# \[APP\]\[Pro\] \< group \> (3.2.4 - Stable)

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168>\
**Category:** Apps\
**Tags:** app, homey-pro\
**Created:** [October 23, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168 "2018-10-23T16:16:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![fsw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fsw/32/5831_2.png) [@fsw](https://community.homey.app/u/fsw)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 4:42pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/706 "2023-03-31T16:42:20Z")

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If there’s anything I can do to help. Let me know

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**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 2:09am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/707 "2023-04-01T02:09:15Z")

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I added my blinds to a group, but the group worked fine? Sorry I can seem to replicate the issue with the blinds.

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**Author:** ![Joka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Joka](https://community.homey.app/u/Joka)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 7:40am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/708 "2023-04-01T07:40:58Z")

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I recreated all my groups (blinds, lights, etc.) with v3.1.15

Blinds and lights work again without any problems after recreation.

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**Author:** ![Tobias\_Pink](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tobias_pink/32/68357_2.png) [@Tobias\_Pink](https://community.homey.app/u/Tobias_Pink)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 6:10pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/709 "2023-04-02T18:10:19Z")

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Hi is there a way to control the tilt of my Venetian blinds group within a flow? In the group I could make changes to the tilt, but within a flows I could only set the position and not the tilt.

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**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 6:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/710 "2023-04-02T18:32:17Z")

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Yes, have the same, already reported few days back…

> [@\[APP\]\[Pro\] \< group \> (3.2.4 - Stable)](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-1-5-stable/3168/609):
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> Sure, do you mean diag.log right after creating new group? Diag b9c6c2f9-5507-4477-b025-35ab360a0a62 Just maybe to better explain - newly created device has both capabilities but not actions card for tilt… Do we need to recreate newly created groups with previous version ? Seems several groups got broken after update… Basically luminance, motion, contact groups are off + one I created to join Luminance… 2338684f-a09…

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**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 2:28am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/711 "2023-04-03T02:28:58Z")

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So I don’t create any code for flows at all, that’s all handled by honey.

Ie. I say the device can turn on/off and by default the on/off flows are added by the system.

What is a window tilt? Which devices are your grouping? What type of device is it(blind, covering etc) can you confirm that the capability exists in the device but is only missing from the flows?

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**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 2:30am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/712 "2023-04-03T02:30:49Z")

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Are you sure there are flows for tiling up and down … what do they even look like? Flow to tilt up for 4 seconds?

Why do you need it if you have the ability to set the tilt?

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**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 5:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/713 "2023-04-03T05:48:41Z")

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> [@Jamie](#):
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> that’s all handled by honey.

It’s possible Homey/API? is buggy 😉 It wouldn’t be first case ever, right.

> [@Jamie](#):
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> What is a window tilt?

It’s Windows Coverings TILT - eg. provided by Roller shutter from Fibaro - [Fibaro App for Homey | Homey](https://homey.app/en-us/app/com.fibaro/Fibaro/)

 ![obrazek](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/8/787c56dfcc11ea2ebe4b28f72b57ec520e4d3b3e.png)

> [@Jamie](#):
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> Which devices are your grouping?

Roller Shutter 3

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> What type of device is it(blind, covering etc)

It is set to Blinds

> [@Jamie](#):
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> can you confirm that the capability exists in the device but is only missing from the flows

I can set TILT via Flows for that particular device and I can set TILT via the device instance itself - but the Flow for that particular device type do not exists

 ![obrazek](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/9/8/98894be1fbfaa6f25efd586fcee38e77135e93cf.png)

> [@Jamie](#):
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> Are you sure there are flows for tiling up and down … what do they even look like? Flow to tilt up for 4 seconds?

And yes, TILT flow do exists for the device being grouped (Fibaro) - see first screenshot. The timing is managed by the FIbaro device itself - it know the internal timings from the calibration of particular Roller shutter - so basically from Groups/App perspective it’s the same like setting Position, just it’s Tilt position.

Hopefully I explained it somehow better, let me know if some additional details are required, happy to provide them.

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**Author:** ![pmeester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/pmeester/32/17275_2.png) [@pmeester](https://community.homey.app/u/pmeester)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 7:32am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/714 "2023-04-03T07:32:25Z")

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+1, the edit group option is not there anymore.

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**Author:** ![RonnyW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronnyw/32/10879_2.png) [@RonnyW](https://community.homey.app/u/RonnyW)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 7:46am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/715 "2023-04-03T07:46:23Z")

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@Jamie  
Tilt level is set with capabilities  
windowcoverings\_tilt\_up (full up)  
windowcoverings\_tilt\_down (full down)  
windowcoverings\_tilt\_set (set a percentage position via slider control)

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**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 7:58am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/716 "2023-04-03T07:58:11Z")

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If you read along, you will see it’s not YET implemented.

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**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 8:00am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/717 "2023-04-03T08:00:09Z")

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> [@Sharkys](#):
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> It’s Windows Coverings TILT - eg. provided by Roller shutter from Fibaro - [Fibaro App for Homey | Homey](https://homey.app/en-us/app/com.fibaro/Fibaro/)

These are the capabilities set in the app.json for a blinds group :

“capabilities”: [  
“onoff”,  
“dim”,  
“measure\_battery”,  
“windowcoverings\_state”,  
“windowcoverings\_tilt\_up”,  
“windowcoverings\_tilt\_down”,  
“windowcoverings\_tilt\_set”,  
“windowcoverings\_closed”,  
“windowcoverings\_set”  
],

tilt up, tilt down and tilt set are all there, it could be a n issue with homey. Does the same problem occur when you create the group as a united group?

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**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 9:08am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/718 "2023-04-03T09:08:31Z")

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> [@Jamie](#):
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> Does the same problem occur when you create the group as a united group?

Yes, it does - already tested that before…and now I tested again - with device called “United group” - diag. 2f666705-7b99-4bba-bc23-ed16374f3fe6

Btw Jamie maybe just to be sure - I reported this problem maybe 01/2022, so maybe it’s really somewhere deep in SDK… it’s for sure not connected to the rewrite…

> [@\[APP\]\[Pro\] \< group \> (3.2.4 - Stable)](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-1-5-stable/3168/456):
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> Guys, anyone would know, why I can’t change TILT, when device actually does support it ? Do I miss something ? [obrazek] (you can see both position and tilt) [obrazek] (only position can be adjusted) Also in group settings, the TILT value is missing / nothing can’t be selected… [obrazek] Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 11:01am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/719 "2023-04-03T11:01:29Z")

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It looks like an issue with homey / deep SDK.

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**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 11:54am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/720 "2023-04-03T11:54:27Z")

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I can try to create issue in [Issues · athombv/homey-apps-sdk-issues · GitHub](https://github.com/athombv/homey-apps-sdk-issues/issues) but I’m not sure I will describe it correctly as I don’t know which methods are used by your app… but anyway, for me I find a way and not using Group for TILT, even I would like to 😉

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**Author:** ![Bert\_Wissink](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bert_wissink/32/30075_2.png) [@Bert\_Wissink](https://community.homey.app/u/Bert_Wissink)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 9:13am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/721 "2023-04-07T09:13:30Z")

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Hi Jamie

Your changelog suggests version 3.2.2 is available, but the latest version in the Appstore is version 3.1.5. Are those others not available yet?

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**Author:** ![Glenn\_Seegers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/glenn_seegers/32/8353_2.png) [@Glenn\_Seegers](https://community.homey.app/u/Glenn_Seegers)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 10:22am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/722 "2023-04-07T10:22:55Z")

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> **[\< groep \>](https://homey.app/nl-nl/app/com.swttt.devicegroups/&lt;-groep-&gt;/)**
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> Maakt het mogelijk om apparaten te groeperen, waardoor controle en rapportage van alle apparaten binnen een groep mogelijk is.

You have to put “test” at the end of the link

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**Author:** ![RonnyW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronnyw/32/10879_2.png) [@RonnyW](https://community.homey.app/u/RonnyW)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 10:24am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/723 "2023-04-07T10:24:03Z")

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Check the changelog in the app store. Perhaps this is the reason:

 ![grafik](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/e/c/ec69d58b34133c1ed20b38841c9bd4a93e654067.png)

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**Author:** ![Bert\_Wissink](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bert_wissink/32/30075_2.png) [@Bert\_Wissink](https://community.homey.app/u/Bert_Wissink)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 12:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/724 "2023-04-07T12:49:47Z")

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Sorry typo. Using version 3.1.15 (not 3.1.5).

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**Author:** ![RonnyW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronnyw/32/10879_2.png) [@RonnyW](https://community.homey.app/u/RonnyW)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 1:17pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/725 "2023-04-07T13:17:39Z")

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It seems 3.1.15 ist the lastest stable/live version.  
Newer version are still test/beta versions.  
To try you can check the changelog in app store, then click on “test” to get the lastest test version. Then hit ‘install’

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