# \[APP\]\[Pro\] \< group \> (3.2.4 - Stable) **URL:** \ **Category:** Apps\ **Tags:** app, homey-pro\ **Created:** [October 23, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168 "2018-10-23T16:16:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 1:30am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/604 "2023-03-23T01:30:39Z")
New test version 3.0.10 : > **[\< group \>](https://homey.app/en-us/app/com.swttt.devicegroups/<-group->/)** > > Makes it possible to group devices allowing control and reporting of all devices within a group. - Adds additional sensors - Virtual Classes will now be displayed as an option when creating a group. (ie. if you have a socket which is set to light - it can now be grouped as part of the “light” driver". Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2023, 10:56am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/605 "2023-03-26T10:56:08Z")
Hi @Jamie , now when I was repairing my groups as some of devices left network, I realized that the TILT function is still not available for Blinds Group, only Position - action card. Is that something you will maybe include in some of the next releases ? ---
**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2023, 1:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/606 "2023-03-26T13:02:52Z")
Are you able to send me a diagnostic report of the pairing? The blinds have the following capabilities ```auto "onoff", "dim", "measure_battery", "windowcoverings_state", "windowcoverings_tilt_up", "windowcoverings_tilt_down", "windowcoverings_tilt_set", "windowcoverings_closed", "windowcoverings_set" ``` I know it may look odd that it has dim, but back in the ‘old days’ some blinds were created using that before the windowcoverings existed. ---
**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2023, 2:18pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/607 "2023-03-26T14:18:13Z")
New version of the group app. : **3.1.0** > **[\< group \>](https://homey.app/en-us/app/com.swttt.devicegroups/<-group->/)** > > Makes it possible to group devices allowing control and reporting of all devices within a group. This version, includes various fixes as well as the new fused groups. Fused groups are a way to ‘fused’ two (or more) devices together, turning multiple items into one. By fusing these two devices together, I can choose which capabilities work on which device. I personally use this app when I have a smart globe attached to a z-wave smart switch. For example, if you were to merge a z-wave wall switch and a smart globe. eg Fibaro Switch & Philips Hue. I could choose any combination including the following : | Capability | Which Device | | --- | --- | | On/Off | Use Fibaro Switch | | Dim | Use Hue Globe | | Colour | Use Hue Globe | | Temperature | Ignore | | Mode | Ignore | | Meter Power | Ignore | | Measure Power | Use Fibaro Switch | The above would give me a new device in homey, which can be controlled via devices, in flows or by Alexa/Siri/Google but when I turn it off, it uses the switch but I can use the same device to dim or change the colour. With our merging them I have to either remember very specific names of what to turn off when using voice control. Or have my voice control either turn off the wrong thing, or let them get out of sync or even turn them both off. * * * This will be the last ‘feature’ release, there will be some clean up, but assuming all testing goes well this is the version which will be released to everyone. * * * Special thanks to @robertklep who helped me with a bug which I was really struggling with. ---
**Author:** ![hyper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/hyper/32/29565_2.png) [@hyper](https://community.homey.app/u/hyper)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2023, 3:22pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/608 "2023-03-26T15:22:27Z")
Hi @Jamie , thanks a million for this. It’s truly a life saver when working with tons of different devices (especially like the combo of sockets and bulbs). I noticed in your original post you mentioned editing an existing group as “next up”. As I haven’t seen any update on that specifically in the release notes, is that something still yet to be done, or should it work and I just need to recreate the group or similar? A small feature request also if I may (inspiration from @robertklep on how devices are exposed/selected in homeykit). It’d be great if the devices would include the room they’re in when defining the groups. Something like “Window lights (living room)” would help a ton in figuring out which one of all the window lights I have I’m looking at in the list 🙂 Thanks again! ---
**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2023, 4:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/609 "2023-03-26T16:41:35Z")
> [@Jamie](#): > > Are you able to send me a diagnostic report of the pairing? Sure, do you mean diag.log right after creating new group? Diag b9c6c2f9-5507-4477-b025-35ab360a0a62 Just maybe to better explain - newly created device has both capabilities but not actions card for tilt… ![SmartSelect_20230326_191613_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/2/f/2f7715e51119b25da1f27a10b09342dd607bc78e.jpeg) ![SmartSelect_20230326_191535_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/2/72d8cfceb039f9c7374b19dce587097001a30161.jpeg) > [@Jamie](#): > > New test version 3.0.10 : Do we need to recreate newly created groups with previous version ? Seems several groups got broken after update… Basically luminance, motion, contact groups are off + one I created to join Luminance… 2338684f-a092-476d-ba52-0d206c1fe1fd _update_ nevermind, going to fix them manually ---
**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 12:55am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/610 "2023-03-27T00:55:05Z")
> [@hyper](#): > > I noticed in your original post you mentioned editing an existing group as “next up”. As I haven’t seen any update on that specifically in the release notes, is that something still yet to be done, or should it work and I just need to recreate the group or similar? You are able to edit and change how values are calculated (or ignored) - the ability to add or remove devices from a group will be released after 3.1.0 - I don’t want to delay getting a working version of the group app out to the people migrating to the new HP23, while I do that work. > [@Sharkys](#): > > Just maybe to better explain - newly created device has both capabilities but not actions card for tilt… Thats really odd, the app uses the built in capabilities of Homey, so if the flows are not coming up, then there might be a problem with Homey. Do all the devices with in the group have this feature, which version of Homey are you using and did this work in the v2 of the group app? > [@hyper](#): > > It’d be great if the devices would include the room they’re in when defining the groups. Something like “Window lights (living room)” Perhaps I could look at that, my convention is to prefix a devices name with the zone name already, and this works really well for my setup up, so its not a high priority for me. But ill add it to the feature request. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/3/f/3facc6b27242202b871aaa19f66b9e4d1298d81c.png) > [@Sharkys](#): > > Do we need to recreate newly created groups with previous version ? Seems several groups got broken after update… No you shouldn’t need to recreate the groups after the update, if they are not working then I have made a mistake in the migration process. Please send me a log of the group not working so I can fix it for others? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![hyper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/hyper/32/29565_2.png) [@hyper](https://community.homey.app/u/hyper)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 5:08am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/611 "2023-03-27T05:08:24Z")
> [@Jamie](#): > > Perhaps I could look at that, my convention is to prefix a devices name with the zone name already, and this works really well for my setup up, so its not a high priority for me. But ill add it to the feature Understood. I considered ghat too but it makes names of devices a bit messy with for example Siri when exposing it all to homekit. I’ll keep my fingers crossed 👆👍 ---
**Author:** ![Adrian\_Rockall](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/adrian_rockall/32/13209_2.png) [@Adrian\_Rockall](https://community.homey.app/u/Adrian_Rockall)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 5:17am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/612 "2023-03-27T05:17:41Z")
Hi Jamie, I’ve sent you a Diagnostics report 92e74b61-63ec-422d-af52-bcd71977708f where some of my devices show Invalid version. Sorry if I have repeated anything already reported but I haven’t been keeping updated on the progress so there were many entries for me to read in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 5:29am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/613 "2023-03-27T05:29:21Z")
> [@Jamie](#): > > Thats really odd, the app uses the built in capabilities of Homey, so if the flows are not coming up, then there might be a problem with Homey. Do all the devices with in the group have this feature, which version of Homey are you using and did this work in the v2 of the group app? Yep, I find it also very odd, because the device itself (meaning Grouped device) shows both options - tilting and positioning, but - the flow action is missing for that group device. Not sure if you see anything in previously shared diag - b9c6c2f9-5507-4477-b025-35ab360a0a62 . Also this happens with both, v2 and even v3 devices and it’s long-term “issue”, I believe maybe since Athom introduced Tilting capability for Fibaro roller shutters ? Unfortunately because of that I can’t use Group for setting tilt, only positions. Let me know if additional details are required. Also I tried different type of grouped devices - Blended and United groups, the results is always same - tilt action card is missing. > [@Jamie](#): > > No you shouldn’t need to recreate the groups after the update Yep, I was expecting that, I have previously shared diag. - 2338684f-a092-476d-ba52-0d206c1fe1fd Anyway, I recreated all of those yesterday and today, after upgrade to 3.1.1 another group got broken, diag. 07e37efc-9163-418c-b510-2a92b124e461 - will fix again manually. One “small” feature request if I may - is it possible to introduce some kind of filtering, when creating groups ? Eg. picking up 2-3 devices from 200 devices is lengthy process… 🙂 Thank you for everything ! ---
**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 7:09am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/614 "2023-03-27T07:09:14Z")
> [@Adrian\_Rockall](#): > > Hi Jamie, I’ve sent you a Diagnostics report 92e74b61-63ec-422d-af52-bcd71977708f where some of my devices show Invalid version. I have taken a **guess** at whats going on based on the diagnostic you sent through, and released a new version of the app, please install and let me know how you go! [\< group \> App for Homey | Homey](https://homey.app/a/com.swttt.devicegroups/test/) * * * > [@hyper](#): > > Understood. I considered ghat too but it makes names of devices a bit messy with for example Siri when exposing it all to homekit. Each to their own, with Alexa if your in the same room as the device, you dont need to say the prefix, however if I am in another room generally I want to say which rooms lights to manage anyway. Either way at the moment it is alphabetical. > [@Sharkys](#): > > One “small” feature request if I may - is it possible to introduce some kind of filtering, when creating groups ? Eg. picking up 2-3 devices from 200 devices is lengthy process… 🙂 This is something I have been thinking about, and agree could be useful it might also help solve your problem @hyper ? ---
**Author:** ![Adrian\_Rockall](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/adrian_rockall/32/13209_2.png) [@Adrian\_Rockall](https://community.homey.app/u/Adrian_Rockall)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 7:30am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/615 "2023-03-27T07:30:41Z")
It appears the fix has worked, all my groups are working now. Thank you for the great support. ---
**Author:** ![Cihad\_Ozturk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/cihad_ozturk/32/72456_2.png) [@Cihad\_Ozturk](https://community.homey.app/u/Cihad_Ozturk)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 10:26am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/616 "2023-03-27T10:26:41Z")
@Jamie Hi, can i get access to the beta im on HP23 thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 12:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/617 "2023-03-27T12:44:29Z")
Just click on any of the links to the test app in this thread. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![hyper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/hyper/32/29565_2.png) [@hyper](https://community.homey.app/u/hyper)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/618 "2023-03-27T17:24:27Z")
> [@Jamie](#): > > This is something I have been thinking about, and agree could be useful it might also help solve your problem @hyper ? If you’re saying the filter would work on room names/zones, then Yes, that should solve it 🥳 ---
**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 2:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/619 "2023-03-28T14:48:47Z")
Latest Test version is up, if everyone could please test this and let me know if there are any issues. This version has been submitted to Athom for approval to go live. > **[\< group \>](https://homey.app/en-us/app/com.swttt.devicegroups/<-group->/)** > > Makes it possible to group devices allowing control and reporting of all devices within a group. Thanks everyone for your help and patience. ---
**Author:** ![Jan-Hendrik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jan-hendrik/32/70925_2.png) [@Jan-Hendrik](https://community.homey.app/u/Jan-Hendrik)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2023, 2:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/620 "2023-03-29T14:06:03Z")
![Screenshot_20230329_160401_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/4/a/4a7e2dd17d8c700093ffc246cea1f442acb3b015.jpeg) I have some problems with one of my groups hope u can help me. ---
**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2023, 2:07pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/621 "2023-03-29T14:07:54Z")
Have you sent diag. report ? ---
**Author:** ![Jan-Hendrik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jan-hendrik/32/70925_2.png) [@Jan-Hendrik](https://community.homey.app/u/Jan-Hendrik)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2023, 2:09pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/622 "2023-03-29T14:09:52Z")
Yes i have sent a diag report ---
**Author:** ![Geir\_Olav\_Valstad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/geir_olav_valstad/32/16995_2.png) [@Geir\_Olav\_Valstad](https://community.homey.app/u/Geir_Olav_Valstad)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2023, 2:23pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/623 "2023-03-29T14:23:54Z")
None of my groups are working now. 3.15 and 8.13 (2019 pro) Any suggestions? [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168.md?page=29) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168.md?page=31)