only a temporary fix right? The bug is still there?

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**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 7:41am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/1044 "2024-10-18T07:41:02Z")

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> [@Paxman](#):
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> If my phone lost numbers in my phonebook now and then I would not be OK with that either.

That would entirely depend on where I got my phonebook from? If I paid apple $1000 then I would start throwing around messages like “this is not good enough”, maybe if I had paid $50 I would be asking when to expect it to be fixed.

But if it was a free app which someone donates their time to, out of the goodness of their heart. Personally I would be nice and see if they would do me a favour by looking into it…

But you do you, do what you want and see what works.

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**Author:** ![Henrik\_Johnsson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henrik_johnsson/32/13707_2.png) [@Henrik\_Johnsson](https://community.homey.app/u/Henrik_Johnsson)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 7:45am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/1045 "2024-10-18T07:45:56Z")

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> [@Paxman](#):
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> But that’s only a temporary fix right?

It’s not a permanent solution, only a quicker recovery for this particular problem.  
Nowadays I mostly use zones to control lights, only have two groups and use them mostly to monitor which lights are on, but apart from after firmware upgrades I don’t encounter the problem very often.

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**Author:** ![Paxman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/paxman/32/128050_2.png) [@Paxman](https://community.homey.app/u/Paxman)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 7:46am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/1046 "2024-10-18T07:46:49Z")

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Sorry if I offended you Jamie…that was not my intention at all. I won’t report any more bugs in your app.

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**Author:** ![Marcelo\_Leite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/marcelo_leite/32/79656_2.png) [@Marcelo\_Leite](https://community.homey.app/u/Marcelo_Leite)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 9:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/1047 "2024-10-19T21:24:32Z")

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I have the same problem.

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